Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

j. you're talking about the Bathetic release right? agree with global that 'up and down the c&o' as well as 'blue mass' satisfies my drone wants and needs. but j. you defiantly outta also check out the other recent vinyl release on the label Lancashire and Somerset. it's a self titled album, streamable here:

https://lancashireandsomerset.bandcamp.com/album/daniel-bachman

the tracks that make up this mostly come from small run cassette releases and a tour CDr. these side releases are where you'll find the gnarly stuff, if you yearn for much more experimental recordings.

two other 'you-should-check-this-out-if-you-havent' things i posted on my blog a while back, i recommend the Ian McColm collaboration the most.

Daniel Bachman & Ian McColm
http://broadcastsfrompoorfarm.tumblr.com/#47377163306

2013 Tour Cdr
http://broadcastsfrompoorfarm.tumblr.com/page/2#41685941730

kinda outside this threads topic, but kinda not, are all drone tapes scattered across the blog too, i don't know if there has been any talk of Housecraft/Stunned/Tranquility Tapes/Sean McCann drone here at ILX lately but i'm sure there's others in the Brigade that dig that stuff too.

i say it's not too far out of this thread bc of guys like Evan Miller who did a couple guitar cassettes for Night People and then went on to do much more drone oriented and he maybe even modular stuff at some point too? i can't remember

*recorded modular stuff

Evan Miller - Transfigurations On Lap-Steel Guitar
http://www.discogs.com/Evan-Miller-Transfigurations-On-Lap-Steel-Guitar/release/1644911

fucking awesome album there, this one came out after his straight forward guitar albums (which were damn good in their own right) and is all experiments with lap-steel, recommended

Thanks Neal, some of that stuff sounds right up my alley! I love that Ian McColm & D. Bachman tape, definitely a different side of his playing (i.e., the clouds of drone effect). Plus Ian is a really good young player. Maybe Daniel will have that Lancashire & Sunset release next time I see him play.

Gonna try to hit up that Evan Miller stuff for sure.

Oops, Lancashire & Somerset. Man, people just lining up to put out those Bachman releases. Three Lobed has already announced that they have a 2015 release planned. Maybe that will be a dip back into the drone waters.

been listening to Welcomed Wherever I Go by Glenn Jones more (the record store day EP)....it's really wonderful...my favorite song is "From a Forgotten Session", just a gorgeous song

but i'm almost frustrated, it's hilarious in the liner notes he said..."I came across this unmarked CD-R that had 2 versions of this song on it and I had no memory of recording it, then I finally remember we finished this Jack Rose session early and I just did it on the spot...I think I was upset with some mistakes or got bored with the song and never did anything with it, but I like it more now"

and like honestly if I wrote and played that song it would by far be the best thing I could ever do and I would insist everyone I knew ever heard it etc and he's like "oh yeah this old thing" gtfo Glenn :)

Gonna get that Jones record at some point. But man don't worry, you have 15-20 years of playing to get to the stage where you are just gonna toss away your gems like Glenn apparently does.

It's been almost 25 years since the first Cul De Sac album! How times flies, etc.

Whoa yeah, crazy that I have known of Glenn Jones since the mid-90s and am most excited by what he is doing now (though I like it all!). Inspirational for those of us chugging away, cause he wasn't so young when Cul De Sac started either.

Three Lobed just announced two of the members of the cobbled together "Little Black Egg big band": Steve Gunn & William Tyler! Not sure those two have ever played together in an official capacity, but if they mix the Desert Heat-style jamming with William's full-band style from his recent EP then I am psyched! I mean, I am excited to see whatever they do cause I can't imagine that it wonn't be damn good.

damn that sounds good

well holy shit!
http://deliradio.com/sir-richard-bishop

oomph

anyone want to help me navigate that discography?

i am no expert - i love polytheistic fragments (which is pretty in keeping with this thread)...i also love freak of araby which is basically imagine the Ventures as some arty middle eastern influenced surf band

I loved the "Salvador Kali" record back in the day, but I haven't heard it in ages (it came out in 98 or something). Excited to revisit!

!!!!

http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/08/20/341603683/vikings-choice-chris-forsyth-the-solar-motel-band-i-aint-waiting?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nprmusic&utm_term=music&utm_content=20140820

good news day!

the Ventures as some arty middle eastern influenced surf band
yessss

also i look forward to new solar motel band track but is it possible for ppl to spell POPOL VUH correctly?!

