Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

awesome jam!!!
you have entered space metal territory :)

haha never woulda thought to associate metal with that, but i kinda like that. grandavis, i'm just in that stage where i'm second-guessing every little decision i made, so that could be part of it.

like this band has expansive krautrocky jams and they get lumped into the metal bin but they don't sound partic metal to me http://follakzoid.bandcamp.com/album/ii-2
your song def has some hawkwind in it though!

Thanks grandavis and global! It was literally an improv which is why it falls apart briefly after the midway point ha. If it were an actual "piece" I would have hit re-record a thousand times. Desperately trying to be a little more comfortable with mistakes and imperfection. Hoping it'll make recording less of a rare activity by inflicting psychological training tricks on myself.

Just jumping into global's track now!

Oh yeah, and I'm just so constantly bothered by my inability to find the right settings in garageband (with the m-box) to recreate the sound of my actual amp. I'd be MUCH more proud of it if it had that sound- individual notes don't muddy together as much. This last recording I did upon re-listening almost sounds like strumming in parts! Was not intended.

Also all of this pickiness can be attributed to a nice dosing of Dunning–Kruger effect I'm sure but even so it really truly does sound much much better out of my real amp.

global that jam is perfect. I love it.

yeah dude, that is really good.

and yours, too Evan! digging it.

y'all seriously this is my favorite thread on ilx at this present moment
it's full of encouragement, top notch jams, nice people, and no bs
bless you all

That's for sure! Been that way since the beginning.

And thanks tyler.

Apologies for all of the nervous confessional ranting every time I post a song- in reality I'm trying to calibrate your expectations with excuses so I can I'm maintain my own ego as a player. You've all been so nice I appreciate it.

<3 this thread. feel like this album of mine is very much 'of' this thread, like it wouldn't have existed without being able to lurk on here for, what, years now. yikes!

this follkazoid band is rad also

Hah I mean obviously I am not unbiased but I think I do not generally blow smoke up people's butts either. I can say in all honesty that I think Global's track, your new improv Evan, and UMS's last tune are all good listens. Would jam them if I didn't know you folks from here. Look forward to hearing some collabs with La Lechera beats too.

I got some new things for my bday so I can make a lot of new sounds -- I got brushes, a little hi hat tambourine, and a shaker that attaches to the drumstick so i can do accents and regular hits (strokes? whatever) at the same time. I'm still working hard.

drumming is hard work! i know i said i'd have your beat back to you with a song soon, but i keep futzing around with it. it'll happen though!

i could send you something better if you want! every time i send someone something, like a week later i could do it at least somewhat better. i guess that's normal, right?
right now i am dreaming of covering "wo bist du" because i think i've got the drum part down and i think it would sound cooooooooooool with some extended noodling and also popol vuh <3 <3 <3

Hah completely normal. Keep it up!

new Hayden Pedigo track (w/ Danny Paul Grody!) is awesome. really excited for the release:

https://soundcloud.com/debacle-records/hayden-pedigo-stray-feat-danny-paul-grody/s-YQgxk

wow that is gorgeous
such a beautiful recording

it's amazing because it's centered on one lick/progression, but it doesn't ever feel boring or staid at any point. it feels very fully realized

Haven't listened yet but that sounds like a Steve Gunn descriptor

i'm curious what DPG contributed. I recognize that kind of organ sound from his releases, I'm guessing that's it? Although the guitar sounds very much like him too.

How do I achieve something anywhere near that kind of fidelity with an mbox and garageband? What kind of settings at least put me in that direction? Anyone have tips?

Song sounds good, I think the run-time helps keep it from getting boring. Definitely interested to hear this album, it is the one that has a crazy amount of guest musicians, right?

Yeah it's a gorgeous track.

