Best PAVEMENT album?

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"Harness your hopes" should be on the list, eh?

― El Spinktor (El Spinktor), Thursday, 5 February 2004 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

It's funny - I thought sounding half assed was the whole point ...

― dean! (deangulberry), Thursday, 5 February 2004 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I dont know if it is the point, but thats what he's got.

― Spinktron 2000 (El Spinktor), Thursday, 5 February 2004 22:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Song for song, BTC is Pavement's most consistent album, so I'm not sure where the "half-assed" criticism is coming from. Heck, even the Spiral songs on it are pretty good if you don't listen to the lyrics too hard.

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 5 February 2004 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)

you're missing the point!

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 5 February 2004 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

and another vote for Pacific Trim for me as the most solid Pavement release - its too short for there to be any crap filler and all three songs are grate

There's an extra track on the 7" version. Dunno if you'd consider it filler or not (but it is an extra song on a 7").

― Vic Funk, Thursday, 5 February 2004 23:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Slanted & Enchanted.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 6 February 2004 00:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm happily surprised by the fact that this many people still care about Pavement.

Brighten the Corners.

― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Friday, 6 February 2004 05:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Just listened to Brighten the Corners after a long break from Pavement and it actually does hold up really well. It sounded great on a new stereo as well. I never really got their classic rock thing when it first came out. Maybe I could hear it on Embassy Row but now it really stands out over the whole album. It has a groove. Crooked Rain doesn't last for me.

― ugly nora, Friday, 6 February 2004 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)

S&E, followed by Westing...

― mmmmsalt (Graeme), Friday, 6 February 2004 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

More fighting please! This does not live up to the recommended Pavement argument level!

― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 6 February 2004 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember an interview with Malkmus in a German mag where he states that he likes Wowee Zowee best.
I vote for Crooked Rain.

― egon krenz (slaytrack), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Brighten the Zowee.

― boldbury, Wednesday, 11 February 2004 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Wowee.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

haven't read all of this, so perhaps my post is redundant, but if the last third of CR,CR was as good as the first 2/3 (or, if the last third was replaced by Watery, Domestic) it would be an EASY #1. As it is, I vote (in a very tight contest):

1. Slanted
2. Brighten
3. Crooked Rain

― chris herrington (chris herrington), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 23:08 (twenty-two years ago)

WOWEE ZOWEE

agreed with whoever noted that BTC holds up over time. a beautiful record.

nb: WZ must be played on random (or 'shuffle') for max pleasure

― Aaron A., Wednesday, 11 February 2004 23:20 (twenty-two years ago)

PAVEMENT

Wowee
Zowee!

(Brighten the Corners still sounds great. I like most of Terror Twilight..)

― daria g (daria g), Thursday, 12 February 2004 01:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Crooked Rainx2 is the jewel in the crown of the Pavement catalog.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 16 February 2004 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Slanted and Enchanted. In my opinion what sounds like "filler" when sober works when drunk etc. Put S+E on full blast when you've got a few people back after the pub's shut: there's not a wrong second.

Crooked is my second favourite, but I don't like some of the tracks.

― All Bunged Up. (Jake Proudlock), Monday, 16 February 2004 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

the first and last albums are best - s&e and tt. i hadn't listened to pavement for a while until the other night, when i saw a programme on mtv2 showing lots of their videos. i dug out their albums the next day and fell in love with them again. i've never understood the lack of love for terror twilight - "major leagues" and "spit on a stranger" are the two best ballads they ever did, and malkmus is on top form, lyrically. i played it to death when i first got it.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 16 February 2004 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)

S&E: Luxe and Reduxe.

― Andrew Unterberger (Andrew Unterberger), Monday, 16 February 2004 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

1. Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
2. S&E
3. Wowee Zowee
4. Brighten the Corners
5. Terror Twilight
Every song on CRCR is solid, and fillmore jive is one of the best songs, anyone who doesnt like fillmore jive is retarded.

― King Fame Throwa, Monday, 16 February 2004 23:05 (twenty-two years ago)

oh i forgot westing, put it in between WZ and BTC

― King Fame Throwa, Monday, 16 February 2004 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Slanted & Enchanted is the album that started it all. Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain is great, and at the time I thought it was their swan song, but it's only as good as it is in the context (IN THE SHADOW!) of S&E.

