i picked up that 1st bathory album in a charity shop last week and yes its primitive, raw as fuck music.
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:38 (nine years ago) link
not to be hyperbolic but if you don't like "Necromancy" from the s/t Bathory album pls jump off a bridge
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 05:36 (eight years ago) link
listening to both today because i recently started reading the lords of chaos book. i was impressed by venom but when i skipped straight into bathory's Blood Fire Death i was blown away. then i went back to the S/T and was even morer blown awayerer. i am basically the maxell tape guy right now. i am crossing my fingers that they don't end up sacrificing babies later to satan later in the book because for now they just kind of rule
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 March 2017 05:05 (seven years ago) link
you know what, even if they did, if that's what it takes to make "in conspiracy with satan" just do it guys, have at it
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 March 2017 05:08 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRpikSZHHRY
Bathory's intense, but Venom's way more fun.
― larry appleton, Saturday, 4 March 2017 05:14 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/9RcU0HJ.jpg
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 March 2017 05:29 (seven years ago) link
Hammerheart > Venom > Bathory
― “Remember,” he says, “Noddy Holder is a gangster.” (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 March 2017 05:46 (seven years ago) link
aw man, i haven't gotten around to hammerheart yet. satanic friday is going to have to become a tradition for me
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 March 2017 05:50 (seven years ago) link
was that supposed to say Hellhammer > Venom > Bathory?
if not, Hellhammer > Venom > Bathory
― Devilock, Saturday, 4 March 2017 09:17 (seven years ago) link
honestly as important as HH is, Bathory's career trajectory is really beautiful and the Viking metal records are some of the most wonderful night-driving music there is. Venom is better than its detractors say and worse than its partisans claim. Bathory on top of these three imo
― though the tempest rages, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 4 March 2017 13:00 (seven years ago) link
Early Venom's sloppy, cartoony Satanic fury is pure joy, but I think Bathory's Under the Sign of the Black Mark is a pinnacle that can't be touched. Kinda achieved some sort of aggro zen state through that pulsing fuzz. Special piece of work.
― circa1916, Saturday, 4 March 2017 15:46 (seven years ago) link
oops
I like the Viking albums (mostly) but it makes me miss the purity of some of the older stuff.
― circa1916, Saturday, 4 March 2017 15:48 (seven years ago) link
i really, really, really like the instrumental intros to all of the bathory albums i've listened to so far. they keep reminding me of popul vuh, although maybe part of that is that i keep getting an Aguirre The Wrath Of God vibe from Bathory.
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 March 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link
Nuh-uh. I mean Hammerheart, the allfucking Bathory album. Much as I dig the early filth & spikes stuff, Hammerheart's on a whole different and also other separate level.
― “Remember,” he says, “Noddy Holder is a gangster.” (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 March 2017 19:23 (seven years ago) link
i keep getting an Aguirre The Wrath Of God vibe from Bathory
Ha, can dig this. Will keep in mind next time I fire them up.
― circa1916, Saturday, 4 March 2017 19:32 (seven years ago) link
tbh I've hated the Bathory I've heard past Blood Fire Death. I don't think Viking metal is for me. Mind you I haven't heard any Venom from that time so it wouldn't be fair to base any comparison on that because I'm sure they probably sucked in the early 90s as well.
― Transform All Suffering Into Poo (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 4 March 2017 19:33 (seven years ago) link
i prefer bathory (the early stuff and the viking stuff) but i'm as false as they come so grain of salt. much respect for venom, tho, troo originators indeed
― a but (brimstead), Saturday, 4 March 2017 19:58 (seven years ago) link
This is Bathory for me but i love WTH and BM
― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 March 2017 23:12 (seven years ago) link
I listen way more to early Bathory than viking tho
― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 March 2017 23:13 (seven years ago) link
FUCK OFF AND DIE!
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 March 2017 23:14 (seven years ago) link
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 March 2017 23:15 (seven years ago) link
i keep yelling that at people i see on the street but it never goes well, even after i say "Don't listen to much Venom do you?"
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 March 2017 23:17 (seven years ago) link
venom is what i thought punk sounded like before i ever heard punk
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 5 March 2017 06:42 (seven years ago) link
I so hated Venom when I was first into metal because to me metal that ugly was just revolting but now that's why I love it so much. years, perspective, etc....
I had a friend who used to make fun of them forever and then realized he confused them with Poison the entire time.
― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 March 2017 06:44 (seven years ago) link
The American or the German Poison?
― Siegbran, Sunday, 5 March 2017 19:50 (seven years ago) link
American!
"Venom" and "POison" similar terms I guess it makes sense
― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 March 2017 20:01 (seven years ago) link
This is so otm it's not even funny any more.
And yet, as much as I love Bathory (boy do they kick Venom's butt), the perfect follow-up to an intro like Storm of Damnation for me still is Lurker of Chalice's s/t. They wouldn't exist without Bathory but it's BM taken to a whole new level imo.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 5 March 2017 23:07 (seven years ago) link
I met this cute girl at the Eyehategod show on Monday. she introduced herself because she was sitting at the table near me, we hit it off, started flirting before she disappeared to the front of the stage later in the evening.
She had a Venom patch on her jean jacket. ergo, Venom wins.
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 26 August 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link
BLACK METAL NIGHT IS HERE AGAIN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XV7dQNRLZ4
― jmm, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link
bathory >>>>>>
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link
been spending a lot of time with the first two albums and they fucking rip
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:17 (five years ago) link
otm
― pomenitul, Monday, 11 March 2019 16:23 (five years ago) link
yeah, otm
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link
under the sign of the black mark is the most awesome album ever made
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 11 March 2019 23:39 (five years ago) link
did venom ever do epic Viking shit
― brimstead, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 00:46 (five years ago) link
I like bathory a lot. venom is too real for my poser ass
I had no idea that Jonas Åkerlund, who directed Lords of Chaos, was Bathory's drummer from 1983 to 1984.
― pomenitul, Friday, 22 March 2019 09:59 (five years ago) link
Bathory but Venom is underrated, especially latter-day stuff
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 22 March 2019 10:29 (five years ago) link
It's true, the first two Venom albums are worthy of all the praise of course but there's very solid (and varied) material in the later albums. A lot of chaff tho.
― Siegbran, Friday, 22 March 2019 10:44 (five years ago) link
I hate Viking Bathory so that's a point for Venom
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 22 March 2019 11:36 (five years ago) link
Bathory is slightly more important, probably.I listen to Venom slightly more often personally.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 22 March 2019 14:44 (five years ago) link
Early Bathory are way more inspiring to me, where I feel like I'm hearing the seed of black metal's potentiality. I don't quite get the same feeling from Venom.
― jmm, Friday, 22 March 2019 15:36 (five years ago) link
Under the Sign of the Black Mark is one of my favorite albums of all time. Love the first two Venom albums too, but Bathory for me.
― circa1916, Friday, 22 March 2019 15:40 (five years ago) link