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>first three volumes<

or the second and third anyway (since you didn't list the first)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 14:22 (twenty years ago)

>at least two indie labels - Broken Bow and Equity - are scoring hits in the country market; do you know of any more?)<

Whichever one Chely Wright's fascist bumper sticker song was on. (Though did her album eventually come out on a major? I forget. That's another 2005 country album I'd still like to hear by the way.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 14:31 (twenty years ago)

I like the way Carrie's voice kinda breaks on "wheel" in "Jesus Take." the point of that song is that she doesn't have enough money to have a really good car on the ice, or to invite her parents to *her* house for Christmas, seems to me. it's kinda like the new Jamey Johnson record--I wish they were just even more explicitly about money; Jamey's really gets at class and losing-your-authenticity quite well in "Ray Ray's Juke Joint" and "Rebelicious" and the two money songs that open the record and even "Keepin' Up with the Jonesin'." but like Carrie's, it doesn't go far enough for my tastes at least; still, I like the effort both of them make. and Jamey co-wrote Trace Adkins's "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk"--"Rebelicious" is kind of part two of that single.

xps

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 14:45 (twenty years ago)

via email from ned sublette:

FEBRUARY 14, 2006

1 P.M. EST

FOR PUBLIC DISTRIBUTION


WILLIE NELSON RECORDS NED SUBLETTE'S "COWBOYS ARE FREQUENTLY SECRETLY."

YES, HE REALLY DID.

NOW AVAILABLE AS A DOWNLOAD. AND SOON, A RINGTONE.

SPREAD THE MEME.

I was sworn to secrecy until now, but today, on Valentine's Day, it can be told.

In 1981, sitting at a piano in Portales, New Mexico, I wrote a song called "Cowboys Are Frequently Secretly," whose first two verses and chorus go:

There's many a strange impulse out on the plains of West Texas

There's many a young boy who feels things he don't comprehend

Well, the small town don't like it when somebody falls between sexes

No, the small town don't like it when a cowboy has feelings for men.

Now I believe to my soul that inside every man there's the feminine

And inside every lady there's a deep manly voice loud and clear

Well the cowboy may brag about things that he does with his women

But the ones that brag loudest are the ones who are most likely queer.

Cowboys are frequently secretly fond of each other

What did you think all them saddles and boots was about?

There's many a cowboy who don't understand the way that he feels for his brother

Inside every cowboy there's a lady who'd love to slip out.

It was the era of the urban cowboy plague, when the country charts were full of cowboys this and cowboys that songs. Inspired, I wrote this song, imagining Willie Nelson singing it.

"Cowboys" seemed to strike a nerve, and for a time was the thing I was best known for. It took on a life of its own, as songs will do. After the first time I sang it, I got requests for "the one about the cowboys" at the next gig I did, and on and on. I probably don't need to point out that at the time, the term AIDS was unknown. A live recording of the first-ever performance of it by my band appeared on a John Giorno anthology. I made a damn fine recording of it in the 80s, with an A-team of specialist players, that has never come out. It was covered by the queercore group Pansy Division, who changed it from a waltz to 4/4. I tried to place it in Brokeback Mountain, but the word I got was that it was too funny for a tear-jerkin' movie.

My friend Tony Garnier, who played bass on my studio version, passed a copy of the track to Willie Nelson in maybe 1988. After living with the song all these years, Willie has recorded it.

It has just been released as a download-only single on iTunes, and as of this morning, it's available at iTunes.

It was premiered this morning, a few months shy of 25 years since I wrote it, for Valentine's Day, when Willie appeared as a guest on the Howard Stern show. I didn't hear it, since I don't yet get Sirius. The song has the F-word in it (it's not gratuitous, it's structural), and by going over to Sirius, Howard Stern can play it unedited. Satellite radio is the new FM.

It's pretty amazing to hear Willie sing this song. Not just because it has the word "queer" in it. Not even because it's the first time I've heard Willie Nelson sing the word "fuck." But because of his interpretive power. Since I originally imagined Willie singing it, I feel kind of like I already heard it, way back when. But Willie as an interpreter is always surprising, and I learned a hundred things about my own song hearing him give it back to me.

But here's the best part.

There's going to be a "Cowboys Are Frequently Secretly" ringtone. I don't have the link yet, but if you want it, e-mail me and I'll try to keep on top of it. After all, ringtones are the new singles.

I'm told there is also a video, though I haven't seen it.

Please feel free to let all your friends and acquaintances know. And thank you, Willie.

