Herman--yes. As I mentioned above, Green Desert is entirely worthy.
I seem to be missing only the box set and Force Majeure. I plan to correct that soon!
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 14 March 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
ok i'll check it out. It's not on Spotify though so im checking out Cyclone instead.
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 15 March 2009 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Im not sure about those vocals on Cyclone.
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 March 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link
ilxor should check this poll
Thanks, I saw it!
These are the ones I have so far:
1974 Phaedra 111972 Zeit 61979 Force Majeure 51976 Stratosfear 51975 Rubycon 3
I've heard Electronic Meditation is good and saw that one at the local shop, so probably getting that one next.
― ilxor, Monday, 16 March 2009 00:59 (fifteen years ago) link
That one may be too rockist for you (sounds like early Pink Floyd)
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 16 March 2009 03:56 (fifteen years ago) link
it's great. Very different to anything else they ever done. Also check out Atem.
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 March 2009 11:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Which I am going to listen to right now. Been ages since I listened to the spacey stuff.
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 March 2009 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link
I cant find Green Desert online anywhere on any blogs.
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Herman, hit me up off line for a YSE.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 00:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Awesome,I'll send you a webmail with my email, thanks!
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 00:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Or I would if the webmail thing worked... gmail me at pfunkboy@
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 00:19 (fifteen years ago) link
oh and Nate check out Best Track on Tangerine Dream - Force Majeure?
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 00:21 (fifteen years ago) link
I just picked up a $3 copy of Phaedra today cuz of this thread, the only other one I have is Electronic Meditation so it's nice to know where to start.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 00:22 (fifteen years ago) link
It's totally different to that album. Like the 1st 2 Kraftwerk albums and their later material, the difference is astounding. Still really like EM and the 1st 2 Kraftwerk though.
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah I wouldn't say EM is much of a primer for anything they did afterwards. Same with the first Van Der Graaf Generator or the first couple Pink Floyds. Just a whole different beast really.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 00:54 (fifteen years ago) link
But still enjoyable! I listen to the 1st VDGG album a lot and the 1st Pink Floyd is by far my favourite.
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 10:41 (fifteen years ago) link
I'd hardly place the 1st Pink Floyd album in the same category as the first VDGG album! Or the 1st TD album, for that matter!
― Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 10:42 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't think that's what Nate meant, he just means that it's totally different to what came later, like with these other bands.
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 11:00 (fifteen years ago) link
fopp are currently doing most of the tg virgin albs for 3 quid a pop. i bought rubycon (a winner) and ricochet (v gd 2nd side, not so wowed by the gtr and vox on the first track.) looking at this poll, will prob go back for stratosfear and maybe force majeure - i did have a copy of encore on cd and wasn't that thrilled by it, so had p much written off everything post-phaedra, may have to revise that opinion in the light of rubycon.
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 14 April 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Rubycon is probably my just-about favourite
― A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 April 2011 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
the virgin years 1974-1978 can be found for under $15 in several online stores.
― jay lenonononono (abanana), Thursday, 14 April 2011 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link
force majeure is awesome but that and stratosfear do have spacerock guitar on it (which makes them awesome but you might not agree)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 14 April 2011 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Cyclone, despite it's dreadful vox is a pretty damn tight record.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 14 April 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Side 2 of Cyclone heads off into this amazing motorik synth jam, side 1 is ruined by the vocals though. Sorceror is a little talked about goodie too, somewhat of a throwback to the Atem era sound on some tracks.
― Gully Foyle is my name (Matt #2), Thursday, 14 April 2011 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Phaedra is a really good pick as it is kind of the fulcrum from their early space sound and the beginning of the rolling sequencers that would dominate their later records.
That said, TD were a consistently good group through the 70s.
― earlnash, Friday, 15 April 2011 04:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I've been enjoying the Sorcerer soundtrack. from 1977, comprised of short pieces, so I guess it's atypical. some synth bits cry out "Depeche Mode!" "80s R&B!" like, prescient.
― electrophonic gin & tonic (m coleman), Friday, 15 April 2011 09:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Word! Sorcerer was 'xactly the one I thought of first, too.
― t**t, Friday, 15 April 2011 09:54 (thirteen years ago) link
God I love that bit like 4:40 into "Phaedra" where it has that rolling bass line that sounds like a guitar
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
It sucks about the vocals on side 1 of cyborg because the music is pretty tight
― lol is not enough (blank), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
Ok so what's the scoop on White Eagle? Geir's description sounds like most of what I listen to these days.
