Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

Haven't listened yet but that sounds like a Steve Gunn descriptor

i'm curious what DPG contributed. I recognize that kind of organ sound from his releases, I'm guessing that's it? Although the guitar sounds very much like him too.

How do I achieve something anywhere near that kind of fidelity with an mbox and garageband? What kind of settings at least put me in that direction? Anyone have tips?

Song sounds good, I think the run-time helps keep it from getting boring. Definitely interested to hear this album, it is the one that has a crazy amount of guest musicians, right?

Yeah it's a gorgeous track.

What's everyone's (who is relevant) recording set up?

mine is probably worse than yours - Blue Yeti USB mic & Audacity

How do I achieve something anywhere near that kind of fidelity with an mbox and garageband? What kind of settings at least put me in that direction? Anyone have tips?
― Evan, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 1:51 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you are using electric+amp right? if your mbox supports phantom power these microphones are decent and very affordable:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com//recording-microphone-packages/mxl-990-991-recording-microphone-package/273166000000000?src=3TEMORD

i'm no gearhead but i can get a very good sound with them with minimal post-eq/FX on electric and acoustic. used them for this video, which i think really sounds pretty awesome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF3VKeR7VVk

Great thanks! I've been thinking about picking up some good microphones.

Any experience with garageband as well? Part of my problem I think is just getting the levels correct and applying effects (tend to be pretty bass heavy when left alone)

i haven't used garageband a ton but it seems to be super easy but maybe not as "deep" as others
i have no problems with Audacity which is freeware

i also know you weren't asking for new shit to buy, so in that case, i'd just try as much as possible to not use garageband FX because they sound really plastic imo. but if you're DIing your guitar you're gonna lose a lot of color and tonality in general. do you do much EQing? (i don't remember the extent of garageband's EQ abilities)

see if you can acquire Ableton, it's really a huge step up from garageband. i found that i had to actually work around a lot of the features intended to make garageband easy to use. Ableton 9 in particular has a live waveform playing over the EQ while the track plays so you can actually see what your adjustments are doing, super helpful for someone who found the practice a bit obtuse and intangible prior

I may have ableton via the mbox. Or a version of protools. I just get a little overwhelmed trying to figure it out as I go. The obvious solution there for me is to look up a damn tutorial, so I might try that next time. Garageband is just familiar enough that I can quickly get set up.

Yeah I should resist the FX- though I feel like they're mostly just EQ presets no? I'll make sure I stick to doing it manually.

global's track is srsly badass. evan's is v cool too. among youse there's probably enough good stuff being produced for a dedicated 'fingerpickers of ilm' thread...

Well now I'm excited to re-record some of the pieces that I'm proud of correctly and I'll have something I'd be happy to contribute to a hypothetical thread like that.

Y'all could make a lil comp

I'll do the album art.

DEAL.

I will work so hard.

I'm very proud of my track "Kozy" still and want to re-record it. I would nominate it for inclusion.

New Dean McPhee track on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/deanmcphee/glass-hills

i am liking this track by global

also relevant to thread, i'm seeing michael chapman in a few weeks, steve gunn in a few days

and richard bishop in a few days too

nice!
kinda sad bishop dropped from old familiar chime fest but oh well

Wow, Chapman/Gunn/Bishop (with Tashi Dorji I imagine) all within a few weeks pretty awesome! Just found out that Steve Gunn is coming to Charlottesville with Mary Lattimore & Jeff Zeigler. Psyched for sure, only time I saw Gunn the sound was pretty bad and I couldn't really enjoy it too well.

any of you guys like RM Hubbert? scottish nylon-string player, kind of a parallel to some of the stuff ITT in that he's not fahey/takoma/blues/drone influenced really but he's an intrepid open-tuning explorer & v much coming from a rock/punk/underground background (toured w/ mogwai &c.) I don't love it, and it's mb a bit harmonically samey, but it's p distinctive, v melodic, traces of flamenco technique in his playing, endearingly rough round the edges

man how come none of these guys come up to VT/NH, you'd think ppl here would be nuts for it

You would think that maybe the Matt Valentine & EE connection would bring some folks, plus the hotbed around Western Mass., but maybe just too far North. I lived in Maine for a while and no one came up to Portland while I lived there, ended up being one of the reasons I moved (though there were many, Portland still rules).