Late-breaking update: An article in the Dallas Morning News today quoted a prepared statement by Willie as saying, "The song's been in the closet for 20 years":

xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 18:39 (twenty years ago)

first published on metal thread:

hurricane mason (from tulsa, oklahoma), *cast iron constitution* (2002), *it's only miles* (2005). first CD has the most badass cover of any cdbaby band cd i've come across lately -- a great big american bison buffalo, which is a VERY MANLY ANIMAL. (insert joke here about the difference between a buffalo and a bison is that a bison is what britsh people wash their hands in, etc.) second album cover is a rearview mirror. (insert meat loaf or hootie and blowfish album title here etc.) first album also *sounds* more badass, more ruff and tuff, both vocally and musically: "don't shine me on" a kickass boogie rocker, "head up in the clouds" a good long 8:13 choogle about gettin nekkid in new orleans that stretches out by winding down to a winding allmansesque ending, "killer machine" a gloomy spooky slow heavy one with a nazareth-style buildup; "spare change" an open-road biker ballad with a sped up ending. can't place which second-tier '70s southern rocker the vocalist sings like, but it was an okay one, whoever it was -- though the singer doesn't always grab you with his words like he should (he does better on the buffalo album than the rearview one). though the band is still pretty stodgy overall, which is more a detriment on the more recent album, though "girl across the street" could almost be a garland jeffreys song, "painted smile" has another slow spooky build to it climaxing in "the rich man makes the rules and the poor man writes the songs" and by that point i'm wondering if this is what springsteen's pre-debut-album jersey shore metal band steel mill or whatever they were called might've sounded like, "news man" is about how the TV news lies and has a heavy riff that keeps coming in, "little drops of rain" is their second song to mention new orleans (and you will notice they have hurricane in their name, crazy, huh?), and the closer "soulshine" is "written by warren haynes" (so, a gov't mule cover maybe? i dunno) and has soul singers in the background, and before that there's a song about how every schoolboy's fantasy is to grow up to be angus young and they quote "it's a long way to the top" in it. their cdbaby page likens them to nugent, grand funk, neil young, ac/dc, black crowes, santana, and black sabbath, not all of which i hear myself but maybe you will.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 21:15 (twenty years ago)

i titled my (failed) emp proposal after the song, and have both ned and pansy divisions versions on mp3, it is a song of a strange and enormous power--of course its camp, but camp as devoted love song, camp that is serious and true about its intentions, and camp as a political/personal text.

i think that its one of my favourite country songs, and i want them to play it for the first dance at my wedding.

i love willie is doing this, and i wished i could get i tunes to work, cause i want to hear it

Anthony Easton, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 21:32 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) OK, how do I start the campaign to encourage enough downloads of "Cowboys Are Frequently Secretly" to send the song into the Top 40?

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 21:33 (twenty years ago)

im not sure, email and blogs im assuming

Anthony Easton, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:54 (twenty years ago)

I'm not too swooft with itunes either, I think my computer's got Alzheimer's. Reminds me of a line in that Dave Hickey piece about Waylon I was talking about on the Rolling 2005 or 2004: Waylon's backstage guest is going on and on about queers, and Waylon says, "Well Hoss, long as you can find somethin' warm to squeeze." I'll have to check Hurricane Mason too. Are bison bi? Are Grouchy Roosters? Thanxx for Copperhead Live & Lost, xhuxx. They don't sound lost, although "Whiskey Mama" bespeaks true abandon. So REO had a singer like that, on their very first album? Wow. Overall, a bit like Deep Purple x Allmans (with James Gang rhythm? Something like that). I think it's "Keepin' On" that sounds like how the ex-Allmans Dickey Betts might fit with the Purps, and who knows, maybe he will, if ex-Dixie Dregs Steve Morse goes back to being an airline pilot. xpost Josh, Los Lonely Boys were sort of proteges of Willie, he was fond enough of them to give 'em studio time and a slot on his tours (he played a really good, brittle solo, not speedy like his usual, on their cover of "Cisco Kid," when they were on one of his cast-of-thousands USA Network specials, now all on CD and DVD, I think). And they've had some vids on CMT, and their own CMT Crossroads, co-starring Ronnie Milsap. Which worked fine, was one of the better Crossroads, for sure. (Right after I saw that xpost Raitt/Lovett Crossroads, flipped over to TMC, and they were showing a trailer for one of the Benji movies, the one Charlie Rich sang in and scored.[scored the music, I mean--no, not "Behind Closed Doors.] Flashback to a 70s afternoon talkshow, Merv Griffith's or Mike Douglas's: Benji bounds out, unaccompanied, barking his ass off, then runs over and grabs the cuff of Ronnie Milsap's bell, shaking it like it was a rat. Ronnie grimaces, tilting back his head; blind, shaded eyes angle up toward the lights. Nobody moves, 'til Denver Pyle, who played the Dukes' uncle [Willie's part in the movie], gets up, and yells, "Git! Shoo! Hya-Hya-Hya!" And herds Benji back to the wings.)

don, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 05:30 (twenty years ago)

FLEETWOOD MAC QUEENS OF COUNTRY, KINGS OF GRIME

I mentioned upthread that Little Big Town's "Bones" draws on Fleetwood Mac's "The Chain." Well, I just listened to the grime compilation Run the Road Vol. 2, and the remix of Sway's "Up Your Speed" cops the bass riff that John McVie uses on "The Chain"'s ending rave-up. The Sway track plays the riff on some orchestral-type keyboard setting, so the sound is of an ominous orchestral motif rather than the big-bouncing bottom that it is on the Fleetwood Mac album. (I'm wondering if there might not be some intermediate track post-FM and pre-Sway that uses the riff and might be Sway's [or his remixer's] immediate source.)

