I think Noz is right to push "Sosa style" as representative of nu keef ish, feels like a good rallying pt around which the rest of these records can rotate
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 4 September 2014 23:48 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/a_plus/status/507763276005265408https://twitter.com/a_plus/status/507763441789304832
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 5 September 2014 08:24 (nine years ago) link
some of this new stuff sounds like busdriver fell down a well
― r|t|c, Friday, 5 September 2014 09:05 (nine years ago) link
not sure i hear that, gotta say. it's like the anti-busdriver. keef likes to max out at four words per bar
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 5 September 2014 10:19 (nine years ago) link
unless you mean, like, when he fell in the well, the sentences broke off on the way down, or something
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 5 September 2014 10:23 (nine years ago) link
oh hemiola is the only creative jazzy flow is it :P
nah it's not so much any ott lyrical miracle stuff just mainly kinda the cali bro/gameshow host voice he puts on for 'i quote' or 'shooters' tbh
― r|t|c, Friday, 5 September 2014 12:12 (nine years ago) link
agree that "sosa style" is a good song for 2014 keef stuff to orbit around but i actually think it's one of his few songs from this year where he has a really dope & unique beat to work with (also "no")
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 September 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link
sorta feel like keef has been working with kinda crappy/amateur beats for a while so i was particularly excited about his infamous 75%/40% tweet about recording 30 new songs with chop
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 September 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link
anyway can't believe you're sleeping on "how it go" -- i think it's one of his few songs from this year that really nails the stylistic aesthetic of the song barely being held together without it, you know, actually not being held together (which is how i feel about something like "ight dow"). also weird mix of pathos and defiance that i think is particularly evocative here both vocally & lyrically
all these niggas up in they feelingssmokin loud pack i can't hear my feelingsall a nigga want is some billionsbut i'm smokin loud pack as i spend my milions
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 September 2014 15:06 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/q0s8HeP.png
ysi?
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 September 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, September 5, 2014 9:49 AM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nah it's not even the only beat to use that trick ("Gucci Gang" illustrates how effective it is, though) and 12hunna is one of the best producers out ... listen to "hundreds" and "pull up" and "make it count," those are top of the line beats. The drum programming is so intricate and strange.
I notice there are actually a few "citgo" type songs but after the corny indie fuxx wave of citgo support I hestiate to enthuse about the "tec" style shit now.
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 5 September 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link
That "Gucci Gang" track is crazy - first thing from Keef that I've heard for a while that's made me sit up and pay attention.
― MikoMcha, Friday, 5 September 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link
listen to "hundreds" and "pull up" and "make it count"
i've heard these songs.... i don't hear at all what you hear in those beats. they're completely non-functional.
if ilovemakonnen was rapping over these beats and vice was praising how "intricate and strange" the production is you'd be calling bullshit
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 September 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link
also i have a pretty high tolerance for poorly produced beats but most of those 12hunna beats sound like total shit and i can't vibe to them at all
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 September 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, September 5, 2014 10:52 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'd be saying that if it was makonnen over 'sosa style' also. you're totally wrong man, i don't know how else to put it. try downloading the songs off itunes or something so you have them on good quality and aren't listening in a hasty 30 second itunes binge.
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 5 September 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link
*youtube binge
lol @ you telling me to not listen to chief keef songs on youtube when that's how his music is consumed by 90% of people including his core fanbase
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 September 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link
without fucking dj hustlenomics stepping all over the song smh
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 5 September 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link
you don't know 12hunna beats until you hear them on vinyl
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 September 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link
You're letting your fetish for melodic autotune pop cheese get in the way of your discernment here. the spindly beats w/ all the little pointillist details and disorienting grooves 12hunna is doing is way more interesting than 'how it go.' people are sleeping on it because the only versions are super tagged up by annoying dj hustlenomics drops on youtube so they can sell the NO DJs on itunes etc
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 5 September 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link
whiney-level argument by j0rdan here
it's weird to hear you of all people fetishizing how "weird" and "interesting" the production is
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 September 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link
i'm not 'fetishizing' it, you specifically said he gets wack beats and you're wrong
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 5 September 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link
To be clear, it isn't the sort of thing I'd wanting to be listening to very much, if at all. Especially the video, really doesn't look like anyone's having much of a good time...
― MikoMcha, Friday, 5 September 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link
i think those 12hunna songs play far too much into keef's formless tendencies... i think something like "pull up" is much closer to the stuff of his 2013 mixtapes that you didn't really like than you want to admit
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 September 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link
I imagine Keef being sort of just pushed in front of the camera in his drug stupor, everyone making sure he doesn't fall over or pass out unconscious.
― MikoMcha, Friday, 5 September 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link
really doesn't look like anyone's having much of a good time...
