FKA twigs

ho ho!

maybe yr looking for the fk wits thread instead?

You really can tell ~so much~ about people by the things they think are insults?

One of your favourites being 'fuck off and die in a fire'

Aw, Bob, it really touches my heart that you care enough to stalk my twitter so often. It's lovely to know you care so passionately! Anyone else would find that... I dunno, kinda creepy. But we all know you're fine with how creepy you appear.

"but if you only ever compared Dylan to Guthrie and never ever mentioned e.g. Dylan as compared to Joni Mitchell - or, more saliently, only ever compared Joni Mitchell to Joan Baez, rather than Joni to Dylan"

see, this sort of gets at one of the reasons I don't like the "never compare female artists only to other female artists" canard. why does a comparison have to be to someone like Dylan to be legit? and why is "someone like Dylan" always, well, people like Bob Dylan? basically it's a way to do an end-run around the canon while still reinforcing the canon.

(the counterpart for male artists might address that, but in practice very few people think that way -- virtually the only time this is brought up is when female artists are being discussed.)

I get what you're saying, katherine, in terms of that sneaking suspicion that comparing women to men is done as one of things which is done to imply legitimacy towards the man rather than towards the women (in which case, you can't win either way.) I didn't specifically pick Dylan as the example, just grabbed him out of the previous comment. But I do think it's much more important to do it the other way around - stress the importance of the influence of female artists on male artists - because that's the one that gets left out so much of the time.

But I do still think that it's an attitude riddled with sexism to only compare female artists to female artists AND only compare male artists to male artists, even if you are damned if you don't, as well as damned if you do.

I think women and electronic music is a really interesting topic. But I'm also interested in Donna Haraway's notion of Cyborg-feminism. Grimes, FKA Twigs, The Knife, Tune-yards, even the role-play of Janelle Monae. There are a lot of women making really, really exciting futuristic music at the moment, and a lot of it seems to revolve around gender and sexuality - though obviously not exclusively so. I definitely think there is something to be gained from looking at these artists together. But any discussion of that should probably also include queer-electronica like Baths, Matmos, even something like Owen Pallett (loops like Tune-yards, but, yeah...) and Autre ne Veut (he's not gay, I think, but I've always thought his music sounded gender-breaking, and obviously we're talking about music rather than persons).

Anyways, the way Raccoon Tanuki goes about it is just reductive. What do we gain by discussing whether or not Grimes and Twigs has both been seen without eyebrows? I mean, what the fuck? And also, the fact that there are interesting comparisons to be made doesn't mean the constant uninteresting reductivist grouping together can't be sexist.

Why do we never talk about sex and gender on... oh the Aphex Twin thread? Why is it only women and queers that are the repository for ~thoughts about gender~?

Well, sexism, obviously. But also, women and queers often have more intelligent things to say about these issues. But mostly sexism, I think.

Well all the thoughts about Twigs & gender on this thread seem to be about how she's described and who she's compared to - nothing about gender in the record itself.

I've been trying to figure out why half of this album reminds me lyrically of Robert Smith and failing. I think it's partially my brain trying to connect one thing I like to another thing I like but there's some passing similarity between her narrative voice and Smith's more straightforward, less "I've taken all the drugs" metaphorfests.

Also, after discovering the "pull out the incisor" line I am reminded very strongly of thematic links to Purity Ring, particularly "Fineshrine".

Kim or Fox?

Reminding me now of Channel Orange

I've been trying to figure out why half of this album reminds me lyrically of Robert Smith and failing.

sad/goth in a way that seems "knowing" but not in a way that jeopardizes its effectiveness in a more direct sense

honestly don't see the hype about this one. Yes it's got that whole kate bush meets boards of canada jamming in the basement kinda "vibe" but it ultimately leaves me cold. and the visual aspect, well let's just say annie lennox did it better in the 80s, and i didn't like it then either. despite these criticisms, i'm calling a solid eighter from the pitchfork boys and a possible bnm. looking forward to anthony fantano's take on this one. just my 2 cents..