(Yeah, I know the connection of this post to country is tenuous.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 06:24 (twenty years ago)

AP's story about the Willie track was in the headlines on my EarthLink homepage, so the story is getting a lot of play; you probably won't need a special campaign to inspire downloads.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 06:29 (twenty years ago)

i still want the fucking song, and a link to that story as well

Anthony Easton, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 06:47 (twenty years ago)

Calexico, *Garden Ruin*: Wow, dullsville. What happened to the desert (the Tex-Mex and the good and the bad and the ugly) in these guys' sound? I like *Feast of Wire* a few years ago. This is just another alt-country folk=snooze record, at least for the first few songs at least, though I notice that it does pick up speed a pinch by track #5 "Letter to Bowie Knife" and finally a little mariachi and Spanish words come in for track #6 "Roka." But by then it's too fucking late.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 13:46 (twenty years ago)

Garth Brooks' Sessions lands on my desk with a two-sentence promo sheet. Something like "Here's 'Sessions' and thanks for reviewing it." OK. Has anybody else heard this? I guess it's some new stuff that Good Ride Cowboy Chris Ledoux tribute song and of course Mrs. Brooks is on it. But mostly its old songs that didn't make the cut I guess.

werner T., Wednesday, 15 February 2006 17:39 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i just got it too, and was like what the fuck? had never heard it was coming, or anything. guess i'll listen to it. just not right now.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 17:42 (twenty years ago)

OK, quick hunt on internut shows its another Wal-Mart only album, most of it oldies, though I see three 2005 songs on it. And I'm listening to it right now and I like.

werner T., Wednesday, 15 February 2006 17:52 (twenty years ago)

The wildest song on the Sessions so far is Cowgirl's Saddle and how when Garth dies he wants to come back as one because you know, wink wink, you get to ride horses and hold a Cowgirl tight. Huh huh.

werner T., Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:13 (twenty years ago)

there was something on CMT about those Garth sessions, but I haven't seen a copy yet.

here's part of Jon Weisberger's appreciation of the late Charles K. Wolfe in today's Nashville Scene:

there are scholars whose life and work demand respect, and none deserves it more than Murfreesboro’s Dr. Charles K. Wolfe, who died last Thursday after a long struggle with diabetes and the complications that attend it. No country music writer was more prolific than Wolfe, who published 19 books and was at work on several more projects at the time of his death. And none ranged more freely across the sweep of the music’s history, tackling subjects both broad and narrow. Most importantly, none was more engaged with the object of his study, applying the insights gained from close attention to the music’s early years to the trends and happenings of today.

Those who focused, professionally or not, on the string bands of the 1920s and 1930s knew that Wolfe could be relied on to fill in a blank, or at least to point them in the right direction. But journalists covering country music news, too, knew that he was always ready to provide an informed, clear and pointed context for the latest developments and controversies.

Though country music itself is old, the serious study of country music is not, and it is no exaggeration to say that Wolfe, together with a handful of colleagues, was instrumental in the construction of country music history as a worthy and viable subject. Yet while his research was as thorough as possible, his work was aimed not so much at other scholars as at those who were involved or interested in the music, or who could be persuaded by a blend of passion and knowledge to become so.

By necessity, most of Wolfe’s books were published by academic presses. But he was also a frequent contributor and consultant to both public and commercial television documentaries. His publications in scholarly journals were matched by dozens of liner notes that accompanied contemporary releases and reissues of undeservedly obscure recordings.

The range of Wolfe’s interests—and hence of his knowledge—was simply staggering. The Devil’s Box: Masters of Southern Fiddling, a collection of essays published in 1997, covered subjects ranging from the age of fiddle styles heard on country’s earliest recordings to the career of Tommy Jackson, who played a key role in defining the instrument’s role in the 1950s and beyond. Another collection, Classic Country (2001), offered succinct sketches not only of Hall of Famers like Grandpa Jones (with whom Wolfe co-authored an autobiography) and Bill Monroe, but of forgotten figures like songwriter Arthur Q. Smith and the mysterious Seven Foot Dilly.