― lol is not enough (blank), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 02:02 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah that period of T. Dream was very straightforward synth with a very poppy edge to it, so if you like that sort of thing you'll like White Eagle and Hyperborea...will probably hit the spot if you liked those early Jean-Michel Jarre albums like Oxygene and Equinoxe, too.
― Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 11 August 2011 00:25 (twelve years ago) link
Sounds good, will have to keep an eye out for 'em.
― lol is not enough (blank), Thursday, 11 August 2011 00:30 (twelve years ago) link
white eagle sounds ace these days
its all about the title track.
― mark e, Thursday, 11 August 2011 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
Took me 11 years but I picked up the two post-Atem Virgin collections (which are very cheap and sound great) and basically every one of these records (ending at 1983's Hyperborea) is pretty excellent. Varies from pop ambient-new age-y synth to haunting moody soundtrack patches to kraut-trance-rock w solos to match. I'll have to sit down and figure out all my faves (Encores and Tangram are both uniformly excellent).
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 3 January 2016 02:59 (eight years ago) link
This past year I picked up the deluxe 2CD reissues of Atem, Alpha Centauri and Zeit, as well as the 4CD Virgin Years: 1974-1978 box, and this week I got the Edgar Froese Solo (1974-1983): The Virgin Years 4CD set as a companion. Lot of great stuff on there.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 3 January 2016 03:09 (eight years ago) link
The amount of music they made in those years is amazing, love Froese's contemporary solo albums as well. TG is basically unimpeachable from their beginning through the mid 70s. And the 80s stuff is pretty cool too!
― lute bro (brimstead), Sunday, 3 January 2016 03:15 (eight years ago) link
The amount of *quality* music, I should say. The purest 'light a spliff' records if you're willing
― lute bro (brimstead), Sunday, 3 January 2016 03:16 (eight years ago) link
Force Majeure is my favorite TG album, though, by far
― lute bro (brimstead), Sunday, 3 January 2016 03:17 (eight years ago) link
i find it hard to single out a fave as this whole era of the band is full of perfection for me.from the early space rock grooves, via the bonkers vocals album (which i hated at first, but now love), to the then futuristic sounding brilliant use of midi enhanced sequencers.a year ago i got the EF boxset and since then, my limited 12Gb phone has had the following on it : the complete Virgin era TD material, the EF boxset, Kraftwerk remasters and the latest Neu! remasters.i have had a few sonic based detours over the last 12 months, but this core set has been my mainstay of 2015.and i am still not bored with any of it.(hence the revival of the FAX groove in recent weeks)
― mark e, Sunday, 3 January 2016 18:04 (eight years ago) link
Just listening to "Alpha Centauri", SOMEONE SHOOT THAT FLUTE PLAYER FFS! I use the phrase 'flute player' rather than 'flautist' because flautist implies someone who has some skill and knows what they're doing. The flute is a nearly insurmountable problem with a lot of (early) Krautrock - Florian Schneider is the only person who seems able to do anything useful with the damn thing. Also "Alpha Centauri" isn't very good.
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Friday, 27 March 2020 15:16 (four years ago) link
flute is a beautiful sound you monster
the longer i've lived with TD the less interest i've got in anything from Ricochet on tbh
― Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 March 2020 15:40 (four years ago) link
altho some of Froese's solo stuff is still good up to the v early 80s
― Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 March 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link
nonsense... hyperborea, thief, wavelength, flashpoint, logos all totally rule
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 27 March 2020 16:29 (four years ago) link
... and White Eagle and Poland.
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Friday, 27 March 2020 17:35 (four years ago) link
Beyond Poland you're in rough territory though
― akb23 (Matt #2), Friday, 27 March 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link
I like the first couple of ones with haslinger ok
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link
Yeah I've repped for Optical Race a few times on TD threads
― the grateful dead can dance (anagram), Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:56 (four years ago) link
as I think I've said on every TD thread, I get off the bus at Underwater Sunlight, although it has a couple of decent tracks.
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 28 March 2020 18:40 (four years ago) link
I've decided I really don't like "Force Majeure" very much apart from that awesome end section to "Thru Metamorphic Rocks". The rest of it is too like tasteful prog rock for my taste, too 'musical', and too much guitar and, as I think I've said ad nauseum, I don't like Edgar Froese's guitar playing at all.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:26 (four years ago) link
i have never ever FP'd anyone ever on ilm as its not my groove, but damn ...
― mark e, Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:49 (four years ago) link