he needs to bring back the Davy Crockett hat + up-to-the-chin overalls, getting kind of an Adam Ant vibe from that look
― Brad C., Thursday, 28 August 2014 18:18 (eleven years ago)
For all the sturm und drang over RR's overdubs and Band demos, I've always dug the shit out of things like "Yazoo Street Scandal." Big Pink Funk with Calliope Garth Hudson wheedling over the top is ok in my book. And however they came up with it, the BT's version of "This Wheel's on Fire" is fucking definitive.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 29 August 2014 02:59 (eleven years ago)
i love all those songs! it was more just ppl grumbling that it was sort of phony to have them there
― ra's al goole (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 August 2014 15:04 (eleven years ago)
Yeah that album is a total classic, overdubs and non basement songs included.
― tylerw, Friday, 29 August 2014 15:20 (eleven years ago)
If the official adulterated/overdubbed basement tapes had a version of All I Have To Do Is Dream on it it'd be all I need tbrr
― before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 30 August 2014 18:42 (eleven years ago)
floorbirds = essential
― before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 30 August 2014 18:43 (eleven years ago)
Whole thing streaming online at NPR right now:
http://www.npr.org/2014/10/26/357630611/first-listen-bob-dylan-the-basement-tapes-complete-the-bootleg-series-vol-11
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 27 October 2014 19:08 (eleven years ago)
sampler
― i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Monday, 27 October 2014 19:11 (eleven years ago)
Sasha Frere-Jones sez, "Robbie Robertson already picked all the winners!"http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/11/03/fall-4
Historically, these sessions have been treated with awe, as if something essential about both Dylan and popular song can be found on the tapes. That’s at best half true. The performances weren’t approached with any kind of gravity, and are best listened to with no reverence at all. For every moment of revelation and synthesis, there are five throwaways.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 27 October 2014 19:14 (eleven years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 27 October 2014 19:17 (eleven years ago)
he's right that there are plenty of throwaways, but there's also plenty of wonderful stuff that hasn't yet seen official release. i like a lot of the ballads on this one especially, some of which were never released because the takes aren't complete.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 27 October 2014 20:38 (eleven years ago)
i mean song for song that recent bootleg series volume on 1969–1970 might beat this one
― I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 27 October 2014 20:39 (eleven years ago)
dunno, the "throwaways" are a big part of the basement tapes, aren't they? they're the basement tapes! i like the unfinished-ness of these recordings. I think it was paul williams who said it was more like hearing the idea of the song, rather than the song itself.
― tylerw, Monday, 27 October 2014 20:54 (eleven years ago)
i can't imagine what hearing an idea of a song sounds like
― I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 27 October 2014 21:21 (eleven years ago)
You will if you listen to this whole thing, or A Tree With Roots. Also, I love how he sings "Still In Town," "Young But Daily Growing" (such a voice on the boysky then, when he was in the mood); very crisp, non-throwaway covers of other folk & country chestnuts too, giving the originals some competition (though I assume "Silent Weekend," on the xpost pre-release sampler posted at npr, is an original, and also country strong" a tad blurry around the edges, but appropriately so: swigging and swinging that moonshine consolation)
― dow, Monday, 27 October 2014 21:41 (eleven years ago)
So no, Robertson didn't pick nearly all the keepers---and for all his thoughtful fixes in the mixes, this sampler has better audio.
― dow, Monday, 27 October 2014 21:43 (eleven years ago)
hey dow - are any of the songs that cut off prematurely in tree w/roots available in a full version on this? or was that all there was?
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 October 2014 21:51 (eleven years ago)
Haven't heard the whole legit version, just this sampler. Lot of track info grayed out on iTunes and Amazon, last time I checked (but iTunes did have the whole digital thang for $59.99; Amazon's only digital is 2-discs-worth, for $19.99 I think [that's Raw, the Robertson picks minus his fixes, plus a few more]; their only Complete is 6 CDs and a book or booklet, for $127.99)
― dow, Monday, 27 October 2014 22:04 (eleven years ago)
rollingstone.com's prob got more info about tracks.
― dow, Monday, 27 October 2014 22:05 (eleven years ago)
You will if you listen to this whole thing, or A Tree With Roots
i have, many times.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 27 October 2014 22:19 (eleven years ago)
i too love "still in town," "young but daily growin," "spanish is the loving tongue," "the french girl," etc.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 27 October 2014 22:20 (eleven years ago)
my comment above was just taking issue with that critic's line about "hearing the idea of a song"--i have no idea what that means
Well, like on the sampler's version of "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere," you sort of have to squint at it, or some of it is a squint; D. hasn't quite gotten it in focus yet, seems like.