What's everyone's (who is relevant) recording set up?

mine is probably worse than yours - Blue Yeti USB mic & Audacity

How do I achieve something anywhere near that kind of fidelity with an mbox and garageband? What kind of settings at least put me in that direction? Anyone have tips?
― Evan, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 1:51 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you are using electric+amp right? if your mbox supports phantom power these microphones are decent and very affordable:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com//recording-microphone-packages/mxl-990-991-recording-microphone-package/273166000000000?src=3TEMORD

i'm no gearhead but i can get a very good sound with them with minimal post-eq/FX on electric and acoustic. used them for this video, which i think really sounds pretty awesome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF3VKeR7VVk

Great thanks! I've been thinking about picking up some good microphones.

Any experience with garageband as well? Part of my problem I think is just getting the levels correct and applying effects (tend to be pretty bass heavy when left alone)

i haven't used garageband a ton but it seems to be super easy but maybe not as "deep" as others
i have no problems with Audacity which is freeware

i also know you weren't asking for new shit to buy, so in that case, i'd just try as much as possible to not use garageband FX because they sound really plastic imo. but if you're DIing your guitar you're gonna lose a lot of color and tonality in general. do you do much EQing? (i don't remember the extent of garageband's EQ abilities)

see if you can acquire Ableton, it's really a huge step up from garageband. i found that i had to actually work around a lot of the features intended to make garageband easy to use. Ableton 9 in particular has a live waveform playing over the EQ while the track plays so you can actually see what your adjustments are doing, super helpful for someone who found the practice a bit obtuse and intangible prior

I may have ableton via the mbox. Or a version of protools. I just get a little overwhelmed trying to figure it out as I go. The obvious solution there for me is to look up a damn tutorial, so I might try that next time. Garageband is just familiar enough that I can quickly get set up.

Yeah I should resist the FX- though I feel like they're mostly just EQ presets no? I'll make sure I stick to doing it manually.

global's track is srsly badass. evan's is v cool too. among youse there's probably enough good stuff being produced for a dedicated 'fingerpickers of ilm' thread...

Well now I'm excited to re-record some of the pieces that I'm proud of correctly and I'll have something I'd be happy to contribute to a hypothetical thread like that.

Y'all could make a lil comp

I'll do the album art.

DEAL.

I will work so hard.

I'm very proud of my track "Kozy" still and want to re-record it. I would nominate it for inclusion.

New Dean McPhee track on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/deanmcphee/glass-hills

i am liking this track by global

also relevant to thread, i'm seeing michael chapman in a few weeks, steve gunn in a few days

and richard bishop in a few days too

nice!
kinda sad bishop dropped from old familiar chime fest but oh well

Wow, Chapman/Gunn/Bishop (with Tashi Dorji I imagine) all within a few weeks pretty awesome! Just found out that Steve Gunn is coming to Charlottesville with Mary Lattimore & Jeff Zeigler. Psyched for sure, only time I saw Gunn the sound was pretty bad and I couldn't really enjoy it too well.

any of you guys like RM Hubbert? scottish nylon-string player, kind of a parallel to some of the stuff ITT in that he's not fahey/takoma/blues/drone influenced really but he's an intrepid open-tuning explorer & v much coming from a rock/punk/underground background (toured w/ mogwai &c.) I don't love it, and it's mb a bit harmonically samey, but it's p distinctive, v melodic, traces of flamenco technique in his playing, endearingly rough round the edges

man how come none of these guys come up to VT/NH, you'd think ppl here would be nuts for it

You would think that maybe the Matt Valentine & EE connection would bring some folks, plus the hotbed around Western Mass., but maybe just too far North. I lived in Maine for a while and no one came up to Portland while I lived there, ended up being one of the reasons I moved (though there were many, Portland still rules).

Man McPhee is a weird one for me. He loses me quite a bit, it seems to be just pretty a lot of the time, but then there are parts like the last 5 minutes or so of this tune that I love. Pretty cool minimal slide/feedback that hits with a little more oomph (for me).

https://soundcloud.com/deanmcphee/cloud-forest

He is definitely a good player, and that new one posted above is pretty cool. I think the more minimal he goes the more I like him.

Nice! First track from the upcoming Nathan Bowles record has been pushed out to NPR. Tom Carter on acoustic and electric!

http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/08/27/343190918/vikings-choice-nathan-bowles-chuckatuck