Deafheaven

yeah yeah I like Lantlos' beefier take on this particular sound. I highly rate the album they released this year too

Krallice are awesome and I def rank them over Deafheaven. I tend to put them in this category though: Search: Metal that Sounds Like Glenn Branca.

yyy, krallice gives me a bit of a live skull vibe iirc

oooof never heard darkspace before that's bloody intense. I will have to investigate further when I'm in a position to play it really fucking loud. Points off for corpsepaint though.

Also I like how we're mostly talking about anyone other than DH now heheheheh

m8 the entirety of dark III is on youtube. go there urgently. imo it is one of the greatest metal albums

Yeah y'know what fuck it, I was highly impressed so I'll do just that

Opinions on the new single?: https://soundcloud.com/adultswimsingles/from-the-kettle-to-the-coil

I'm not really sure what to make of it yet.

Are we not freaking out and jumping off of rooftops over the new one?

https://soundcloud.com/antirecords/deafheaven-brought-to-the-water

I've really been enjoying it!

wait so it was a joke there's not really a kokomo cover

Yes but the whole album is a concept album about Ibiza, it's balearic black metal y'all

I like the new song.

Yup, me too!

Starts out not sounding like them, but over the course of the song becomes more recognizably them. Sounds okay, but I burned out quickly on their last album, and kind of figure the same thing would happen here.

The drummer loves his two-kick and snare triplets

In laymen's terms that means what?

Probably something different from bitchy internet metal drummer terms. Or he's really into Cuban music?

(Seriously, dudes go off about how someone's playing gravity blast beats instead of real blast beats, it's hilarious. I probably even have that wrong an am opening myself to flaming.)

It's when you've got a double bass drum and hit each of those and then the snare in rapid succession. Three quick notes that kind of sound like one.

a few minutes in and it sounds like vintage thrash metallica

Thanks for the explanation re: kick/snare triplets. I'm not a drummer, but I program drums sometimes and was wondering what you meant. I really like the guitar tones on the new song. I do hear a lot of Metallica's chunkiness in certain chords. I dig the tune overall.

love the newest song

New single!

https://open.spotify.com/track/3lRlDtNzyIgoXLXDThMo5O

I'm jumping off the roof

that new single's intro sounds like they transposed the intro of godspeed you! black emperor's "sleep"

Still not connecting with this band. Not that they're doing anything wrong, but I get bored.

http://www.npr.org/2015/09/23/441531170/first-listen-deafheaven-new-bermuda

this is amazing so far, the drummer is sick as hell and every time they let a real riff rip it's skin-scraping

http://www.stereogum.com/1831360/premature-evaluation-deafheaven-new-bermuda/franchises/premature-evaluation/

generous and reflective

that solo on 'come back'!!

I'm glad that piece highlights the drumming, it's what I was most impressed by on first listen. Not just beautifully played but also great-sounding.

this fuckin record!!

i like this album a LOT more than the last one. i didn't really dig that album at all. but the guitars are cool on this and the singer sounds like he went to BM school cuz he just sounds better in general. and the pretty guitar parts remind me of The Sundays. which is a compliment. don't know if i would listen to this on my own - just checked it out to see what condition their condition was in - but it's a good effort. i actually like the ROCK guitar parts a lot. maybe the guitarist will start a regular rock band at some point. would listen to that.

One of the guitarists is in a regular rock band (The Creepers) but they're pretty meh live so.

The Sundays??? lol

sundays comparison is the first thing that's made me want to hear this record

yeah, why not? that languid and liquid thing. the sundays also derided way back when by troo kult cocteau twins fans for making 4AD sounds safe for the masses.

Listening to this now. Anyone who knows me should not be surprised that I'm not a Deafheaven fan. For all the obvious reasons. The article above (which I applaud for going out and asking people why they don't like this band) illustrates a prime reason why when it praises the drummer with "there aren’t many drummers in the world today playing at his current level". That's a comment only people who a) don't listen to a lot of metal drumming, or b) don't listen to much great drumming, period, could make. The drumming I'm hearing on this is fine, it's good. It's a bit too compressed in the recording for my tastes, and the actual content of what he's playing isn't anything that makes me take down his name for future research. In a nutshell, I might say the same thing about the band as a whole.

