maybe it is best to think about this list in a high school / college career/generation kind of way. like, kidz who were so sQUARE four years ago will now need to have a solid idea of how much to like grimes, etc going forward in their new social endeavors
― j., Monday, 18 August 2014 14:19 (nine years ago) link
Didn't they do something similar around the same time in 2004? Maybe that's why the timing is strange.
― Evan, Monday, 18 August 2014 14:30 (nine years ago) link
xxxxp supercell wuz robbed
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 August 2014 14:31 (nine years ago) link
They waited till February of 2005 to do their 2000-2004 list.
But apparently waiting a few months to do such a list is so last decade.
― MarkoP, Monday, 18 August 2014 14:32 (nine years ago) link
everyone complaining about the timing of this list would also be complaining if this was done six months later, let's not pretend
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 18 August 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link
Damn why you gotta call lex out
― 龜, Monday, 18 August 2014 14:42 (nine years ago) link
timing of this list in pretty bad taste, what with Lauren Bacall's death just last week
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Monday, 18 August 2014 14:43 (nine years ago) link
200. Father John Misty - Hollywood Forever Cemetery Sings199. Lindstrom & Christabelle - Lovesick198. Migos - Versace197. Purity Ring - Fineshrine196. The Men - Bataille195. Rihanna - Only Girl (In the World)194. Blawan - Getting Me Down193. Jay Electronica - Exhibit C192. Addison Groove - Footcrab191. Chvrches - The Mother We Share
190. Ty Segall Band - I Bought My Eyes189. Best Coast - When I'M With You188. Rhye - The Fall187. Florence and the Machine - Shake It Out186. Skrillex - Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites185. Bon Iver - Perth184. Parquet Courts - Stoned and Starving183. Yo La Tengo - Ohm182. Kavinsky - Nightcall feat. Lovefoxxx181. Schoolboy Q - There He Go
180. Kelala - Bank Head179. AraabMuzik - Streetz Tonight178. Ty Dolla $ign - Paranoid feat. Joe Moses177. Mac DeMarco - Passing Out Places176. Jessie Ware - Running (Disclosure Remix)175. Jamie xx - Far Nearer174. Arcade Fire - Reflektor173. Phosphorescent - Song For Zula172. Earl Sweatshirt - Earl171. Janelle Monáe - Tightrope feat. Big Boi
170. Grizzly Bear - Sleeping Ute169. Taylor Swift - We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together168. Lil B - Wonton Soup167. King Krule/Zoo Kid - out Getting Ribs166. Haim - Falling165. Majical Cloudz - Childhood's End164. Fucked Up - Queen of Hearts163. Young Thug - Danny Glover162. Big Boi - Shine Blockas feat. Gucci Mane161. Tame Impala - Solitude is Bliss
160. Jeremih - 773 Love159. Ab-Soul - The Book of Soul158. Arcade Fire - Ready to Start157. Titus Andronicus - A More Perfect Union156. Disclosure - Help Me Lose My Mind feat. London Grammar155. Meek Mill - Dreams and Nightmares (Intro)154. Savages - Husbands153. Chief Keef - Love Sosa152. Gorillaz - On Melancholy Hill151. James Blake - Retrograde
150. Dirty Projectors - Gun Has No Trigger149. Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Only In My Dreams148. Rick Ross - BMF (Blowin' Money Fast) feat. Styles P147. Rich Kidz - My Life feat. Waka Flocka Flame146. Kurt Vile - Jesus Fever145. Tune-Yards - Powa144. Miguel - Do You143. Fiona Apple - Every Single Night142. Ciara - Ride feat. Ludacris141. Kreyshawn - Gucci Gucci