With historian Kip Lornell, Wolfe co-authored a book-length study of the great African American blues and folk singer Leadbelly. He also acted as the chief consultant for PBS’ broad American Roots Music series and wrote a biography of gospel legend Mahalia Jackson.

To all of these subjects, Wolfe brought an unalloyed, infectious enthusiasm, and it was natural that the same spirit led him not just to scholarship, but to engagement and activism. Sometimes this manifested itself simply in encouragement and assistance to other students of roots music, including those he taught during the course of more than 30 years at MTSU. At others, it led to lasting collaborations and friendships with a diverse collection of artists and musicians. At still others, it took the form of public commentary and advocacy, perhaps most notably when Wolfe adopted the title of “curmudgeon” to weigh in on personnel changes at the Country Music Hall of Fame & Museum.

Given the International Bluegrass Music Association’s Distinguished Achievement Award in 1990, Wolfe also served behind the scenes in helping to create the organization’s Leadership Bluegrass program. The initiative is aimed at shoring up not only the music’s ongoing creative vitality but its commercial survival.

“In an age when country music seems to be shooting off in a dozen different directions, it is important to remind ourselves that there was once, and still is, a broad mainstream that genuinely defined the genre,” Wolfe wrote in the introduction to Classic Country. Ultimately, it’s the assertion of country music’s importance that points to his greatest legacy. For while his work has its own merits, what may count for most in the end is his insistence that music, and especially country music, matters—that not only does it have things to tell us that we need to listen to, and not only does it have intrinsic joys and rewards, but that these can only be enriched by a deeper knowledge of who made it, and how and why. Whether or not they realize it, every denizen of Music Row, every fan and every artist, from the unknown fiddler tackling the “Black Mountain Rag” to the current toast of the town, owes Charles Wolfe a debt of gratitude

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 20:16 (twenty years ago)

that's Joe, not Jon, Weisberger who wrote the Wolfe obit.

Chris Neal did a nice piece today also in Nashville Scene, about the Country Radio Seminar. it's worth reading in full: title is "Radio Interference." some interesting facts: country radio has 2042 stations right now, up from 690 when CRS started 37 years ago--more than any other format, if I read it right. Arbitron says country listenership is at its highest level in 7 years. and good stuff on satellite/subscription stations like XL and Sirius, who have 9 million listeners, a lot but nothing compared to 230 "terrestial" radio stations. Neal maintains that "long-form" programming might prove a boon to country artists and listeners, too, and cites the venerable Nashville station 95.5 FM, now called "The Wolf," as an example of a traditional station that has opened up its programming, playing what you'd expect but also stuff like the Eagles, Commodores, Quarterflash...and he talks about acts like Pinmonkey, who are apparently getting some nice royalty checks thru their play on satellite. there's more, and as I say, worth reading.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 16 February 2006 02:04 (twenty years ago)

Quarterflash!

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 16 February 2006 02:52 (twenty years ago)

Logan asserts that satellite has already been instrumental in breaking new country acts, citing Sony BMG's Miranda Lambert, who has sold more than half a million copies of her 2005 debut album, Kerosene, without ever hitting the Top 10 on traditional airplay charts. "We can expose artists to millions of people," he declares. "This will be the primary focal point for breaking country music in the future."

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:04 (twenty years ago)

But broadcast and satellite aren't the only games in town anymore. For example, Pinmonkey have ventured onto MySpace.com, an Internet site that began as a simple meet-new-friends service but has become an ideal way for artists, from bedroom hobbyists to major-label acts, to let their music be heard and to boost turnout for shows.

"If you’re touring on a grassroots level like we are," explains drummer Crouch, "you can search demographically by age group and pick, say, 19- to 42-year-olds in Winston-Salem, N.C., knowing that you're going to be there in two weeks. Then you send out a message to those people saying, 'Come check it out.' You can micromarket."

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:07 (twenty years ago)

that's Joe, not Jon, Weisberger who wrote the Wolfe obit.

Nope. You were right the first time, Edd. The online version of the Scene fucked up the byline. Jon is a good bluegrass bass player and bluegrass critic in Nashville.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 16 February 2006 15:35 (twenty years ago)

Steel Rodeo's Treats. First two tunes are killer: "Rescue Me," an AC/DC-style rocker with a dramatic wah-wah solo, maybe as played by the Georgia Satellites, and "Washed Away," something Bob Seger would have been proud of around "Turn the Page" or so. "Bad Girl Blues" is more rock 'n' roll, the singer telling the bad girl she forced a shot of her wickedness into him, not that he didn't like it. Album basically rocks from start to finish, built on Stones licks and Wyman/Starr drumming, which means it really really really sounds like the Georgia Satellites, only like Satellites who didn't run out of songs about halfway through their second album. More consistent, actually, than first Georgia Satellites LP. Good singer, too, with a hillbilly poor man's Van Morrison thing going on.