Wouldn't be too interested in CK if he were having a good time.
― the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Friday, 5 September 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link
the 12hunna beats are purposefully "interesting" but to what end?
who produced "jet li"? that's the best kind of keef beat imo. it's like a midpoint between the effects 12hunna uses and something like jim jonsin that forces him to use more structure
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 September 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link
"bang bros" beat >>>> any of those 12hunna songs you mentioned
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 September 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link
no
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 5 September 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link
i think you're following some previous idea of how his best stuff is supposed to sound & not letting yourself be flexible enough for the new direction. the way 'make it count' works is esp clever, beat builds up this mood by adding elements over time, then dropping out and picking up again as if losing and regaining energy, it's very disorienting and immersive
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 5 September 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
the complexity of the drum programming in a record like that or 'hundreds' is to an end, they all hang together—listen to the kick drop on 'hundreds' dropping in triplet pattern, it's got this like nervous momentum while the melody twists around in this weird fancy, regal feel ... idk this is hard to describe, but this stuff is super unique...the only record that the 12hunna stuff reminds me of is meek's 'off the corner'
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 5 September 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link
oh god 'bang bros' is a perfect example, you're looking for one-note euphoria whereas this stuff is much more about queasy uncertainty, ambiguity, uneveness
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 5 September 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link
Love Sosa & Don't Like = Keef having a good time > *
― longneck, Friday, 5 September 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
well "bang bros" happens to be euphoric but i just think it's a much better production. i don't hear anything inherently euphoric in the production even though durk went there with it.
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 September 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link
TBH I think his 2014 has been better than most competing artists.
he has depth as a rapper & isn't a singles machine.
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, September 3, 2014 3:37 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
popply abba hoze lahgs abe foals
― crüt, Monday, July 15, 2013 1:08 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― bozack horseman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 5 September 2014 17:35 (nine years ago) link
what i LIKE about new artists like keef is that he makes popular rappers like Kanye and Pusha T, for example, seem old and dated. Kanye knows hip hop is all about staying new that's why he does shit like 808s and Yeezus. He has to go completely different otherwise he's gone and forgotten. For example TI was brave getting on a track with Yung Thugger, but he managed to stay with him and not get overshadowed and sound old. Unlike say, Tyga on hookah, who's style sounds really dated and prosaic next to YT.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 5 September 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link
you know whats a weird interesting song i fetishize
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqGycb6_GRE
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 September 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link
curvy, colombian beats
― bozack horseman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 5 September 2014 19:24 (nine years ago) link
man i'm surprised to hear tyga got upstaged on a song
― rap steve (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 September 2014 19:24 (nine years ago) link
its weird
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 September 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link
"First day out" is so good moar gucci remakes plz
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 5 September 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link
its' not about getting upstaged, he didn't get upstaged, that's to imply there was ever any fair competition. He was just an irrelevance. a style that was seen as cool and desirable to some people only a few years ago now ill-adapted to any song.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 5 September 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link
tyga is a dipshit
― rap steve (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 September 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link
jeff weiss said he heard tyga's "yeezus album" as exec prod by kanye west himself so racoon tanuki may have to swallow his wors
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 September 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link
no one ever liked tyga iirc
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 September 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link
I'm ok w tyga in a boring generic way he doesn't sound old IMO (a la Ross and jeezy on finally rich) so much as tepidly regular. But it's not even distracting on hookah
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 5 September 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link
Tyga isn't really generic imo because he always shoots for something beyond just competent with his flows and word choices and then falls somewhere below competent because he's a terrible vocalist who uses words he doesn't understand. it's like the exact opposite of capable unambitious Jeezy types.
― some dude, Friday, 5 September 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, September 5, 2014 12:00 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark
Lmao
― 龜, Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:20 (nine years ago) link
more like 'til you hear them without dj hustlenomics dropping like 80 gunshots, airhorns, and dj effects on top of them'
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link
Brrt-brrt, yeah, hello, man, who this?I don't know, I got you saved as, "Fat booty bitch"
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 19:15 (six months ago) link
haha wow yeah he went off
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 19:22 (six months ago) link
dirty nachos is amazing
― flopson, Sunday, 17 March 2024 23:12 (two months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVwjL_yJrSk
― flopson, Sunday, 17 March 2024 23:13 (two months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWUDbCEYEqs
― flopson, Sunday, 17 March 2024 23:15 (two months ago) link
so… almighty so 2. this is going hard so far
― devvvine, Friday, 10 May 2024 06:32 (one month ago) link
runner beat is crazy. feels like strongest project since bfd3, though i'm not a keef completist.
― devvvine, Friday, 10 May 2024 08:52 (one month ago) link