140. Jacques Green - Another Girl139. DJ Khaled - I'm On One feat. Drake, Rick Ross and Lil Wayne138. Soulja Boy - Zan With That Lean137. Erykah Badu - Window Seat136. Gang Gang Dance - Glass Jar135. Kendrick Lamar - ADHD134. Jessie Ware - 110%133. ASAP Rocky - Fuckin' Problems feat. 2 Chainz, Drake and Kendrick Lamar132. War on Drugs - Under the Pressure131. Miley Cyrus - We Can't Stop
130. ASAP Ferg - Shabba feat. ASAP Rocky129. Nicki Minaj - Come on a Cone128. Sleigh Bells - Rill Rill127. Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues126. Cloud Nothings - Stay Useless125. Todd Terje - Snooze 4 Love124. Frank Ocean - Novacane123. Future Islands - Seasons (Waiting On You)122. Beyoncé - 1+1121. Courtney Barnett - Avant Gardner
120. Janelle Monáe - Cold War119. Future - Same Damn Time118. Le1f - Wut117. Perfect Pussy - I116. Four Tet - Angel Echoes115. Chance the Rapper - Juice114. Blood Orange - You're Not Good Enough feat. Samantha Urbani113. FKA twigs - Water Me112. Real Estate - Green Aisles111. DJ Rashad - I Don't Give a Fuck
110. The National - Bloodbuzz Ohio109. Earl Sweatshirt - Chum108. Girls - Vomit107. Arcade Fire - Afterlife106. Kendrick Lamar - Backstreet Freestyle105. James Blake - CMYK104. Burial - Kindred103. Killer Mike - Big Beast feat. Bun B, T.I., and Trouble102. Kurt Vile - Wakin on a Pretty Day101. Schoolboy Q - Hands on the Wheel feat. ASAP Rocky
100. Andrés - New For U99. John Maus - Believer98. Chromatics - Kill For Love97. Sun Kil Moon - I Watched The Film the Song Remains The Same96. Danny Brown - 3095. Chairlift - I Belong in Your Arms94. Icona Pop - I Love It feat. Charli XCX93. Caribou - Can't Do Without You92. Japandroids - Younger Us91. Sky Ferreira - I Blame Myself
90. Tame Impala - Apocalypse Dreams89. Crystal Castles - Celestica88. Vampire Weekend - Step87. Bill Callahan - Small Plane86. The Weeknd - The Morning85. Jai Paul - BTSTU (Edit)84. Burial - Street Halo83. Drake - Started from the Bottom82. LCD Soundsystem - All I Want81. TNGHT - Higher Ground
80. Lana Del Rey - Video Games79. Blawan - Why They Hide Their Bodies Under My Garage78. The Knife - Full of Fire77. Destroyer - Chinatown76. Kanye West - Blood on the Leaves75. Beach House - Myth74. Grimes - Genesis73. Big Boi - Shutterbugg72. Nicki Minaj - Beez in the Trap feat. 2 Chainz71. Fiona Apple - Werewolf
70. James Blake - Limit To Your Love69. St. Vincent - Cruel68. Chief Keef - I Don't Like feat. Lil Reese67. War on Drugs - Red Eyes66. Lorde - Royals65. Caribou - Odessa64. FKA twigs - Two Weeks63. Girl Unit - Wut62. Joanna Newsom - Good Intentions Paving Company61. ASAP Rocky - Peso
60. Future - Turn on the Lights59. Adele - Rolling in the Deep58. Haim - The Wire57. Death Grips - I've Seen Footage56. Sophie - Bipp55. Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe54. Andy Stott - Numb53. Tyler, the Creator - Yonkers52. Deafheaven - Dreamhouse51. Kanye West - New Slaves
50. EMA - California49. Drake - Marvins Room48. Bon Iver - Holocene47. Rihanna - We Found Love feat. Calvin Harris46. Frank Ocean - Thinkin Bout You45. Mac DeMarco - Ode to Viceroy44. Beyoncé - Drunk in Love feat. Jay-Z43. Destroyer - Bay of Pigs42. Cass McCombs - County Line41. Waka Flocka Flame - Hard in Da Paint
40. The-Dream - Yamaha39. Ciara - Body Party38. Bat For Lashes - Laura37. Deerhunter - Desire Lines36. Jay-Z & Kanye West - Niggas in Paris35. Katy Perry - Teenage Dream34. Crystal Castles - Not In Love feat. Robert Smith33. Miguel - Adorn32. Jai Paul - Jasmine (Demo)31. Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)
30. Autre Ne Veut - Play by Play29. Robyn - Call Your Girlfriend28. Japandroids - The House That Heaven Built27. MIA - Bad Girls26. Vampire Weekend - Hannah Hunt25. Disclosure - Latch feat. Sam Smith24. Drake - Worst Behavior23. Solange - Losing You22. Arcade Fire - Sprawl II (Mountains Beyond Mountains)21. Real Estate - It's Real
