pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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garden state is shit (#31467846953264847 in a series)

wins, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 17:08 (eleven years ago)

I've noticed a really irritating trend. So many of my favorite albums this year - like YG, tune-yards and Owen Pallett - has gotten 8.1 or 8.2, without a bnm-nod. Which, I mean, who cares, but the reviews never ever bother explaining why these albums - some of them from artists who were bnm'd before - weren't quite good enough this time. And todays review of Shabazz Palaces is just weird. It ends like this: The soul of Shabazz Palaces is pairing next-gen sounds with classic brass-tacks show-and-prove emceeing, and Lese Majesty tugs those extremes as far as they've ever been pulled; that it never shows signs of wear speaks to the strength of the bond. How is that not a bnm? Tugging next-gen sounds as far as they've ever been pulled? But there's nothing in the review taking it down. It just seems as if they've completely giving up on the idea of innovation being anything to be aplauded.

On another note, no hip-hop albums have been bnm'd this year. The only bnm'd black artists - afaict - are Beyoncé and the Hyperdub-comp. They've really become Mojo for hipsters, haven't they?

Frederik B, Monday, 28 July 2014 15:31 (eleven years ago)

I'm furiously tugging next-gen over here

some dude, Monday, 28 July 2014 15:36 (eleven years ago)

there it is

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Monday, 28 July 2014 15:38 (eleven years ago)

It's been established that reviewers don't assign BNM so the language of the review has nothing to do with whether it gets BNM or not. That said, they should just stop doing BNM because it's weird and confusing.

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 28 July 2014 15:50 (eleven years ago)

I don't think the reviewers assign the ratings either?

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 28 July 2014 15:51 (eleven years ago)

That said, they should just stop doing BNM because it's weird and confusing.

Maybe but it is a go-to for people who aren't hardcore music nerds and just want a cool playlist for their Hanukkah party, I've seen it happen.

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 28 July 2014 15:53 (eleven years ago)

Shabazz Palaces would be great at a Hanukkah party, give it BNM now.

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 28 July 2014 15:55 (eleven years ago)

bnm is for ppl w/ lives/jobs

balls, Monday, 28 July 2014 15:57 (eleven years ago)

Basic New Music

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 28 July 2014 16:02 (eleven years ago)

https://twitter.com/djperry1973/status/493789133601394690 <-- logical endpoint

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Monday, 28 July 2014 16:08 (eleven years ago)

I don't think the reviewers assign the ratings either?

― Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, July 28, 2014 11:51 AM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is not true

le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 July 2014 16:33 (eleven years ago)

yeah this canard comes up fairly regularly itt

for sale: Bebe's boots, never worn (DJ Mencap), Monday, 28 July 2014 16:46 (eleven years ago)

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l2oic3J0vk1qz9rjn.gif

dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 July 2014 18:12 (eleven years ago)

you're gonna break out your box sets this week aren't you

go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 28 July 2014 18:17 (eleven years ago)

more braffology!

http://www.stereogum.com/1694425/premature-evaluation-spoon-they-want-my-soul/franchises/premature-evaluation/

here’s a moment on Spoon’s new song “Outlier” where Britt Daniel sneaks a sharp splinter of film criticism into one of the tough, terse, personal songs that Spoon is so known for: “I remember when you walked out of Garden State / You had taste, you had taste / You had no time to waste.” Imagine Zach Braff’s face when he hears that song — because you know he’ll hear it. As a guy who was making slick, broadly appealing indie rock in the early ’00s, Daniel probably indirectly made some money off of Garden State, and Joe Chiccarelli, the longtime music-biz insider who co-produced “Outlier,” previously produced the life-changing Shins’ Wincing the Night Away. Point is, that tossed-off dis, really just an aside in the song, is a potential bridge-burner, and most big-indie frontmen in 2014 aren’t in the business of burning bridges, at least not consciously. But Daniel has always carried himself above the fray, with a slight sneer in his voice and a clear sense of purpose in his melodies. And if he wants to say “fuck that” about something, he’s going to do it. That’s a minor moment on Spoon’s new album They Want My Soul, but it’s a telling one, and it shows off the haughty confidence that has always set both Daniel and his band apart. Spoon carry themselves with a certain strut, and it’s been too long since we’ve heard that strut in action.

j., Monday, 28 July 2014 19:33 (eleven years ago)

whoa that beat that one to death.

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 28 July 2014 19:45 (eleven years ago)

i mean its kind of a funny line to take note of but to use it as like mathematical proof that britt daniel is a badass is kinda sad

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 28 July 2014 19:45 (eleven years ago)

it’s been too long since we’ve heard that strut in action.

