Nicki Minaj - The Pink Print (2014)

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they're gonna feel pretty dumb when they learn how she flipped their gaze

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link

i have come round to this as dj/mixshow tool (ie it sounded p fun when westwood gave it a v quick spin)

r|t|c, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link

the breakdown got people pretty excited at the drake/lil wayne show in boston the other night

maura, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:43 (nine years ago) link

just drake just sit onstage with a boner while they play the end of the song?

birdman junior dad (some dude), Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:47 (nine years ago) link

hahhaha no this was before the BATTLE ROYALE occurred

maura, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:49 (nine years ago) link

papiconda vs weenus

go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link

papiconda vs. wheetus

ra's al goole (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link

Prolego dude so far the only ppl into this (vid anyway)'re teenage girls and gay men ("sample" limited to here/aatwitter, so just maybe not accurate)

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Thursday, 28 August 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link

they're gonna feel pretty dumb when they learn how she flipped their gaze

― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, August 27, 2014 2:08 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 29 August 2014 01:24 (nine years ago) link

a+

SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 August 2014 01:48 (nine years ago) link

yeah i almost excelsiord that myself

you guys know that playing up to the male gaze and rejecting the male gaze are not mutually exclusive, right. the position of power that nicki does both those things from is the point. i for one love how she flips from "oh my god, look at her butt" to "stop looking at my ass" like they're both compatible! cuz she can and cuz they are.

lex pretend, Friday, 29 August 2014 08:25 (nine years ago) link

you know that I get that you can make that argument in theory but that in practice a performer screaming "FUCK THE SKINNY BITCHES IN THE CLUB" over a cover song doesn't necessarily merit a vigorous debate of intention vs action, right?

and that arguing that nicki's objective is subverting power dynamics in a song where she is repeatedly stating that she's "on some dumb shit" is... well, maybe not disingenuous but at the least indicative of a very selective way of appreciating the work?

i mean bully to you for getting something positive out of tanaconda lex but this sounds DOA to me and it's primarily cause nicki's verses are not so good, the production is outstandingly lazy and the various young money tics throughout are maddening
it's not so much that you're wrong so much as why bother in support of something this pedestrian

plus i would add don't forget fart remix subverts the subversion of the subverting subversiveness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv--npievoI

davey, Friday, 29 August 2014 10:51 (nine years ago) link

yeah, was really hoping that wouldn't show up here

Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Friday, 29 August 2014 12:45 (nine years ago) link

Whatever your opinion of this tune this song does actually. seem to be a success. Why is that? Is it just the video or does the actual song have anything to do with it?

Hinklepicker, Friday, 29 August 2014 13:03 (nine years ago) link

perfect storm: nicki, deathless sir mix track, catchy enough, papiconda, nicki's butt, teens, etc.

Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Friday, 29 August 2014 13:12 (nine years ago) link

it's the video

le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 29 August 2014 13:23 (nine years ago) link

or that

Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Friday, 29 August 2014 13:25 (nine years ago) link

actually "nicki's butt" is a more complete analysis since the song popped off the itunes downloads which in turn popped because of the single cover

le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 29 August 2014 13:51 (nine years ago) link

the song is pretty weak, imo, those who say it's a build-up to nothing are otm, it doesn't actually go anywhere

also i think she's saying "i'm not some dumb shit" rather than "i'm on some dumb shit"

marcos, Friday, 29 August 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link

song sounded like a hit the first time i heard it over dodgy wifi in a remote town square in romania. it's a bit of a mess structurally but since when has that mattered

forks' argument basically = "i don't like this so why are you analysing it" - i'm not usually one to really conflate success with importance but i think in the current pop climate it's certainly pushing back against a few things in a healthy way, and the fact that men are wanking over it doesn't really change that

lex pretend, Friday, 29 August 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link

wtf of course she's saying "i'm on some dumb shit"

Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Friday, 29 August 2014 14:16 (nine years ago) link

yep my mistake

marcos, Friday, 29 August 2014 14:19 (nine years ago) link

I like this song more every time I hear it but I like ice-t's "the girl tried to kill me" and other dumb shit like that

da croupier, Friday, 29 August 2014 14:29 (nine years ago) link

in the current pop climate it's certainly pushing back against a few things in a healthy way, and the fact that men are wanking over it doesn't really change that

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this song is really bad

ra's al goole (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 August 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link

the first out-of-context thing that popped into my head after reading that sentence was "bronies in a nutshell"

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Friday, 29 August 2014 15:09 (nine years ago) link

it's not really good but it's not really bad either. lots of it really, really works. it's the kind of thing that only improves with ubiquity, too - an embarrassment if it flops, the kind of thing you cave to when you hear it in the wild a lot. a bit like "starships" in that regard!