-- George the Animal Steele (george_the_animal_steele...), February 15th, 2006.

Double on their other album on CD Baby, 60 Cycle Hum. "Carol Ann" and "Ghost Train" are the big tunes and the Georgia Satellites sound is even more pronounced on the first half dozen out of ten on the record. The blurbs on CD Baby say they have four albums, none of which I'd heard or seen anywhere until they came available in entirety on-line.

George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 16 February 2006 17:07 (twenty years ago)

yeah, Roy, I thought it was Jon.

so I think I'm won over by Birde Busch's new folkie record "The Ways We Try." she sounds nice and casual and a bit droll, and I'm sort of in love with the closing track, "Room in the City," a lovely 6/8 ballad with a beautiful little chromatic piano figure and intelligently used pedal steel. I like the way she doesn't try so hard to prettify her voice, and it's a really charming song about songwriting and its relationship to how people actually live: "Had a room in the city/And he needed room to grow/He said 'I've written a thousand songs/Still feel I have nothing to show.'" very nice indeed.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 16 February 2006 17:37 (twenty years ago)

i've decided that i probably like the new legendary shack shakers album more than george does but less than don does. (also not as much as their previous album, which had more junior parker funk and less tom waits oompah.) catchiest and also punkiest (thanks to jello biafra??) song on new one: "south electric eyes." next in line after that probably "somethin in the water" (which seems to somehow concern living in a dry county if i read it right), then "jipsy valentine" (for its gogol bordello break). most country cut: "the ballad of speedy atkins." most country lyric: "he's not mr. right but he's mr. right now" (the world's first ever povertyneck hillbillies quote??) in "bible, candle, and skull." pretty good sax part: "nellie bell."

xhuxk, Thursday, 16 February 2006 19:17 (twenty years ago)

>I hope [Redhill] win all the Motor City Music Awards they just got nominated for.<

Oops, I misinterpeted an email from the band. I should've said "I hope they get nominated for all the Motor City Music Awards they deserve." Also they have SIX people, not five. EP's still great, though.

xhuxk, Friday, 17 February 2006 00:53 (twenty years ago)

Apropos of nothing, I saw the Autumn Defense last night at the Living Room. Live wasn't as swoonworthy as on record, or more likely I'm just more dependent on production. And John Stirratt, like Mike Mills, is a far better backing vocalist than lead vocalist. But still I loved what I heard.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 17 February 2006 04:18 (twenty years ago)

condensed and modified from teenpop thread:

*Aquamarine* soundtrack peaks, in great Hope Partlow Samantha Jo tradition with another GREAT summer song, "Summertime Guys" by longtime Disney pop C-lister Nikki Cleary, which has a killer rumbling bounce of a beat I can't put my finger on - not quite Bow Wow Wow, not quite Bo Diddley, but pretty close taxonomincally: early Sweet, maybe? I dunno, something like that. Song is written by Jeffrey W Coplan (who also produced it), Nikki Cleary, and Robert Ellis Orrall, the last of whom sort of existed on the commercial country/late-Creem powerpop cusp once upon a time and had a #32 Carlene Carter duet pop hit in 1983 with "I Couldn't Say No," and bigger country hits later than that I believe. (See above: "barndance mixer" "Boom! It Was Over" on 1995 K-Tel comp *Country Kickers.*)

xhuxk, Friday, 17 February 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)

a whole buncha stuff to deal with (hopefully briefly):

miko marks, *freeway bound*: one of the things that cdbaby seems like it might be useful for is finding out about black people singing country music, since you can quickly scan CD covers which tend to have photos of singers. i've contacted a couple so far, and really wanted to like miko marks, who like grand funk and michael moore is from flint, michigan. she's pictured with charlie pride in her press kit and hints in there also at having a soul music influence, but sadly i don't hear it in her music at all. what i mostly hear in her singing i guess is reba mcentire, and despite liking a few early reba hits (and one album that's actually on my shelf -- *whoever's in new england* i believe), i'm realizing there's something i inherently kinda dislike about reba's voice. maybe it sounds pinched to me or something? anyway, a couple of miko marks' songs are ok, but nothing has grabbed me so far. which doesn't mean some won't eventually, if i give them more of a chance, and i will.

tea leaf green, *taught to be proud*: these guys are also on cdbaby -- four albums, though oddly apparently not this one. and actually i don't remember contacting them about their music, and can't imagine why i would have. this just fell into my lap, somehow. it came out in '05, though if they have a show coming in new york (one reason they may have sent it to me), i haven't noticed. anyway, i kind of like it. its sound reminds me of *workingman's dead,* extremely pretty/hooky/grooveful folk-rock with nice exploratory guitar endings. best one so far is in a song called, um, "rapture," which is not a blondie cover but a song about how the rapture is coming. which would maybe mean they're HARDCORE christians and scary ones, except the lyrics of "rapture" (sung from the point of view as "a gambler with no bankroll" apparently avoiding the "law man") remind me of "renegade" by styx. they mention the Lord in other songs, though. so still Xtian, i guess.