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 July 2014 19:48 (eleven years ago)

Maybe Britt Daniel is talking about that time she walked out of the State of New Jersey.

voodoo chili, Monday, 28 July 2014 19:55 (eleven years ago)

strutted out of new jersey

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 July 2014 19:58 (eleven years ago)

I saw Britt Daniel at Pitchfork Fest six years ago in cargo shorts and high tops in the Chipotle line: he wasn't bad ass.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 July 2014 19:58 (eleven years ago)

That review is trying a bit hard to turn being a spoon fan into a sign you're a fearless ice-cold mfer.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 28 July 2014 20:01 (eleven years ago)

It would be pretty easy to read that line as sarcastic too.

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 28 July 2014 20:02 (eleven years ago)

cargo shorts are pretty badass, lots of pocket space for more handguns

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 July 2014 20:07 (eleven years ago)

or burritos

bnw, Monday, 28 July 2014 20:09 (eleven years ago)

i bet you could rob ppl for a lot of burritos at pitchfork fest

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 July 2014 20:10 (eleven years ago)

Imagine Zach Braff’s face when you steal his burrito

tylerw, Monday, 28 July 2014 20:12 (eleven years ago)

in one of Britt Daniels' cargo shorts pockets is a interdimensional portal back to Austin, through which he rides on a burrito

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 July 2014 20:13 (eleven years ago)

the one place i ever saw britt daniel was in the pearl district in portland buying truffles at a boutique chocolate place called "moonstruck", no hirschberg

difficult listening hour, Monday, 28 July 2014 20:22 (eleven years ago)

burritos, truffles, he's a gourmand, that Britt

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 July 2014 20:23 (eleven years ago)

burritos, truffles in my palm HANH
be like he's a gourmand HANH

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 July 2014 21:12 (eleven years ago)

lmao i've seen Britt Daniels irl and he was eating a burrito

een, Monday, 28 July 2014 21:19 (eleven years ago)

Ha I was thinking

the one place i ever saw britt daniel was in the pearl district in portland buying truffles at a boutique chocolate place called "moonstruck", no hirschberg

this place has insanely good milkshakes btw

Clay, Monday, 28 July 2014 21:46 (eleven years ago)

lol at the idea that burning your bridges with Zach Braff is a risky move. Weird to see another article way overstating the importance of that dude for indie music in 2014.

Man, when I tell you she was cool, she was red hot, I mean she was (intheblanks), Monday, 28 July 2014 22:00 (eleven years ago)

i've seen scrubs a few times -- if you cross braff, he'll prank you in a way that is hilarious but will also make you *think*

tylerw, Monday, 28 July 2014 22:07 (eleven years ago)

hospital television shows

David Schramm (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 July 2014 22:26 (eleven years ago)

greenday time of your life E.R. scene

David Schramm (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 July 2014 22:27 (eleven years ago)

braff's entire career is just trying to make that scene over and over

David Schramm (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 July 2014 22:27 (eleven years ago)

I kinda dug Scrubs tbh

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 July 2014 22:58 (eleven years ago)

if they've completely giving up on the idea of innovation being anything to be aplauded.

I hope so. "innovation" is a false god

Οὖτις, Monday, 28 July 2014 23:20 (eleven years ago)

"innovation" may be false, but what about innovation?

David Schramm (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 July 2014 23:21 (eleven years ago)

Britt Daniel sneaks a sharp splinter of film criticism into one of the tough, terse, personal songs that Spoon is so known for:

lol is this really what he's "known for", I have never had more than the barest glimmer of understanding of what any of his songs are about beyond the most obvious (Sister Jack etc)

Οὖτις, Monday, 28 July 2014 23:22 (eleven years ago)

innovation is more about technology, not so much about aesthetics. I don't really care about technology and it's false sense of progress. music is not about progress.

Οὖτις, Monday, 28 July 2014 23:24 (eleven years ago)

wait, what is false about the progress in say medical technology?

David Schramm (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 July 2014 23:26 (eleven years ago)

tons of things that were marketed as progress courtesy of technology have turned out to be detrimental - the idea that because something is new it is better than what came before (the very essence of the concept of progress) is, how you say, problematic

Οὖτις, Monday, 28 July 2014 23:32 (eleven years ago)

ah, so you meant 'technology and its sometimes false sense of progress'

David Schramm (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 July 2014 23:37 (eleven years ago)

I love Spoon and I have no idea what their songs are "about," Sister Jack included, this is part of the appeal tbh

anonanon, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 02:56 (eleven years ago)

i'm pretty sure i know what fitted shirt is about

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 03:02 (eleven years ago)

rolling burrito with a spoon thread

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 03:19 (eleven years ago)


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