i can't remember! he said some names and i'm not sure whether he said they were actually in tortoise or if they were "tortoise-y guys"...cooper from cave is still producing though, which is cool -- the first album had a great overall sound.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 21:29 (eleven years ago)
that's coolhe is everywhere!
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 21:35 (eleven years ago)
is there a Cave thread because I need a new Cave record
― alpine static, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 22:04 (eleven years ago)
the band CAVE
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 22:05 (eleven years ago)
BOOM! How lazy am I? (Thanks LL.)
― alpine static, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 22:11 (eleven years ago)
there's a lot of tortoisey guys in chicago
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 July 2014 01:23 (eleven years ago)
That Chicago scene does seem ridiculously incestuous but, if this doesn't stupidly offensive, in a <i>good</i> way.Ryler Walker with Chad Taylor and Rob Mazurek does sound like a winner.
― Poacher (Chinaski), Friday, 18 July 2014 15:16 (eleven years ago)
Yeah, that Sam Prekop solo album with those dudes and O'Rourke producing/playing, plus other Chicago folks, is a really gorgeous album still based around the guitars of Prekop/Archer Prewitt. I imagine that a Ryley Walker album would sound pretty great with a similar treatment/cast of players.
― grandavis, Friday, 18 July 2014 15:25 (eleven years ago)
Aye, totally. That album is quietly glorious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veVKdRK0RTY
― Poacher (Chinaski), Friday, 18 July 2014 15:53 (eleven years ago)
thx for the reminder, i have really enjoyed that LP in the past. speaking of o'rourke, it still kind of irks me that he hasn't made at least two or three albums along the lines of Bad Timing.
― tylerw, Friday, 18 July 2014 15:58 (eleven years ago)
halfway to a threeway by o'rourke was great
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 July 2014 16:01 (eleven years ago)
I've got the first brokeback LP, which is a really stellar album kind of in this vein.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 18 July 2014 16:02 (eleven years ago)
i mean, most of the stuff i've heard from o'rourke is great (or at least interesting). just funny that he completely left behind the bad timing vibe for the most part (at least as far as I know, maybe there's something like that I haven't heard).
― tylerw, Friday, 18 July 2014 16:03 (eleven years ago)
speaking of o'rourke, it still kind of irks me that he hasn't made at least two or three albums along the lines of Bad Timing
Very much agree with that. I guess Halfway to Threeway is stylistically the closest, though it's probably closer to Eureka.
― Poacher (Chinaski), Friday, 18 July 2014 16:05 (eleven years ago)
now i've been sent off on one of my periodic "what is jim o'rourke doing now" quests. (i know he's been doing that archival stuff on bandcamp)this is great!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-HeoEJyvnM
― tylerw, Friday, 18 July 2014 16:14 (eleven years ago)
he hasn't forgotten about bad timing anyway -- he starts playing something from it around the 7-minute mark
― tylerw, Friday, 18 July 2014 16:17 (eleven years ago)
I interviewed Charlie Parr last week and listened to "Hollandale" quite a bit this week and it made me wonder if perhaps folks on this thread might've missed it because Charlie is so strongly associated with old-time folk/blues stuff.
"Hollandale" is excellent, imo. Much more in line with this thread's wheelhouse. Long, rambling instrumentals, still bluesy in places, but more experimental, more progressive, more airy than much of the stuff he's done before. Much more based around drone.
Charlie told me he's a *huge* fan of Fahey/Basho/Lang, and Gunn/Nugent, and "weirder guys" like Orcutt/Metzger. He says that's pretty much what he listens to on his own time, and what he tends to play when he's not practicing, writing or performing his own music.
Anyway, he told Alan Sparhawk he wanted to record some of his own instrumental stuff someday and Sparhawk sort-of-secretly (not really but y'know) got him to come over and play and just do it.
So "Hollandale" is the result of that, and I think it's beautiful stuff, so if your eyes have passed over Parr recently because of the rest of his catalog (not that it's not great, just different), maybe give it a shot.
― alpine static, Friday, 18 July 2014 16:17 (eleven years ago)
i'm a big fan of charlie, obv here in MN he plays quite regular, got to see him open for spider john koerner which was pretty amazing on both counts, obv spider john is one of the last true old legends...i'm sure he and metzger know each other from around
but yeah i like his old timey stuff a ton and hollandale was a very cool break from it as well, but by all accounts a first class dude
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 July 2014 16:23 (eleven years ago)
Parr is pretty cool, but I haven't heard "Hollandale", will try to check it out. That O'Rourke clip above is good, nice to see him cutting loose a bit, but not what I was expecting at all. Still wearing the sweater though, which is exactly what you would expect.