― dow, Monday, 27 October 2014 22:28 (eleven years ago)
SFJ is such a cunt
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 27 October 2014 22:29 (eleven years ago)
That first track on the NPR sampler sounds no better than my boot version -- lowering my expectations
― bodacious ignoramus, Monday, 27 October 2014 23:45 (eleven years ago)
30 unbootlegged tracks in the box, right? No idea if they make it worth buying for those who have A Tree With Roots (at the moment,it's a moot point for me, financially).
― dow, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 00:00 (eleven years ago)
there's no way i'm buying this for $150 or whatever. what's in the box? bob dylan nose hair? a t-shirt? redundant vinyl? a hardbound box i will look at once, maybe? fuck a sony.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 00:38 (eleven years ago)
for that much money i want the actual basement tapes in the box, like, the original tapes.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 00:39 (eleven years ago)
You get temporary custody of Garth Hudson.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 00:43 (eleven years ago)
And the screen door he fixed.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 00:44 (eleven years ago)
on a side note, why does greil marcus keep retitling his books?
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 00:57 (eleven years ago)
Ordered a copy from Overstock.com - $99.15 with free shipping.
― Jazzbo, Friday, 31 October 2014 15:29 (eleven years ago)
Xpost "Temporary Custody of Garth Hudson" sounds like a Dylan tune from 1966.
― Jazzbo, Friday, 31 October 2014 15:46 (eleven years ago)
Overstock? Anticipating low sales out-the-gate? Given the NPR sneak-peak, unless the book is super fantastic, gonna buy this one second hand.
― bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 31 October 2014 18:57 (eleven years ago)
gaaaah this is so goooooooood
― I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 1 November 2014 23:50 (eleven years ago)
better sound quality than tree w/roots?
are any of the former partial songs there in full form?
$109 on pop market deal today
― There Goes Ryan's Scion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 November 2014 17:06 (eleven years ago)
yurrrgh, just starting in on disc one, this is the besssst. sound quality seems a little bit improved from tree with roots to me.
― tylerw, Monday, 3 November 2014 17:08 (eleven years ago)
I would say it's a bit better but not artificially cleaned up. When the original distorts or skips or whatever, they've done nothing to try to remove it. It's still a warts and all release.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 3 November 2014 17:13 (eleven years ago)
some of the super-wide stereo mixes on the bootlegs seem to have been centered a little bit. sounds a-ok to me so far.
― tylerw, Monday, 3 November 2014 17:16 (eleven years ago)
It's amazing. What we've been waiting for all these years.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 3 November 2014 17:22 (eleven years ago)
YOU DICKS!!!!!
i was trying to talk myself out of this :)
― There Goes Ryan's Scion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 November 2014 17:29 (eleven years ago)
lol. may just stop listening to anything other than this for the next few months... everybody down into the basement!
― tylerw, Monday, 3 November 2014 17:29 (eleven years ago)
but the Velvets box is nigh, too...
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 3 November 2014 17:32 (eleven years ago)
I know, right?
― sleeve, Monday, 3 November 2014 17:32 (eleven years ago)
don't buy it, just steal it, sony doesn't need your $125
the sound quality is much better in some cases, fairly better in others
if i'm not mistaken there are a handful of tracks i hadn't heard before
― I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2014 17:36 (eleven years ago)
yeah, something like 30 tracks that have never been bootlegged.
― tylerw, Monday, 3 November 2014 17:39 (eleven years ago)
the little mini-set of blowing in the wind, one too many mornings, satisfied mind and it ain't me babe is making me fantasize about what a Dylan/Band tour in 1967-8 would've been like.
― tylerw, Monday, 3 November 2014 22:17 (eleven years ago)
I can't imagine them taking this style to the stage. If they did it woulda been cool.
The Autoharp songs have never sounded anywhere near this good. I won't skip them anymore.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 3 November 2014 23:23 (eleven years ago)
yeah pretty impossible to imagine (aside from the isle of wight show maybe) exactly how they could've pulled off something so casual sounding in a live setting, especially given what a lightning rod dylan was in 67-68. doubtful the audience would have just relaxed and listened to the tunes. but i'd be curious to know if that's what they were doing with those reinvented tunes -- practicing for a potential live show?
― tylerw, Monday, 3 November 2014 23:27 (eleven years ago)
Somebody please be sure to describe the 30 prev unbootlegged tracks
― dow, Monday, 3 November 2014 23:48 (eleven years ago)