The Tossers, *The Valley of the Shadow of Death*: On Victory Records, which inevitably makes me think I'll hate it, and the only reason I played it is because they *do* have a show coming up in NYC (opening for Dropkick Murphys, which is appropriate as you'll see), and I can make a few bucks by writing a show preview. Ended up liking it a lot more than I expected to -- maybe the best approximation of the Pogues' *Rum Sodomy and the Lash* by an American band I've heard (the Murphys being more like *Red Roses of Me*), hence belonging on the country thread given country's roots in Celtic folk. The Tossers apparently come from an Irish Catholic neighborhood on Chicago's South Side, which would make me wonder why the hell the singer sings in an Irish accent and spells jail "gaol" on the lyric sheet except that I now live in Sunnyside, Queens, which contains something like 15 Irish bars within a few blocks of my apartment (no exagerration, I swear), and people sure do talk with Irish accents in those, despite this also happening to be the United States. Anyway, the album sounds really good, especially the last couple tracks which get quite dark and beautiful and apparently (according to the liner notes) include within them a couple jigs and/or reels originally performed by the Chieftans.

Speaking of Irish bars, I just had a beer at one on the way home from dropping my daughter off at the Port Authority so she could catch the bus back to Bucks County after the weekend, and they played "The Stranger" by Billy Joel, which I never paid attention to much before (it's about how everybody has a split personality or something) and realized maybe it was an attempt to do a reggae song (by the way, I think Mikael Wood underrated Billy Joel in his Voice lead review a few weeks ago, and I actually myself wrote a Voice lead Billy Joel review once in the late '80s explaining what I don't quite hate about him) and they (= said Sunnyside Irish bar) also played "Richard Corey" by Simon & Garfunkel, which I also never paid attention to much before (it's about how some banker's son owns half the town and the singer works in his factory but the rich guy winds up shooting himself) and realized maybe it was an attempt to sound like the Kinks. Has that ever occured to anybody before? (Also both songs belong here since obviously both Billy Joel and Simon & Garfunkel have since influenced commercial country, though I can't think of specifics now.)

Finally, uh, Rockie Lynne's album is on right now. I kinda hate it I think. Not sure why. He just sounds bland and smug or something. The single "Lipstick" is maybe not all that awful -- just another tequila sunrise about going on a spur of the moment vacation to El Paso and elsewhere and sleeping in the desert with your gal, okay, what the hell, I can live with it. More interesting perhaps is "Super Country Cowboy", which is a sort of post-talking blues rap about how Rockie is this new kind of evangelical psychedelic cowboy playing a new kind of country that acknowledges the existence of the Rolling Stones and mp3s. Or something like that. Seemed rather forced to me. But the rest seems even suckier so far.

(okay, maybe not so brief. sorry!)

xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 00:33 (twenty years ago)

I went nuts on my two Steel Rodeo burns Friday night. Turns out, it's great drinking music. Can't decide which one rocks more or has better songs, Treats or 60 Cycle Hum. You'll just have to wait and see when you get them. I was listening to a lot of other stuff and then put Steel Rodeo on, and it just hit the spot so good, it seemed not right to take them out of the chamber until I'd had enough.

George the Animal Steele, Monday, 20 February 2006 00:42 (twenty years ago)

ps) tea leaf green's cdbaby page pegs them as a jam band (and maybe not christian after all -- at least, they don't seem to make an issue of it of they are), but to my ears the album they sent is more songful than wanky -- closer to nickel creek (or even little big town maybe) than phish. if this was the '70s, they'd be called soft rock. they're from san francisco, apparently.

pss) miko marks has apparently collaborated with eykah badu, though i'm not sure when.

psss) unclear whether the tossers have *songs* near the level of the pogues's early on; the singer's alright, but he's missing something, i'm not sure what. they sure can reel, though.

xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 04:34 (twenty years ago)

on third thought (with maybe more to come):

-- tea leaf green are WAY more expansive, explorartion-wise, than either nickel creek or little big town. i guess what reminded me of those bands is the mandolins and/or close harmonies, i'm not sure. But 7 of the 11 songs on this album last 4:53 or longer, so yeah, I guess that's why they're considered a jam band. Why I haven't been *hearing* them as a jam band, I guess, is that the jams seem to emerge so naturally out of the super melodic songs, and the jams stay melodic (and rhythmic) while they happen, so i just hear them more as, um, "long incidental instrumental breaks." fairport convention's in there some, and maybe even steely dan. congas on two tracks. i tend to prefer their longer songs.