lex pretend, Friday, 29 August 2014 15:09 (nine years ago) link

okay I'm finally listening to this and this is some lazy mid-90s-Puffy-throwback shit

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Friday, 29 August 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link

the video and the pre-release hype from the single cover both contributed to its success. it started climbing rhythmic and urban radio charts rather quickly basically from the get-go, so it's not *just* the video making this song a success.

dyl, Friday, 29 August 2014 16:46 (nine years ago) link

i'm generally skeezed out by overt sexuality/pornographic imagery in music (obviously this is my problem, not the artist's) & i can't really comment on whether this song is actually profound or subversive, but i like nicki's rapping on it

example (crüt), Friday, 29 August 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link

xp think it's also the sir mix-a-lot sample. i mean fuckin EVERYBODY knows this tune. my uncle got married at age 50-something and his bride danced to that tune

marcos, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link

and my white brother-in-law who went to dartmouth knew every single word

marcos, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link

i for one love how she flips from "oh my god, look at her butt" to "stop looking at my ass"

nothing about this song or video says "stop looking at my ass" at all. jesus this is some next level apologetics even for you lex

een, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link

Personally, I prefered this's songs use of a "Baby Got Back" sample from earlier this year.

MarkoP, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link

I like it, but I was kind of bummed when I heard it that it's just that tiny sample over and over and over and over. I was hoping for something a little more, idk, imaginative. Maybe that's the wrong word but anyway it was kind of boring

SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 August 2014 18:03 (nine years ago) link

If anything the song could do with being filthier + more banging + less obviously cobbled together in 10mins.

nothing about this song or video says "stop looking at my ass" at all

I dunno, after a couple of minutes I got a bit bored and wanted to go and do something else.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 August 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link

I dunno, after a couple of minutes I got a bit bored and wanted to go and do something else.

So it's like aversion therapy?

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 29 August 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link

forks' argument basically = "i don't like this so why are you analysing it"

lex, my posts were in response to you hopping in after a series of eye rolling notes with "you guys understand that posing yourself as a sexual being is not incompatible with being a forward thinking feminist" which came off a bit patronizing. so my argument basically is that I think you're over-analyzing something that doesn't deserve your analysis (any more than the new Katy Perry / Riff Raff does) and framing your reasoning for taking the time to do so with an argument that doesn't feel entirely pertinent.

If you remove the video / single cover visuals, can you explain to me what crut refers to as inherently "profound or subversive" qualities of the song? cause to my ears is a big ball of exploitative dumb... which i generally have a soft spot for! There's just so little for me to find appealing here. you're right that i don't like anaconda at all. like to the very rare point where i think it is _objectively_ bad music. but then, that's how i feel about starships too.

i'm sure lex will be beyond delighted that he's being held accountable for my choice of words!

example (crüt), Friday, 29 August 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link

the hot 100 points are mostly because of the video

Following the release of its video on Aug. 19, "Anaconda" makes a 42-1 lunge on Streaming Songs with a 1,287 percent surge to 32.1 million streams; 95 percent of its total is from Vevo on YouTube. The overall sum is the highest since Miley Cyrus' "Wrecking Ball" drew 36.4 million streams (Sept. 28, 2013) following the first full week after its video premiered. The greatest streaming total since the chart launched on March 2, 2013, and the only other song (in addition to "Wrecking Ball") to tally more weekly streams than "Anaconda": Baauer's "Shake" peaked with 103 million (powered heavily by user-generated clips featuring the song's audio) the week that the survey debuted.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6229439/taylor-swift-shake-it-off-no-1-hot-100-nicki-minaj-anaconda

maura, Friday, 29 August 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link

like it probably would have been top 10, but definitely not ahead of the other song about butts in the top 5, without the video

maura, Friday, 29 August 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link

A song has to have a popular video to go #1 these days, right?

example (crüt), Friday, 29 August 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link

Meanwhile in Canada, it only got as high as 20 while "All About That Bass" took the number 2 spot.

MarkoP, Friday, 29 August 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link

How do the Canadian charts incorporate YouTube views?

example (crüt), Friday, 29 August 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link

it doesn't have to have a popular video necessarily, but being on youtube/vevo definitely helps, as they are the #1 streaming-music source in the us

maura, Friday, 29 August 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link

crut, i wasn't holding lex responsible for your words, but without putting your our anybody else's words in his mouth, I'm gathering he thinks there's something redemptive/meaningful going on with this track... and i've heard the same from a few other cultural critics but not had it explained, sans video, in a way that i follow

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Friday, 29 August 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link

this song is not interesting or fun or charming and if it's feminist, it's only in a negative sense of "flipping" tropes and doesn't model any kind of appealing view of gender dynamics. "fuck the skinny bitches in the club", seriously?

the dickering of salm on race (Treeship), Friday, 29 August 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link


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