Lily Allen - This summers biggest racist?

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Nothing cleans like it.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 08:41 (nineteen years ago)

'parrently, still No1 by some distance in the midweeks.

Oh, and Thom Yorkeis number 2 in the albums by summat like 500 lps.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

"To me Kylie playing Glastonbury would be the ultimate insult to it. It should be about new, interesting music, not mainstream pop."

I know pop stars say dumb, r**kist stuff all the time, but this is likely to push a few people off the fence where Lily Allen is concerned, I suspect.

― Flyboy (Flyboy), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

But her substance abuse comments are one “hit” her record label would rather she avoided.

*slow claps Newton*

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 08:49 (nineteen years ago)

Right, so in an article detailing her experiences with Cocaine and Ketamine, you focus on how she's not that keen on Kylie.

Hey, Sun Newspaper. If you want to set a good example to the "kids", don't publish her comments!

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 08:50 (nineteen years ago)

ILM readers more likely to be upset about Kylie diss than Class A advocacy I strongly suspect.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 08:52 (nineteen years ago)

x-post... I don't think her experiences with coke etc. are particularly surprising, nor do they annoy me, so yeah, I focused on the irritating bit. Oh noes!

― Flyboy (Flyboy), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 08:53 (nineteen years ago)

I LOVE the way tabloids RANDOMLY pick out the WORST comments, just to HELP offend their brainless READERS even more.

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 08:57 (nineteen years ago)

Allen is riding HIGH in the HIT parade, and it looks like she will SCORE another smash with her LP. She does not resemble a HORSE and has all the makings of a modern day indieskapop HEROINe.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 09:02 (nineteen years ago)

Of course she's on coke and ketamine. She is KEITH ALLEN'S DAUGHTER people. She probably had the stuff on her Frosties from the age of six.

(xpost - haha)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 09:03 (nineteen years ago)

It puts a new perspective on the title of this thread anyways

― zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 09:07 (nineteen years ago)

from skimming upthread: ska signifies whiteness now?

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 11:06 (nineteen years ago)

Madness are white.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

the knock 'em out sample is from 'fess up' by dr john

― art vandelay (what?), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

...or at least i thought it was. it may well be big chief by prof longhair tho... oops!

― art vandelay (what?), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

There's now a Lily Allen soundalike track on DFS radio commercials?!

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Friday, 14 July 2006 10:57 (nineteen years ago)

Lallen's FIVE STARS are spreadeagled over the top of today's Grauniad.

Someone is VERY desperate for this record to be a success, aren't they?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 14 July 2006 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

it's the only way to thwart that Tunstall/Bailey-Rae/Thom troika.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 14 July 2006 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

She gives reasonable controversial media but the music is pretty un-exciting, don't get this at all. Her comment Re:Kylie is so utterly toilet basin-brained as to be laugh out loud funny- "Glastonbury should be about new, interesting music, not mainstream pop"-- firstly Lallen is horrendous mainstream pop of the worst variety herself, secondly Kylie (infrequently admittedly)produces interesting music, thirdly Glastonbury is actually about dull stadium indie. She needs more horse tranquilizer!

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 17 July 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

I suggest a series of ten minute shows going out at 9:50 pm on a Wednesday (BBC 2) were, following Chantelle Fiddy's lead, each week a different blogger walks in on Lily Allen sitting on the toilet. Week 1: that guy who used to be in Star Trek who plays poker these days. Week 2: Andrew Sullivan. Week 3: Nick Sylvester. I smell ratings.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

Only just listened to this. I like Take What You Take best, cos it sounds like The Farm.

― JimD (JimD), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

But what would she be doing on the toliet? If it's her laying cable, I probably wouldn't tune in.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Heh, Pitchdork gave her album an 8.3 today.

"QUICK! BEFORE THE BANDWAGON ROLLS OFF A CLIFF, NICK SYLVESTER!"

(Expect to see Stylus give the album a D. With a review written by Passantino in which the music isn't even mentioned once.)

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

I can't believe cock-fork-meeja buy into the whole making it through myspace NONSENSE... how stupid and credulous are they? She was signed before she had anything to do with Myspace...

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

That isn't what the review says at all is it?

It only points out that there's a massively useful novelty angle to be exploited for what's going to be a very short time indeed... and then goes on to deflate the whole idea that she got success from any kind of hard honest graft (at least she's not in a rock band...) and starts talking about the publicity machine in general in pop, and the whole acceleration of the internet/music identity phenomenon ... concluding with an approval for the record, so what? He liked it! It's not a crime. Decent review I thought.

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

It's interesting how these kind of extended lyrics are becoming THE thing in pop all of a sudden (at least in England) The Streets, Arctic Monkeys and now Lily Allen...