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I can't get the notion that sex and gender in male-made electronic music is completely ignored out of my head. So true, so interesting, I think. Listening to Man-Machine right now, it's so obviously also about gender-roles. Any interest in a new thread?

Fantano has spoken.

I like it. But I'd also like a '90s Tricky produced Grimes album. Trip Hop never died.

why exactly are we giving a fuck about anything anthony fantano has to say now?

I was curious as to why too. Just responding to missingNO above.

so people are wondering why this cool/alternative artist is dating the posh teen idol from twilight films who is a multi millionaire. she went to a private school, which in England is never anything but hugely expensive and full of elites stuck perpetually eternally in the past while at the same time being in the modern day (vampires), she's spent most her life only associating with rich people (millionaire). the school was also catholic (heavy christian/chastity themes in twilight obvs), she said in her interview she was often looked at as being weird and ugly by people in her school being the only black student (twilight lone outsider theme). he's actually a perfect match. <3

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ILX threads are so predictable now days....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLjiArIJsLc

and it still sounds like tom petty

saw her live this week, impressive. big stage presence, great voice, sounds sounded good and even enhanced live which isn't always the case with electronic acts for example 'Numbers' sounded much, much better live than it does on the album in almost every way. Maybe this was a problem with the recording and engineering on the lp because live it had a lot more energy, fuller booming sound which I think fits it style. Crowd was very receptive and full. It was the Birmingham 'hometown' show she stopped at one point to say this show was emotional for her because her family are from Birmingham and a christmas day anecdote. She also stopped in the middle of the show to sign something for someone at the front, which I'd never seen before. Considering she's so new to this it was also noticable how easily she fills up an hour+ set with good songs that all work well live. There wasn't really any 'down' periods of the set. Considering this is the start of her first ever UK tour she seemed like composed been doing it for longer. There wasn't as much of the crazily impressive dance moves shown on like that yt video of her nY show she was more restrained in her moves but was dancing pretty much all the way through which added energy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99YyWeqHaBo

okay twigs

FKAtofu

if she could dance like that after using google glass imagine how she could have danced after a bowl of frosted flakes

she'd kill tony the tiger with some sugar-fueled crane kicks, obvs.

album is still flames idc how many commercials she appears in.

lol is that the corniest bit of musician-product synergy since

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=motAUqnpaVM

That was a fast sellout.

Damn millenials.

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thnx fka googs works gr8

on that brief note can we just say how jay elecyarmulke is...maybe...not...that...good...and will never be that good even if he puts out the album he's never gonna put out *runs from backpackers at lightspeed*

is brian depalma going to get co-production credit or is this one of those 'curated reblog' type things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar0xLps7WSY

Thought this was really cool

"Give Up" has become the secret heart of the album for me, although I like the contradictory mishearing I first came away with in the chorus more than the actual lyrics:

Just nod your head and give up
I'm not gonna let you give up, babe

New video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jhTiLuGezI

Never noticed how "Video Girl" outros with metronome from "Water Me".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/05/fka-twigs-jimmy-fallon_n_6108212.html

She was on the Jimmy Fallon show the other night, and I just saw her in DC last night at a packed sold out show. Impressive stage presence and dancing and her r'n'b meets Kate Bush vocals with her 3 member band adding electro/hiphop & whatever percussive sounds & more on synths, drums & bass (switching around ). Plus a good light show. Only criticism--Some of the songs sound a bit samey to me though (both melodically and rhythmically)

thats a pretty dope performance - lol i think it might have either broken jimmy fallon's brain or caused him to spontaneously orgasm or both

just been listening to the album for the first time in a couple months and it really holds up

Yeah it was a p good performance

Kinda wish she had used some more backing vocals or even brought along singers

the fabric dancing is amazing, i wonder if it's just a matter of turning fans on and off at different times?

pretty brave as a firs ustv appearence considering it looked like it couldve got wrapped irretrievably around her face at any time

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/nov/30/-sp-fka-twigs-interview-lp1-two-weeks-video-girl-robert-pattinson