20. Daft Punk - Get Lucky feat. Pharrell19. Beach House - Zebra18. Kanye West - Monster feat. Justin Vernon, Rick Ross, Jay-Z and Nicki Minaj17. LCD Soundsystem - Dance Yrself Clean16. Todd Terje - Inspector Norse15. Nicki Minaj - Super Bass feat. Ester Dean14. Sky Ferreira - Everything is Embarrassing13. Usher - Climax12. Beyoncé - Countdown11. Tame Impala - Feel Like We Only Go Backwards
10. Drake - Hold On We're Going Home09. Deerhunter - Helicopter08. Frank Ocean - Pyramids07. Azealia Banks - 212 feat. Lazy Jay06. Robyn - Dancing On My Own05. Kendrick Lamar - Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe04. M83 - Midnight City03. Kanye West - Runaway feat. Pusha T02. Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Round and Round01. Grimes - Oblivion
― Number None, Monday, 18 August 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link
the beauty of 'so far' is, when in the decade would it NOT work, except the actual end
they should set up a sub-site that just always says what the best tracks so far are
of all years and all decades
through all history
so far
― j., Monday, 18 August 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link
"Runaway" is still a shitty song
― some dude, Monday, 18 August 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link
when are we as a nation going to rise up and stop encouraging ariel pink
― maura, Monday, 18 August 2014 14:51 (nine years ago) link
I'm still amazed "Pyramids" ranks so high, especially when "Thinking About You" exists.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 August 2014 14:52 (nine years ago) link
japandroids, the band too boring to be emo
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 18 August 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link
what a horrible top 10. EXCEPT AZEALIA BANKS!!!!!
― lex pretend, Monday, 18 August 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link
I genuinely thought the collective delusion that MBDTF is good would have disappeared by now
― Number None, Monday, 18 August 2014 14:55 (nine years ago) link
i never feel more alien than when explaining to people that i think "runaway" is the worst kanye west single
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 18 August 2014 14:58 (nine years ago) link
I swear p4k never even justify why they like it - they only ever seem to go on about kanye's celebrity and what it represents for our time xp
― prolego, Monday, 18 August 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link
when are we as a nation going to rise up and stop encouraging ariel pink― maura, Monday, August 18, 2014 10:51 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― maura, Monday, August 18, 2014 10:51 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
dude has made some great music, isn't the first time a total asshole made good music
― marcos, Monday, 18 August 2014 15:01 (nine years ago) link
The Kids still love MBDTF; it's like asking them why they love American Gangster.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link
no one on earth would say that american gangster is the best movie of all time
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:03 (nine years ago) link
Asshole or not is not the point. The problem with the Ariel Pinks and War on Drugs to my ears is how their professed admiration for seventies studio rock clashes with their bedsit sensibilities.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:04 (nine years ago) link
to be clear I meant the album not the movie
Sudden visions of MBDTF as the Kid A of the '10s.
