was this posted - http://www.vulture.com/2014/09/jessie-ware-and-miguel-sound-wonderful-together.html
― just sayin, Saturday, 20 September 2014 03:23 (eleven years ago)
biggest change on this album imo is the sense of restraint - no full-blooded booming passion à la "wildest moments" or "running", except on the couple of tracks where she goes for the aor disney ballad market. it's a more low-key album which isn't always a bad thing but cumulatively it feels rather...penned in
― lex pretend, Saturday, 20 September 2014 17:45 (eleven years ago)
I just watched her iTunes Festival show and yeah, "Champagne Kisses" is phenomenal, can't wait to hear the studio version
A little disappointed by the other song she co-wrote with Miguel though, "You & I (Forever)" is kind of….uhhh…..
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Saturday, 20 September 2014 17:48 (eleven years ago)
this is grammy material. i predict a solid 8/10 from the pitchfork boys
― cool music buff (missingNO), Saturday, 20 September 2014 17:52 (eleven years ago)
'nother new one https://soundcloud.com/jessieware/jessie-ware-pieces
― uxorious gazumping (monotony), Monday, 6 October 2014 20:47 (eleven years ago)
Is she just going to release the entire thing track by track
― rad het chilly poppers (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 6 October 2014 20:54 (eleven years ago)
or rather... in pieces
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 6 October 2014 21:10 (eleven years ago)
until she gets 110 percent of it out
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 October 2014 21:12 (eleven years ago)
album is out there
― Number None, Thursday, 9 October 2014 22:30 (eleven years ago)
!!!!!!!!
― rad het chilly poppers (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 9 October 2014 23:03 (eleven years ago)
biggest change on this album imo is the sense of restraint
this seems like a weird thing to say since i found her first album pretty but almost objectionably restrained
― I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 9 October 2014 23:23 (eleven years ago)
i predict a backlash considering the album definitely indulges in jessie's clear love for MOR but idgaf tbh. was bopping to "Cruel" on my commute this morning.
― uxorious gazumping (monotony), Friday, 10 October 2014 01:10 (eleven years ago)
am, is "restrained" pejorative? The first album was influenced by a kind of female R&B -- English-inflected to be sure -- that you may or may not embrace.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 October 2014 02:07 (eleven years ago)
clear love for MOR
yow yeah
― j., Friday, 10 October 2014 03:51 (eleven years ago)
i don't like "cruel" at all but i'm basically down with the rest of this
"champagne kisses" is fucking unbelievable
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 10 October 2014 05:28 (eleven years ago)
i'm definitely feeling this in a smoke weed listening to sade way
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Friday, 10 October 2014 13:56 (eleven years ago)
i was feeling oddly defensive about it last night i guess but after a few listens i think this is both kind of slight and kind of a mess
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 10 October 2014 13:59 (eleven years ago)
there are def some odd choices individually and just generally speaking the direction of the album is questionable as has been debated ad nauseam in this thread
there's still some really exceptional moments on this album, esp vocally -- the vocal arrangements of "keep on lying" are great, even the climax of "want your feeling" really opened up for me. obv "champagne kisses" is beyond reproach, and her vocal performance on "say you love me" really makes that song imo (esp second verse).
i'm not really messing with "pieces" (too loud) and "you & i" has a weirdly wack chorus for verses that sound great imo. "cruel" is *okay* but the strings are a bit much, it feels super '70s and kind of out of step w/ the rest of the album.
i'm more or less on board though, she really does "suspended in air" well as an aesthetic.
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Friday, 10 October 2014 14:14 (eleven years ago)
not as instantly gripping as Devotion but i have a feeling it will grow on people. "say you love me" is the best love song released this year, byyyyyyy far. "pieces" and "champagne kisses" and "want your feeling" also own.
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 10 October 2014 15:11 (eleven years ago)
her vocal performance on "say you love me" really makes that song imo (esp second verse).
i was thinking this last night!
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 10 October 2014 15:35 (eleven years ago)
I would not mind an album's worth of "Taking in Water"
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 October 2014 15:44 (eleven years ago)
i was too harsh on "want your feeling" upthread. the drums are still kinda calcified sounding but dev hynes' limitations sometimes allow for uncanny spaces in the music, i.e. "lights still shining in the room / you left me in / ___________"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 10 October 2014 16:36 (eleven years ago)
like all the longing she's describing is entirely contained in that moment where she stops singing and the bass and drums weave into each other
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 10 October 2014 16:46 (eleven years ago)
"Keep On Lying" reminds me of "Valentine".