Sounding very Television-ish here. The descending scale runs etc. sound a lot like the pre-chorus bridge/section from "Marquee Moon", which is of course the reference in the name and a big Forsyth touchstone etc. etc. Cool sounding song, and I imagine the most subdued/straightforward thing on the upcoming record.

omg this solar motel band song, i remember loving this one at the show....so gorgeous

yeah this is great, and verrrrry television. i was hoping this track would be the longer more chunky riff-rocker they played because I LOVED that one, (i don't recall the name or if it had one). they sound checked with it and played it, think it was the last of the main set. oh well, got my pre-order in! hope they tour again soon. maybe this release'll give them a bit of a boost profile-wise

i wonder if it was one of those things where they wrote it and were like "man this is sooo television" but then sometimes the song is so good you can't deny it and figured fuck it let's just make the title a reference, too good to cut

Nothing wrong with an homage/run through a classic sound. Probably came about exactly like you suggest though. I mean, dude took lessons straight from Lloyd, not sure he is worried about the cop at all.

I made a comment about it having a very TV-ish feel in re the scales etc. and he responded with "G Major".

originality is hard as fuck especially in an internet age, and i think it's also sort of overrated imo, recontextualization and reinterpretation are legit too

agree

take different pieces and put them together differently and it's a novelty/originality of its own
like eno style

I mean, one of the new songs I saw in February reminded me of "Presence"-era Zeppelin, which is completely fine by me. These guys mix plenty of unique approaches into the mix of influences/sounds, they have nothing to apologize for at all.

Pretty good video of Tashi Dorji here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=x8MJE6a7ZAA

Playing a nylon string too.

i really hate this style of acoustic guitar playing, i don't know what you call it...that real percussive picking w/nylon strings and then SLAP TAP on the soundboard, is that post-hedges? post ani difranco? so much of this shit on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i459z2NAAXc

Ah yes- I was trying to explain how that style reminded me of cheesy frat dude guitar players in college or how it matches scott's "old man hat" singers to some guys at the record shop I used to manage and they didn't get what I meant. So I thought maybe it was just one of my personal bitter associations (and I have many), but I can't hear guitar playing like that and not think of white dudes with dreads playing under posters of Bob Marley & Dave Matthews.

yeah dave matthews rhythm stuff is like that too

i literally don't think you can even play that style on a guitar that costs less than a grand, the cheap guitar will reject it

http://www.kemptation.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Newton-Faulkner-Shepherds-Bush-002.jpg

it's so horrible. there's a whole record label for that treacle, Candyrat records. Don't say I didn't warn ya

haha i actually spent a day on candyrat's site upthread a long time ago

yeah Newton Faulkner remains my primary association with that kind of thing. I hear it, think of him, and get angry that he continues to occupy a fairly prominent place in my brain.

haha perhaps we've been down this road before. oh well, sometimes it's fun to hate stuff.

this guy is the main current offender. and i'd def blame hedges and possibly alex de grassi. shmaltz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddn4MGaS3N4

i mean, it looks like it makes him very happy to play music like this, but

lol posting this one just for the thumbnail of the ridiculous guitar that will show up-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvar4ZsqsEo

ha
his fingers are in a funny position too

is he in the middle of a slap? or a tap?

i got the spelling fixed on the npr thing hehehe

Oh wow!! That silly looking guitar video is the exact one my former co-worker was watching when I said upthread that I started complaining! Of all the percussive acoustic videos on the net...

The main problem is, like "jam bands", this kind of playing seems to exist explicitly in order to nerd out about proficiency, forcing the actual melodies and atmosphere to take a backseat. As a result they end up fitting better as a soundtrack to an elevator ride than actually inspiring any emotion or depth musically.

my feeling was that these guys do care about the melody but invariably have a very maudlin taste for it, but on reflection yeah that kind of poor aesthetic judgement probably stems from it being very secondary in their practice.

i don't even hate chopsy playing all that much, i probably like some lamer stuff than a lot in this thread but yeah....god the actual technique...that WACK!-rolloff thing produces this kind of pinched choppy rhythmic quality that really grates on me, i can't even describe it...and yeah obv the melodies can be way saccharine

the gross plasticky tone gets to me too, are these £2k guitars really supposed to sound like that?

What the hell happened to the thread? Damn, I need to go listen to some Fushitsusha now or something, gotta get that sound outta my head.

we got complacent in our little post-fahey utopia, forgot that every thread goes to shit in the end

I work for a guitar company and so many people here love that type of playing. Tried to turn the &uild product manager on to Blackshaw since he usually exclusively plays &uild 12 strings but he was like "oh yeah hmm this is pretty good, reminds me of this one awesome youtube player guy......... andy mckee, you heard of him?"

Anyway I bought a really nice &uild 12 string a few weeks back and am looking forward to learning finger-style playing. M@tt you were my inspiration! You're the meaning in my life!

Let it be noted that UMS started the thread down this dark path, as well as created it. We are at the mercy of a fickle overlord ....