― jaymc, Monday, 18 August 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link
MBDTF is 100% the kid a of the '10s
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:06 (nine years ago) link
alfred otm
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:07 (nine years ago) link
Actual top 3 are:
Sun Kil Moon: AlesundCass McCombs: County LineGlenn Jones - Bergen County Farewell
― Evan, Monday, 18 August 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link
I do love "County Line."
It's true that many of these blurbs are well written.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:09 (nine years ago) link
hands up everyone who saw "Gucci Gucci", lolled, and them immediately scrolled down to confirm that deej was the person writing about it
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:10 (nine years ago) link
i don't care that ap is an asshole, i care that he resides too far up his own to make anything listenable
― maura, Monday, 18 August 2014 15:11 (nine years ago) link
when i talk to (young) ppl about why they think mbdtf is so good the response is basically always: the production is incredible and it transcends regular rap b/c bon iver elton john and the orchestra etc. then i scream.
― prolego, Monday, 18 August 2014 15:11 (nine years ago) link
yeah i was like "it's like a miniature ilx thread"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link
but Late Registration had Jon Brion and Adam Levine! Graduation had Chris Martin!
xpost
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:14 (nine years ago) link
my GTFO moment was seeing "Blood on the Leaves"
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:19 (nine years ago) link
Looking at this list you do get the sense that, if you overlook the fact they're more amenable to hip-hop and R&B and some dance music than they used to be, Pitchfork have basically been repping almost exactly the same broad aesthetic for the best part of 15 years. Seeing Yo La Tengo and Bill Callaghan and Ariel Pink and whoever in there alongside Bon Iver and the Arcade Fire does make me yearn for the days of build-them-up-knock-them-down.
Nothing makes less sense to me than the inclusion of two (!) Jai Paul tracks.
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 August 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link
Like there's loads of good stuff in here but you still get the sense that the comfort zone is still basically The Soft Bulletin and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 August 2014 15:22 (nine years ago) link
a jai paul demo placing above "adorn" even
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:22 (nine years ago) link
i'm glad yeezus exists because MBDTF really made talking about kanye insufferable for a minute there, i mean the idea that "monster" is better than "mercy" for instance........
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:22 (nine years ago) link
It's pretty hilarious how much of a reputation Jai Paul has managed to build by not releasing music. The guy is some kind of genius
― Number None, Monday, 18 August 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link
25 year olds who rate MBDTF as the best kanye album make me want to rip my hair out but i'm not sure you can really blame 18 or 20 year olds for connecting more w/ that album than one that came out in 2005
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:24 (nine years ago) link
man, "midnight city" could still use an actual chorus
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:24 (nine years ago) link
Should have stuck Joe Lean and the Jing Jang Jong in there for the same reason.
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 August 2014 15:25 (nine years ago) link
more that stuff outside the comfort zone is entirely dependent on non-musical image, sense of importance, positioning and so on, to the extent of being even more wholly predictable
― lex pretend, Monday, 18 August 2014 15:25 (nine years ago) link
matt dc, really? Indie rock (depending how inclusive you want to be with that term) is outnumbered by at least 3-to-1 in the top 20.
― skip, Monday, 18 August 2014 15:25 (nine years ago) link
~MYSTIQUE
― skip, Monday, August 18, 2014 11:25 AM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark
i actually think it's bent back the other way a bit. go back and look at the top 20 of the 00-04 list
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link
feels like we only go backwards
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link
It was more an observation at how little their idea of indie rock has moved on in that time really. I know Pitchfork helped popularise this particular aesthetic so it makes sense they'd hang onto it but you could zap a lot of those bands back in time to 2000 and very few of them would seem anachronistic.
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 August 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link
good point J0rdan - the only rock tracks in that one were Maps, Fell in Love with a Girl and Pyramid Song.
― skip, Monday, 18 August 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link
but also pop from 10-14 is much worse than pop from 00-04 so it's sort of a chicken & egg thing
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link
there is definitely a divide between their rankings of tracks vs albums - much more rock in the album list.
― skip, Monday, 18 August 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link