Still, I'm not hating this so far. It's clearly not the same kind of black metal I typically listen to, but I don't think that's the point. It's not just an indie thing, but not at the level of a Nirvana "break" either. It's not quite that big -- but still interesting to see how black metal can be played in a way that would basically make sense to a high school kid, who 15 years ago, would have been listening to Blink 182. That probably sounds like an insult, but I don't mean it to be. This sounds like a mainstream rock to me, and considering it's made out of black metal parts, is kind of amazing.

i'll be honest though, as far as new albums in this vein go, this is more my speed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTjE9IB0F4g

the new deafheaven just sounds more cohesive to me. and less like a lab experiment. the last album reminded me of the first interpol record or something. let's stitch together some screamo + post-rock + shoegaze + bm in a pomo way that will appeal to a wide audience. and it worked! and i've actually got no problem with that. but it worked for them and not for me. because there are soooooooo many amazing metal hybrid albums that are better. but this one sounds more credible. it's got tons of hooks and it sounds cool. nothing wrong with that.

i actually think this review is fine except for the first sentence.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21022-new-bermuda/

"Nothing about the band Deafheaven makes literal sense, starting with their place in the world.""

because really EVERYTHING about this band makes literal sense. including their place in the world. they are the post-rock culmination of YEARS of metal hybridization. if that makes sense...

also, i'm really glad i listened to the album before i read comparisons to built to spill and yo la tengo or i might never have listened to it....

I think there's skepticism about bands like Deafheaven because of sentences like that. I mean, it seems like this happens anytime a band brings in a "new" sound that gets popular -- all the old fans of that sound are like, "this isn't new to me! Quit acting like you're so special!" It's pretty funny actually, and easy to dismiss because really, who gives a shit what's old news to old fans? All new fans know is they like the music; all the better if it's edgier than what they listened to before.

It really only becomes annoying to me when someone in real life is trying to convince me to love their new favorite band, and can't understand that I don't find it quite so novel (which in reality, doesn't happen that often).

(and btw, I have done this myself countless times, especially with metal. OMG AUTOPSY IS AMAZING!! YOU GUYS, DARKTHRONE'S 11th ALBUM IS TOTALLY UNDERRATED, WHY ISN'T EVERONE TALKING ABOUT IT??? SUCH A BREATH OF FRESH AIR, THESE GUYS ARE AWESOME.)

yeah, i get that. "they transcend the genre" statements will always make a genre fan bristle. it can't be helped.

another new album in the same vein that i LOVE and could listen to all day. FOR FANS OF EXPLOSIONS IN THE SKY AND GODSPEED YOU BLACK EMPEROR!

to me it's just a way better album. but it won't get any pitchfork love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e83ckO5LgY

sundays comparison is the first thing that's made me want to hear this record

Have to echo this. I am aggressively neutral on these guys -- heard the other album once on a stream, thought, "Eh, nice enough," then was befuddled at how it came A Thing.

Or became A Thing, rather, but anyway.

I'll leave the subject alone after this but there's something cynical and calculated about Deafheaven that I just can't get behind. I might be wrong but that's the vibe I get from them, every time.

(echoes of the moon album is just a dude recording at home in indiana...the mellencamp for a new generation...)

^this, but if ppl are rly persuasive i *might* listen to the new one xp

well, like i said, i didn't like the last album at all and i like the new one okay. worth listening to once anyway. whereas, echoes of the moon should be on your iBuds 24/7.

have stuck it on, thanks

I'll give those bands you posted a listen later, Scott. I like to think there's some life in blackgaze yet.

I can't really resist posting something that popped up recently. An odd mix of blackgaze + dream-pop + lo-fi weirdness. It's very rough and kind of amateurish but I don't mind that. The fact that I can enjoy this but dismiss the more slick/objectively "good" DH means there's something inherently wrong with my taste but eh, whatever.

http://namelesscoyote.bandcamp.com/album/blood-moon