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Friday, 10 October 2014 17:32 (eleven years ago)
am, is "restrained" pejorative? The first album was influenced by a kind of female R&B -- English-inflected to be sure -- that you may or may not embrace.― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, October 9, 2014 9:07 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, October 9, 2014 9:07 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
no, it's not pejorative. i just think that the first album was notable for its musical restraint, so it's odd that someone would criticize the new one for being restrained.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 10 October 2014 18:59 (eleven years ago)
FWIW i love sade, aalyiah, etc.
the problem i had w/ the first jessie ware LP is just that the songs weren't always up to the arrangements and vocal approach. if you're going for an extremely restrained style it's best to have songs that are a bit more structurally engaging. i mean, there are /some/ great songs on there but at times it seemed like a "less is less" effect.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 10 October 2014 19:00 (eleven years ago)
"You and I (Forever)" is my favorite so far, particularly that seal call motif.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 October 2014 20:04 (eleven years ago)
key difference here seems to be between "restrained" and "boring"
― katherine, Friday, 10 October 2014 20:14 (eleven years ago)
there are decent moments on this obv but it's really telling what a relief "champagne kisses" when something THAT great finally emerges, and playing it b2b with devotion makes it sound a bit unfortunate
― lex pretend, Saturday, 11 October 2014 11:16 (eleven years ago)
Devotion is fairly restrained but it also has Wildest Moments and Night Light, moments where she breaks out of her usual hushed voice, so you get peaks in there. I wish she'd move into that register more often tbh, it's a good look for her.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 11 October 2014 11:34 (eleven years ago)
I suspect I'm only going to like Ware when the production is jagged-lush ("Cruel"), jagged-spare ("Champagne Kisses," "Keep on Lying"), and the ones that split the difference. As much as I love her voice it's the kind of Good Voice that will tempt her into Annie Lennox-style moves towards respectability ("Say You Love Me").
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 October 2014 14:58 (eleven years ago)
man it's such a shame about "cruel", the "strings" on that track really ruin it. it's a good song and the beat is this dope like junior boys kinda thing but those string sounds just smother everything. i'd love to hear the super minimal version of that track i bet it would be dope.
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 12 October 2014 04:59 (eleven years ago)
A demo of a track she recorded with Robin Hannibal of Quadron: https://soundcloud.com/jessieware/12demo
HOW DID THIS NOT MAKE IT ONTO THE ALBUM
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Sunday, 12 October 2014 19:02 (eleven years ago)
also the deluxe tracks are generally better than half of the record
― j. winters (josh), Sunday, 12 October 2014 21:31 (eleven years ago)
The only bonus track I like is "Midnight Caller".
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Sunday, 12 October 2014 22:25 (eleven years ago)
"kind of... sometimes... maybe" is ridic good
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 12 October 2014 23:40 (eleven years ago)
production is so good
i don't really fuck w/ any of the bonus tracks ... there's a good song hiding somewhere in "all on you" but i think it really needed to be streamlined
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 12 October 2014 23:55 (eleven years ago)
actually wait "the way we are" is dope
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 12 October 2014 23:56 (eleven years ago)
All of the bonus tracks save "Midnight Caller" feel like producer tracks feat. Jessie like those SBTRKT tracks with her on them. The producers' aesthetics overpower Jessie's in a way none of the proper album tracks do. Also, they just feel kinda insignificant and hook-less. I dunno.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Monday, 13 October 2014 00:00 (eleven years ago)
yeah she's kinda fighting the beat on "the way we are" but it reminds me of the-dream so i'm down
i don't like "midnight caller" at all, sounds super cheesy to me in a way she's usually able to avoid
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 October 2014 00:01 (eleven years ago)
I like how lyrically straightforward it is.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Monday, 13 October 2014 00:02 (eleven years ago)
Overall it's a step down from Devotion -- she hints at Annie Lennoxisms -- but her producers help.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 October 2014 00:04 (eleven years ago)
Diva is a fine model. The other albums aren't.
The new album is a grower, like Devotion.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Monday, 13 October 2014 00:08 (eleven years ago)
The first album had a couple of nullities but no rank offenses like the Sam Smith confection.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 October 2014 00:13 (eleven years ago)
this is how i break it down to an extent
songs as good as anything she's ever done
champagne kisseskind of sometimes maybetough love
very good songs that stand up w/ any album track on devotion
sweetest songwant your feelingkeep on lyingdesire
songs i'm not really fucking with
you & icruelpieces
crossover single that is totally out of place with her entire discography but is actually an anthem
say you love me
so i'm really really fucking with a solid 3/4 of the album, and it's not like i outright dislike the three i'm not really feeling. they're listenable tracks, they just needed some editing in various places.
i sort of cooled on devotion over time & i wouldn't say this is better but i'll go to the mat for it. i've been playing it all weekend.
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 October 2014 00:15 (eleven years ago)
stuff like "night light" & "swan song" & "taking in water" off devotion are as throwaway to me as the so-so stuff on this album
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 October 2014 00:17 (eleven years ago)
man "Taking in Water" and "Night Light" are, with "Running" and "Wildest Moments," my killer moments. "Taking Water" reeeeaallly kills me.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 October 2014 00:18 (eleven years ago)
I didn't fuck w/ "You & I" at first but it's really been growing on me the last few listens. Don't get the distaste for "Cruel" that I've been seeing a few places.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Monday, 13 October 2014 00:22 (eleven years ago)