It might not be incredibly surprising lyricism, but it's an interesting little change no? Is it in reaction to anything much?

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

This almost feels like it needed to come out somehow to redress the indie-male-lad balance being reinforced so fucking hard by T'Monkeys & NME...

Except somehow I feel like Bill Hicks about it all :(

"I'll show you pop in Great Britain-- here it is, right here: I think the puppet on the right shares my values! I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking! Hey wait a minute, there's one guy holding up both puppets!

Shut up! Go back to bed UK, your media is in control..."

(except T'Monkeys album is frustratingly... better than this pap, sorry)

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/observer/archives/2006/07/18/no_lily.html#more

she was OMM's cover star way back in May, when hardly anyone outside of the music industry (and yes, the MySpace community) had heard of her

and he mentions "griping about the 'hype' from latecomers"

there's been griping here since april, dontchaknow.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

I am prepared to bet dollars to fucking donuts that the OMM "discovering" Lallen didn't happen until at least after she was first played on Radio 1. Didn't she first turn up on RJustice last December or summat?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

the omm's piece span it as a velvet revolution of no-PR ascendancy... so yes that's a very safe bet indeed

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

Who wrote the OMM piece anyway. Sawyer?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

yeah.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

"Last month I used my column in this magazine to bemoan today's lack of proper pop stars, the ones who talk the talk as well as walk the tight-trousered walk, who know that the music's only part of the job and personality's the rest.

Anyway, just days later, the editor called me up, all excited, and said, 'I think I've found you one!'.
Lily Allen was his answer to my rant, recommended to him by an OMM work-experience girl who had found her MySpace site. Lily had put up four of her chirpy pop-ska songs, and, within weeks, they'd spread like internet flu. She now has a staggering 24,932 friends on her page, Parlophone has rush-released her first single, 'LDN', and the limited edition seven-inch is reselling for £40 on eBay. Lily is a genuine, no PR, punters-love-it success, which is fantastic, but, even more promisingly, her blog is hilarious [...]"

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno, I always get the feeling that there could be a decent magazine somewhere in OMM if they got rid of the shit lists, the interviews with celebrities that aren't actually anything to do with musicians, and the monthly "colonialist journo goes and visits the darkies and sees how primitives make music" piece.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

that's 21 may.

xpost

yeah and sacked all the shitty, superannuated writers.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

We need a Logan's Run of music journos. If you were writing about music in 81 you shouldn't be writing about it now.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

that reminds me -- paul morley said he quit writing about music in about 1984, when he was, whatever, 25, cos he was too old (and had a new lucrative job in a&r).

but there he still is!

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

Logan's Run is to be remade, and the age of death is now 21!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0402344/

The problem with the OMM is all the faff--do away with shitty lists (which are always even more boring than ILM list threads) and 'interesting facts' that everyone knows and stick in more reviews written by good writers. And get rid of Sawyer.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

genius re. over-21 'logan's run'!!!!!!

modern hollywood in a nutshell.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know why the myspace 'hook' is a hook at all? in every one-sentence blurb about arctic monkeys and lallen i've seen, the "discovered through myspace" line is trotted out (and even though i hate them there are FAR more interesting things to say, esp when you have limited space!). is this meant to be good? bad? who cares? you may as well say "discovered by being heard on the radio" or "they were in a magazine once".

what is logan's run?

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

nick logan used to run the nme before you were born -- at one point he sacked ALL contributors over 31. hollywood's film tampered with the facts to some extent.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

genius re. over-21 'logan's run'!!!!!!

It was 21 in the original book as well apparently though I haven't read it. They could turn it into a good comment on modern Hollywood values if they tried though.

Lex--Logan's Run was a film starring John Wayne.

(x-post)

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, the OMM lists can be good sometimes.

The rest of it can usually be shit, through.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

Esteban, you've jumped the troll.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

THEYRE BETTER THAN THOSE GAY-ASS LISTS ON STYLUS!!!11!!

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

long xpost, but I do hear the Fiona Apple-ness Philip hears in "Shame On You." I can imagine Fiona singing it with a more piano-ey/organic arrangement.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

yeah I guess it does make more sense with "Shame For You", which is a bit reminiscent of "Criminal" or "Sleep To Dream".

It's also my favourite Lily track by some distance.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 23:49 (nineteen years ago)

"jumped the troll" GENIUS.

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Thursday, 20 July 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

If it's genius, then why isn't it on MySpace with all the other geniuses?

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

(Expect to see Stylus give the album a D. With a review written by Passantino in which the music isn't even mentioned once.)

-- ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (estebanbutte...), July 18th, 2006.

DING DING DING

http://www.stylusmagazine.com/reviews/lily-allen/alright-still.htm

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ The Unstoppable Troll Machine (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Monday, 24 July 2006 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

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