WOW! This rare version of "Black Dog" sounds exactly like..."Black Dog."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPGfDx6mB8w#t=52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaOgZwk9rN8
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 5 September 2014 17:43 (ten years ago) link
lol
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 September 2014 17:49 (ten years ago) link
Plant is very wary of being drawn into a war of words with Page. “He should get on and do something, he’s a superb talent. That’s the sad thing for Jimmy, he knows that I’m his guy, I’m his pal, but the warmth that he needs to actually enjoy the world, it’s all there. Come on and give it to us.”
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 September 2014 18:18 (ten years ago) link
Led Zeppelin loses first round in Stairway To Heaven lawsuit
― Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link
Zeppelin and their music companies have requested that the case be dismissed, as the “individual defendants are British citizens residing in England, own no property in Pennsylvania and have no contacts with Pennsylvania, let alone ties sufficient to render them essentially at home here,”
lol @ this transparent delaying tactic
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link
you mean standard litigation practice?
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link
of course
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link
the law is funny!
"c'mon don't make me spend any time in Pennsylvania" is a totally legitimate legal complaint imo
― some dude, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link
Their lawyers would probably be guilty of malpractice if they didn't raise potential jurisdictional and/or forum non conveniens arguments in this case (IDK which of the two it is from that description). Why is it in PA in the first place - does one of the members of Spirit live there or did they just pick a court friendly to copyright plaintiffs?
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:01 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Sure, but Zeppelin is claiming sole credit for it as a new tactic in litigation.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link
c'mon don't make me spend any time in Pennsylvania" is a totally legitimate legal complaint imo
― some dude, Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:05 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It sounds funny, but this is actually a huge part of civil procedure in the united states. There's this whole due process concept that someone shouldn't just be able to drag you into court wherever the fuck.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link
By contrast, the new "Rain Song" mix is incredible.
― Darin, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:38 (nine years ago) link
My gosh this "Houses Of The Holy" reissue has leaked and the bonus track alt mixes are sweet sweet sweet. The "IV" reissue is nice, sounds great, but now I'm really anticipating "PE".
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:58 (nine years ago) link
also - fuck Spirit.
haha I meant I'm anticipating "PG"
100% on board with "fuck Spirit."
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
Non-hit-having-motherfuckers wanna get paid for coming up with a chord progression that lasts 5 seconds
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link
Maybe they should ask themselves why Taurus is the only Spirit song 95% of the people who know who Spirit are can even name.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link
yeah lawsuit is bullshit
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link
I'm totally rooting for Spirit, even though I don't think they have a case. I just like to see Page squirm.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link
Hurting 2 OTM.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link
I generally think music copyright is way too broad and really should not protect artists' right to not have songs that sound kinda like their songs, or even pretty strikingly similar (cf "My Sweet Lord"/"He's So Fine"). It really should only be for literally stealing someone's song or very close to it.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link
Man, Spirit's version of the progression is so much worse too - the way it clumsily drops to that d-minor, like it doesn't know where the fuck to go, whereas Stairway has the guts to hang on the Fmaj7 for as long as it can before returning to the Am.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link
er sorry that's misexplained, they stay both stay on the fmaj7 for the same amount of time, but nonetheless zep did it better, w/e
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link
I finally heard the remasters of the first three albums this weekend. Bonus tracks (even the live stuff) totally inessential, but holy shit, the albums really do are improved. I may wind up buying these fucking things and selling my 1993 box after all. But I'll wait till the whole series is out; there'll probably be a price drop.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
not to excuses actual rip-offs committed by Zep but I hate nebulous music copyright lawsuits like this one.
Still pissed that Men At Work ended up owing millions for quoting "Kookaburra" in "Land Down Under".
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 01:23 (nine years ago) link
So given his range, why are there so many instances c. "Houses" that Robert Plant seems to be pitch shifted even higher? "Song Remains the Same," "The Ocean" ...
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 13:14 (nine years ago) link
Zep messed around with tape speed and vocal processing all the time, didn't they? "No Quarter" was slowed down, I thought? Isn't there some varispeed fuckery on "Four Sticks" as well? In the case of the songs you mention, I'm not sure if it was just sonic experimentation or if Plant was losing his highest register a little already.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 13:27 (nine years ago) link
Plant was losing his range pretty early on; I don't think he ever sang "Rock & Roll" live with the same melody as on the record.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 13:31 (nine years ago) link
It's mostly all that one album, though, isn't it? Those two tracks and "The Crunge" sped up, "No Quarter" slowed down? Do they mess with tape speed much on "Physical Graffiti?"
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 14:02 (nine years ago) link
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:25 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
OTM, im totally on Spirit's side in this. Page is one of the all time ripoff artists.
― Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link
Thanks for weighing in.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link
Anytime
― Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link
I'm just glad all those Spirit tribute bands now have another song besides "I Got A Line On You" that audiences might recognize. Finally!
― bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link
Hahaha
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link
Personally, I'm waiting for Brahms' descendants to sue Rick Wakeman.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link
I don't care what y'all say, "Fresh Garbage" is classic.
― rushomancy, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link
yeah that's *the Spirit song I like*, but I mean it's not exactly a shoulda-been-#1
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 23:51 (nine years ago) link
"Nature's Way" people.
― Thus We Frustrate Kid Charlemagne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 23:56 (nine years ago) link
12 Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus owns
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:49 (nine years ago) link
I've just listened to the remastered "Houses of the Holy" and damn does it sound fantastic !Somehow it strikes me much more than all the other remasters so far. "Rain song" sounds pristine.
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 14:36 (nine years ago) link
New Page interview:http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/jimmy-page-led-zeppelin-was-an-affair-of-the-heart-20141028?page=4
he is more coy about curious omissions amid the bonus tracks so far, including the Led Zeppelin III-era B-side, "Hey, Hey, What Can I Do" and unreleased Indo-symphonic versions of III's "Friends" and IV's "Four Sticks," recorded by Page and singer Robert Plant in 1972 in what was then Bombay, India, with sitars, tabla drums and a local orchestra. "Can't comment on that, really," Page says with a sly grin. "I can't tell you what's coming, can I?"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
so are they saving the actual good outtakes and unreleased stuff for some kinda new odds n' sods thing? or a new Coda?
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link
That's so stupid. "Hey, buy our definitive remasters with their bonus discs of stuff, but keep in mind ... they may not be definitive, save some cash, wink wink." In another life Jimmy Page made "Friday the 13th" sequels.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
"I can't tell you what's coming, can I?"
YES YOU CAN, YOU DOUBLENECK MORON.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:01 (nine years ago) link
I know the answer: more Zeppelin stuff.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:09 (nine years ago) link
Goddamm, that rough mix of "No Quarter"
― pplains, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link
I've heard the plans for the Coda reissue are spectacular, suggesting they knew no one would buy it unless they saved a load of good unreleased stuff for it.
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 22:06 (nine years ago) link
^^30 minute "Bonzo's Montreux" megamix.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link