― scottontharox (scottkundla), Monday, 16 February 2004 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I once read that Filmore Jive was Steve Malkmus's father's favorite Pavement song.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

three weeks pass...

OK, I changed my mind. If WZ ended with "Flux=Rad", it would be the best.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

(flux=rad was my password to access the network at work many years ago...)

my favorite Pavement record changes constantly, looking back I think Wowee Zowee has been my favorite most frequently...

― willem (willem), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

0. Watery, Domestic...but that's an EP.
1. CRCR is the most consistently enjoyable album.
2. S&E
3. WZ
4. BTC
5. TT

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

slanted and enchanted

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Terror twilight is frustrating, lifeless, and ocassionally just half-assed, to be sure, but it has more brilliant moments than even the previous two. More really than about any band you could name has ever put on an album.

So it's the best. Though I admit thinking so requires really acknowleging and lovin the brilliance Pavement brought to their last three albums. If you think crcr can even compare, clearly you have no fondness for their spacey adventurous metal-pop tendancies.

― Brian Mowrey (Brian Mowrey), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)

This Nation's Saving Grace, I mean Slanted and Enchanted

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

wah-wah

― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)

The thing is, Brian - I've been listening to it a bit recently to try to catch up with those who advocate it on here - it is seriously tuneless. I can hear all sorts of brilliant little spacy moments, true, but most of the tunes sound like the stuff we sing aimlessly in lifts. We're all different; but without a certain amount of melody I can't engage. So, S+E, still, all the way.

― Bunged Up. (Jake Proudlock), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Surely most Pavement stuff is tuneless anyway, that's half the fun. TT has the best lyrics on it if anything.

― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Um, 'tuneless' I can't really address. Particularly if albums like Sumday and Chutes too Narrow are so generally regarded as catchy; clearly, what I think is bland is not a popular view. So, I don't have a problem with you calling the album that.

But perhaps you have not listened to the guitars. There are guitars in that album, I find. If I fuckin sang out Platform Blues' Dooo-de-doo-de-doo-de-de-WHHAMM WHHUMP WHAMM in a 'lift' I would, assuming that term refers to intoxication, never let myself see a sober day again. Fuckin best riff ever.

Though I assume you have listened to them. And that's cool too.

― Brian Mowrey (Brian Mowrey), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I quite like the album. Yeah, great lyrics, great guitars. But, and I'm not a musician, the tunes are (I should have said this instead of "tuneless") dreary and uninventive to my ears. Just an opinion.

For the person above who said that all Pavement albums are tuneless - no way. S+E has tunes coming out of its ears. And "Range Life" off CRCR is one of the monster tunes of all time.

― Bunged Up. (Jake Proudlock), Thursday, 11 March 2004 10:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm playing it.

Stone Temple Pilots, they're elegant bachelors,
They're foxy to me, are they foxy to you?

― Bunged Up. (Jake Proudlock), Thursday, 11 March 2004 10:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Please give me a time and place...we'll meet up for that Smack.

i initially read that as snack.

― jarv, Thursday, 11 March 2004 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...

hahaha

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 00:20 (nineteen years ago)

IT'S CROOKED RAIN!!!

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 08:50 (nineteen years ago)

No, I just checked the other day. It's still Wowee Zowee.

― Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

Slanted and Enchanted.

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

No, Matt's right. Reasons: a) breadth b) depth c) the sprawl d) pedal steel guitar e) [for CRCR lovers] lack of "Hit the Plane Down". Goddamn I'm gonna listen to it right now.

― ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

Well, at least a, b, and c. I think Wowee Zowee has a really admirable emotional range. The album just sounds like life to me, or my life anyway.

― Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

what i don't get is why people bleat on and on about slanted and enchanted even though it sounds like 12 different renditions of "hit the plane down".

*ducks*

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

it's 14 tracks

unless you're saying that your lying ears can at least discern the excellence of "Zurich is Stained" and "Here"

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

Mind you I think sticking Western Homes at the end of Wowee Zowee is an almost fatal error. Unless, Matt, you think your life is going to end in bad farce.

― ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Here and Trigger Cut are more or less the only S&E tracks I really really like - I can take or leave the rest.

Wowee Zowee is very good but it's more a jumble of songs rather than a consistent album. Like Troutmask etc, it's made for the random play button.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

was there a cover of "here" being played alot recently?

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

oh Tindersticks, of course. it was only getting played alot in my flat.

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

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