Ariel Pink

no way - he needs to go on howard stern. could rival victoria jackson 2012

he loves howard, it could happen

He loves Howard? Where did you hear that?

So, I know people in the Pink camp and he has a new record coming out this fall that is supposedly the greatest thing he has ever done by far.

Just saying. Love Grey Sunset.

So, I know people in the Pink camp and he has a new record coming out this fall that is supposedly the greatest thing he has ever done by far.

― kornrulez6969, Friday, August 1, 2014 6:03 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<333333 madonna and grime ethering this prick from both sides. DRAG HA!!!!

in what universe did ariel pink get ethered? pom pom will shut everyone up

“I guess it’s called ’throwback,’ but the first record was so good because of the songs. It’s been a downward slide since … ’Ray of Light’ is not cool. And all the other stuff she’s done after that, it’s not like it matters. It really shows a drain of values. People need more substance in their mac-and-cheese. People need more sugar or something.”

he's taking the piss/being rush limbaugh!! it's schtick

Fuck grimes

Who gives a fuck if it's a schtick, what a creep

he's like, semi-coherent and rambling half the time. it's creepy but do we really care what he says about stuff or expect him to be politically conscious and self-reflective?

I don't know that I "care" but it's like wow he seems like a dick

A.P. is wrong about when the slide began. True Blue is a great album

If it is schtick it's massively tiresome and unfunny, I still like some of AP's music but the guy comes across as more and more dickish with every interview he gives.

what's even more schticky is his bullshit psychedelia-fetishizing lo-fi music with lyrics about battleship and sausage. at least sun kil moon released an incredibly poignant album this year before kozelek decided to go full-troll on a band over sound bleed

ariel pink is def a total dick without a doubbt but i still fuck w/ those earlier albums. doldrums and worn copy are pretty amazing imo

house arrest too

i'm way over this dude

I still have not been to a live show worse than this guy.

I saw him when he toured with Os Mutantes & was mildly amused by how much his live set sounded like his recordings. He's just gross though.

He badly sang over a cassette player or something and then threw a big grown manbaby temper tantrum over the bad sound. Fucking worst. Also, his early albums sucked as much as his new stuff, don't play yourselves.

I like some of his songs a lot

sometimes it helps to just distinguish the records and the person, I think that applies here

but the trouble with knowing someone is a kind of a jerk is that then, once you know that, when you listen to their music you start to imagine their self-understanding as they listen to themselves and it gets gross, like breathing inside a rubber halloween mask- there's no more space because "the person" and "the art" got suffocatingly proximate.

that's why I like working on Shakespeare. we've got all this great art and know very, very little about him outside of the context of the art itself. it's nice to not know sometimes. Not that I would assume he would be a dick, but I'd just rather push off from the art.

I would rather only listen to music made by righteous and awesome people tbh

sure, it's a bonus definitely

i assume most of the time that maybe 40%-60% of the artists i listen to may not be pleasant people.

also i simply do not take it as a prerequisite for liking an artist that they must put on a great live performance

Also, his early albums sucked as much as his new stuff, don't play yourselves.

oh SHIT dude, thanks! you were right all along! thanks for engaging w/ my tastes enough that you realized i was just playing myself!! maybe i can list other albums i've enjoyed and you can tell me whether i'm mistaken?

lol

I have never had the real-life experience of anybody listening to more than 2/3rds of a single Ariel Pink song before switching it off

That's completely at odds with marcos' taste

Hey.. I enjoyed Can't Hear My Eyes... especially the ending is great..

Anyway, I thought it was already obvious that Ariel Pink seems happy saying polarizing/half-baked/easily misunderstood things as a "talking head". You know, since the beta male rape thing.

but the trouble with knowing someone is a kind of a jerk is that then, once you know that, when you listen to their music you start to imagine their self-understanding as they listen to themselves and it gets gross, like breathing inside a rubber halloween mask- there's no more space because "the person" and "the art" got suffocatingly proximate.

This is so goddamn well put.

I'm beginning to think that Ariel Pink is intentionally generating these blog-magnet misogynistic quotes just so people stop assuming that he's a woman

What's mysogynistic about not liking Madonna?

It wouldn't necessarily be if this were the first example of stupid shit that he said

Pretty sure most people just assumed he was a pile of shit xp

booming post the tune is space

I dunno I have had absolutely no problem with deleting/selling/ignoring the music of Ariel Pink 50 Cent Chuck D R Kelly Stephin Merritt at the very moment they reveal themselves as terrible assholes / harass a friend / hit a teacher / etc. etc. etc. I never got the "love the art / hate the artist" argument, I just say "gbyeeeeee" and that's the end of it

godspeed black you emperor emperor emperor emperor emperor emperor

I wish they'd change their name to G'BYE!

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fgti I felt the post was booming even though I generally align fretful good i.e. I'm with you, I don't listen to Burzum or Wagner, "there's plenty of great music by people who aren't pieces of shit" is my well-worn motto

Imma let you finish fgti ;)

I see two constants in Ariel Pink's career: 1) He makes fantastic, unique music (even though I do prefer the early records), 2) Ever since he shot to fame he's been an asshole in nearly every interview he's done, plus shenanigans. He seems lost in his fame, and there's no excuse for assholeism. But it doesn't make me want to throw away his music, which is great.

Ariel Pink is not famous.

i feel like this dichotomy is always bizarrely stated on ilx, maybe bc that's how the puritans understand it. but it's not "the music is too good to ignore bc the person is bad" v. "the person is bad it's wrong to listen to the music (and besides there's other good music)." i don't feel any kind of moral involvement in the music i listen to (or movies i watch, games i play, etc). if the person is bad that can be an important part of the art - you don't need to separate them out - and it can even enrich your understanding of the artifact. there's no obligation to shield your eyes from the acts of evil men. just don't be a bad person yourself.

yeah, most 18th century authors were probably anti semites and couldn't care less about women suffrage.

Both Ariel Pink and Grimes are petty jerks nonetheless.

grimes is not a petty jerk

wait why is Grimes a petty jerk?

Her break up with Arbutus was idiotic, selfish and petty.

Mordy otm

if you genuinely read the accusations against the-dream and deleted all your files of the-dream, or belatedly heard what lindsey buckingham's ex said about him in her memoir and tossed your copy of rumours, etc etc, than...that's cool! you should be proud of yourself. personally, i feel like telling myself "i don't supporting the creative efforts of bad people" would lead to me rationalizing things away to maintain that pious state (if no r kelly, no aerosmith? no chris brown, no james brown? michael jackson?). so instead i just try to not to assume valor on the part of artists just because of their work/pr, and if i do or do not want to listen to an album because i've heard something awful about them, so be it. there certainly have been artists whose charges against them were so noxious i didn't want to engage with their work, but stepping from that to "i don't support bad people" is just a degree of self-flattery i can't take. instead i have to settle for "don't assume people who've made creative works you enjoy are good people, and try to be respectful of possible victims in how you speak about their alleged abusers."