-- miko marks has a blues and soul influence in her singing after all, but it tends to show up more in her ballads ("don't come cryin' to me," the plight-of-the-impoverished protest "the lonely one," and my fave so far "feelin' the rain") which seem to be less plentiful than her more upbeat songs. which can be fun (esp the road song "freeway bound" and the very vaguely caribbean-lilted-in-a-phil-vassar-kinda-way summer song "all i wanna do"), but which are mostly just two-steps that sound like the kind of stuff that might have showed up on country stations in the early '90s. i may be wrong about her reba influence; miko sounds like *somebody* from that era, though maybe not reba. maybe somebody (even?) more trad-sounding than reba who i can't quite place. either way, i'm liking her more.

-- the tossers seem more interesting in their slower songs ("drinking in the day," "presab san ol," "the valley of the shadow of death", etc) than their more upbeat ones as well. there is something a little rote-sounding and hopscotchy about the latter, like for instance the dad-i'm-in-gaol-don't-tell-mom-and-don''t-come-post-my-bail opener. for some reason both the singer and rhythm section find their footing more when things slow down.

--at least one song from the *high school musical* OST, "breaking free", sounds as much like a pop-country power ballad to me as a teen-pop power ballad (isn't that one of the big download hits? i think so, since it's one of two tracks with a "karaoke instrumental" version at the end of the CD. and come to think of it, the instumental - which i I kind of like; when I first heard it, it was in my random CD changer, and I guessed it was by either tea leaf green or the tossers! -- sounds somewhat rural or pastoral or whatever as well.) the non-karaoke rendition is said to be sung by leading man troy + leading lady gabrielle.

-- finally, back to Nashville: Did anybody else here notice that dykey member Kristen Hall did not perform with Sugarland at the Grammys a couple weeks ago? I did, and wondered what the hell was up, but then forgot about it the next day. Well, yesterday I saw one of those glossy country mags on a newsstand, and it said Sugarland are now a duo -- Kristen claims to have quit because touring was cutting into her time for writing, etc. Sorry, but I don't buy it. The article also hinted that Jennifer Nettles may wind up with a solo career. Given how Kristen and also goofy nerdy guy Kristian Bush seemed to occupy less and less camera time whenever Sugarland showed up on TV as the past year progressed, I'm really wondering to what extent the weirder looking members were being squeezed out of the picture. And I'm not sure who to blame it on, but whoever's doing it can kiss my ass.

xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)

(i guess if you count Rancid as USA post-pogues the tossers are nowehere near on that level, either, come to think of it. and i don't know if i've ever heard flogging molly, whose singer allegedly used to be in fastway. so take everything i say above about the tossers with a grain of salt in yer ale, mate. i may well decide that their album is dragged down by its faster songs, would be both a paradox and a bloody shame.) (by the way, does anybody remember, when the pogues first came out, that there were other bands emerging out of great britain reported in the brit music papers as doing something similar? one was called the boothill footstompers i think. another was maybe the boys from county hell, unless that was a pogues song...no...the MEN from, er...somewhere. never heard 'em myself.)

xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Have been listening to the Rosanne Cash over the last short while and have been enjoying it a lot. But the beginning of "Like Fugitives" was bothering me for a while, and then I realized: It's Bryan Adams' "Run to You"!

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 20 February 2006 15:27 (twenty years ago)

(okay shit, by "fast" tossers numbers i realize i'm just meaning the more "punk" and hence less "folk" ones. the folk cuts {esp those chieftans rips} are often just as fast as the punk cuts, but mainly they're just way more *nimble.* and there's really not enough nimbleness to recommend the album, though it's possible better production would've helped matters. so let's call it a halfway decent tribute album to the pogues, and be done with the thing.)

xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 16:00 (twenty years ago)

ammended "breaking free" from *high school musical* opinion, via teenpop thread:

>(the most and maybe only country thing about "breaking free" might be gabrielle aka vanessa anne hudgens's vocal inflections as her intensity picks up. i'm guessing if anybody on here has a future, it's her.)

xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 16:52 (twenty years ago)

"Tonight I clocked out early to meet my girlfriends for a beer," Miko Marks tells her hubbie or boyfriend in "Kickin' Back" (which does indeed kick, thanks to the kickdrum I think!); she's gonna spend the night dancing with every guy in the place. So: more girls-night-out country. And it turns out that Miko has a pretty rich voice after all. (I think who her singing reminds me of might be more Lorrie Morgan than Reba, though maybe richer than Lorrie. And I wouldn't be surprised if Lorrie was inspired some by r&b. She was defintely inspired by Sam Cooke descendent Steve Perry, whose "Faithfully" from Journey she covered well.)

xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 17:20 (twenty years ago)

does this belong on this thread or the metal thread (where it already is) or neither?: derek trucks band, *songlines*, reviewed well if with reservations in this morning's *times*, but so far to me the guitar playing mostly sounds as dull and stodgy as the singing, which is plenty. i actually thought i'd like this more. the high-register silliness of "crow jim" is maybe okay, i dunno. but mostly what's been happening is i've got the disc in my random CD changer, and whenever i hear a cool heavy boogified guitar part coming out, it's not derek but rather tea leaf green's "ride together" or rancid vat's "destroy nature" or keith anderson's "pickin wildflowers" instead. all of which, as far as i can see, rock derek into the ground. (keith anderson's album, which i'm just now finally hearing, is really good though; thanks edd! "stick it" is totally funky swamp rock, and its words are surprisingly dirty!!)

xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 19:06 (twenty years ago)

Boy am I a blabbermouth today. Anyway, it just occured to me that a couple of Tea Leaf Green's guitar climaxes come off as improvisations on the "Layla" theme, fine with me. (Do neo-hippies think of Derek and the Dominos as a seminal jam band?) (I also keep thinking of Tom Verlaine, but that's probably just because I've never listened to Jerry Garcia much.)

xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 22:54 (twenty years ago)

ha ha, "plan b" on keith anderson's album (one of the bottom 50 percent of his songs on there, yeti still like it) sounds exactly like "could've been me" by billy ray cyrus and is about the same thing as that song too (as in, his ex winds up getting married to another guy etc.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 03:33 (twenty years ago)

nickel creek is really smarmy, in their live sets, from the bootlegs (is that the word in the digital age?) ive heard--it makes me feel uncomfortable,

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)

Big show coming to the stadium next month: Brad Paisley, Sara Evans and Billy Currington. Paisley's had some hits I liked, I'm all into Sara Evans, & I don't really know Currington apart from Shania. Is this thing worth ****$37.50**** to attend?

brianiast (briania), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:23 (twenty years ago)

not a bad price for a show like that. Currington's pretty commercial and insubstantial by my lights, but Paisley and Evans are two of the best people playing country right now.

listening to Scott Miller's "Citation" (that's a car which he borrows in the title song and in which he screws his girlfriend he's amazed he has). produced by Jim Dickinson, who has a real genius for recording drums, seems to me. so, sorta Earle-Cougar with more eccentric kick to it, probably belongs on this thread. definitely something like "Freedom's a Stranger" is "country music" or at least folkie country. touches of Mekons creep-oid guitar overlay in "Only Everything," and drums far more tribal and loose than anything attempted in Nashville (well, maybe Mark Nevers does it sometimes). I'm not especially big on Earle-Cougar heartland explorations of youth and age and all that--I have my moments with it and actually like Cougar better than Earle--but this is pretty good, esp. the blues-stomp "8 Miles a Gallon." "Cracker with a truck-stop whore," "invent a big engine, make it run on bullshit," you get the idea, I hope. somewhere in the Todd Snider territory, too. needs and deserves more listens but I like this guy, and sorry I missed his previous stuff. I think he's from Knoxville.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:59 (twenty years ago)

http://www.fatcowboy.co.uk/_frn/video/M4V10001.MP4

Discuss.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:12 (twenty years ago)

New Rosanne Cash album seemed perfectly, um, bearable for the first six tracks or so (which, hey, is more than I can say for her dad's last few albums). "Burn Down This Town" even has a beat! The rest (and actually, that song too) is stately, I suppose. I don't begrudge anybody who recently had a death in their family being moved by this record. But once it hits the halfway mark, it really starts to drag.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 21:04 (twenty years ago)

Most interesting things I learned in the new issue of *CMA Closeup*:

-- There is a female country singer named "Bomshel" (as in bombshell, apparently) who has a debut album coming out on Curb this year.

--Bluegrass band Cherryholmes, who I think I may have heard once and was bored by, have one guy in overalls with a ZZ Top beard who looks like an insane biker that could be the kentucky headhunters' grandpa.

-- Also, there is a photo of Big & Rich jumping on a bed together.

(among other things).

xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:08 (twenty years ago)

*Radio On* Style:

Willie Nelson, "Cowboys Are Frequently (Secretly Fond of Each Other)": Not as good as Ned Sublette's track on *New York Noise Vol. 2* (Soul Jazz, 2006). Also, not as good as anything on my favorite Willie Nelson album *Night and Day* (Free Falls Entertainment, 1999), which has no singing on it, interestingly enough. Disappointing. The way Willie says "fuck" is even clunkier than the rest of it. (6.5.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:07 (twenty years ago)

did we ever talk about trisha yearwood's jasper county last year? coz i'm just now getting real into it. the opening track is insane good, tho i wish it didn't get all big-chorusey.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:18 (twenty years ago)

i wrote something on the two queer willie songs, they are better then they have any right to be, and i think that they continue/solve some of the questions he brought up with the red headed stranger album

Anthony Easton, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:30 (twenty years ago)


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