Man McPhee is a weird one for me. He loses me quite a bit, it seems to be just pretty a lot of the time, but then there are parts like the last 5 minutes or so of this tune that I love. Pretty cool minimal slide/feedback that hits with a little more oomph (for me).

https://soundcloud.com/deanmcphee/cloud-forest

He is definitely a good player, and that new one posted above is pretty cool. I think the more minimal he goes the more I like him.

Nice! First track from the upcoming Nathan Bowles record has been pushed out to NPR. Tom Carter on acoustic and electric!

http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/08/27/343190918/vikings-choice-nathan-bowles-chuckatuck

like it!

"For the coda, Carter switches to the electric guitar for a regal solo that belongs more to the wandering English countryside (think Richard Thompson, then put some burn on it) than to the tidewater." ...uh richard thompson puts plenty of burn on it thanks

Hah yeah, that write-up was a little overcooked. Minus the little intro bit the banjo sounds pretty banjo-y (and not sitar-y) to me, but the Thompson +burn comment was especially unnecessary (I mean, I love Tom Carter's playing but his solo here is not overtly Thomspon-esque or even particularly virtuosic, just a nice enough outro solo). The best part of that whole write-up is the photo of Bowles, which is just great.

yeah song is great

ogomor - i'm digging RM Hubbert - sometimes the songs w/singing remind me of a folky Arab Strap

love the bowles track, very nice.

enjoying this one today which a friend passed along. mid 80s takoma-y duo. think if you liked that elkington/salsburg record from a few years back you'd like this.
http://rymimg.com/lk/f/a/bce2765b0cd63a2b49fa597596535549/4703134.jpg
some of it errs a little bit on the too pretty side of things, but there is plenty of great stuff happening. available on CD baby! http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/rcrandell2

Tyler- at the beginning of the thread you said "...or it sounds like run-of-the-mill indie movie soundtrack fodder" to describe something.

I've been in love with the Paris, Texas soundtrack ever since I saw the movie recently. What's everyone's thoughts? Does it have that same floats-out-the-window/merely-exists-as-background problem? Where is the line drawn between good/bad in this category? Other favorite is Bruce Langhorne's Hired Hand.

I really like Ry Cooder.

ha, i don't remember what i was referring to up there ... but it definitely wasn't paris texas or the hired hand! those are both totally classic imo.
maybe y'all have heard this, but this cooder collab is excellent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez-oEsg1uw0

Just listened to that on my carpool in this morning!

it's great! cooder could obviously have explored a more takoma-y career if he wanted to be even more obscure than he already is.

for sure

paris texas is a first rate soundtrack & suffers from usual soundtrack problems listening to it out of context, like a pared-down background version of blind willie johnson

track 3 of 'a meeting by the river', album linked above by tyler, is too good.

oh whoops I mised that we were talking about that record, it is totally fantastic. there's an old Forced Exposure writeup that notes the AAD recording.

everything on the Water Lily label rules

Went to my local record store to hang a flier for me & global's show on the 11th & snagged a sealed copy of all is falling by hand blackshaw on clearance for $13

finally decided to make my way through Sir Richard Bishop's discography, out of order, respectively.. at least everything he has put up at deliradio.com. only two albums in and fuck I'm excited. it's been too long since i've checked out new music to be honest, life has gotten in the way where i've just been running old shit into the ground over and over. i love Improvika as it's all unaccompanied steel string playing. accessible and probably enjoyable to everyone here; so if you haven't yet, you should. but who am i kidding though, i'm probably the only one who has been lazy towards his output.

just found this surfin around on soundcloud:

https://nathangolub.bandcamp.com/album/ellerbee-river-blues

https://soundcloud.com/jakubsimansky/bloodbackovo-blues

doesn't do much to dissuade me from the thought that kaki king is kinda gimmicky....buuuut
i kinda wanna see this

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/469596960/kaki-king-the-neck-is-a-bridge-to-the-body

Just wanted to say cheers for the Denver recommendations, Tyler - found me some lovely records and had the time of my life. My wallet (and liver) are in terminal decline.

Currently listening to the stream of Steve Palmer's Unblinking Sun, which is great - pretty much as described: Takoma meets Neu! http://first-listen.com/steve-palmer/
Is Dying for Bad Music run by someone on here, or am I going daft?

Got my hands on the new Steve Gunn and Nathan Bowles records, both of which are sounding majestic. Listened to the Gunn more and he seems to be totally inhabiting the wandering ghost of JJ Cale - a Cale that wandered off into the wilderness in 1976 or so. Lovely, lovely stuff and might be the best thing he's done.

no DFBM isn't someone on ilm but steve is :)