― grandavis, Friday, 18 July 2014 16:56 (eleven years ago)
Listening to Hollandale now and is it indeed very good, esp the driftier and dreamier stuff like the title track and the first of the two 'Paul Bunyan' songs. I am definitely one of the folks alpine describes above who has always avoided Parr because of the old-timey elements, but this album provides a nice entry point. Press materials boast that it is "like nothing you've heard," and I think that's perhaps a bit hyperbolic - more "like nothing you've heard Charlie Parr do." But that's OK. Good stuff.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Sunday, 20 July 2014 15:11 (eleven years ago)
Yeah, I'm into this. It'd be cool to see him play a show centered on this sort of style, but I doubt he'd do that
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 21 July 2014 13:15 (eleven years ago)
a friend alerted me to this dude -https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000041750856-wctt4a-t500x500.jpg?e76cf77sounds so nice -- a couple tracks on soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/dbazemon/bicycle-townfriend says: "Attention fellow Guitar Soli enthusiasts (assuming that includes most of my friends here), a little while back I found an lp of solo acoustic guitar music by Lincoln, NE’s Dennis Taylor that seems to be languishing in unfair obscurity (very little information on google, no reviews that I could find, etc. ). I wrote him to see if he had any additional copies as I know some of you would be into it, but unfortunately he does not (it was pressed in an edition of 300 copies, which he sold out of in the late 80s). It is an exceedingly lovely album, obviously coming from a post-Fahey angle at times, but the all-original compositions are all really strong & melodic (and according to the liner notes inspired by Baha’I writings) and the playing is gorgeously fleet and assured. Felt the same sense of excitement I felt when hearing Richard Crandell’s lp for the first time. Dennis has put a few of the tracks on Soundcloud, you should check them out…"
― tylerw, Monday, 21 July 2014 15:05 (eleven years ago)
love it. he looks pretty young on that cover, would be curious to hear more about his story. found this video, I presume it's him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xymO_U7AW0
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 21 July 2014 15:15 (eleven years ago)
Considering the still on that youtube is exactly the same pose as the album cover... honestly amazing how exact it is. All the angles are the same. Yeah it's a safe bet.
― Evan, Monday, 21 July 2014 18:54 (eleven years ago)
good stuff here : http://www.npr.org/event/music/331991395/marisa-anderson-tiny-desk-concert
― tylerw, Monday, 21 July 2014 18:56 (eleven years ago)
Dennis' soundcloud page up there is full of great stuff. I dunno why but there's quite a few solo guitar players that are also bass guys. I grew up playing bass too. Either way I'm surprised how his album has never shown up anywhere. I'm at work and not sure if the whole album was put up anywhere yet?
Recent playing is still real good, lots of bashoy hammer-ons/offs too, like it.
― Neal Cassady, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 00:04 (eleven years ago)
yeah Evan wow! i didn't notice how he's in the exact same pose. crazy
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 01:08 (eleven years ago)
I was a bassist my whole life until whenever I started this thread, never did more than mess around w a six string. I guess maybe I caught on decent because I was used to playing w thumb and fingers
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 01:44 (eleven years ago)
OK here we go:The Old Familiar Chime Guitar FestivalTurf Club, St. PaulSept. 19
Glenn JonesMichael ChapmanSir Richard BishopSpider John KoernrSteve GunnAlexander TurnquistMatthew De Gennaro
Heard about this from my friend at the Forsyth show, was hard not to spill the beans
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 14:55 (eleven years ago)
Doh Koerner of Koerner Ray & Glover
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 14:57 (eleven years ago)
omg
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 15:06 (eleven years ago)
Whoa, crazy line-up for Chapman/Jones/Bishop/Gunn alone. Sincerely hope you are planning on being in town that week.
― grandavis, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 15:07 (eleven years ago)
Yeah it's amazing& Spider John is great, doesn't play out much anymore.... He taught Dylan to play!
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 15:12 (eleven years ago)
!!!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 15:46 (eleven years ago)
I saw a tiny little bit of Spider John on Saturday he's still great.
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 15:49 (eleven years ago)
man i wish i could make it back for that
― gbx, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 16:22 (eleven years ago)
would go (if i weren't on the other side of the world), oh well. i assume that's the matt de gennaro who collaborated with alastair galbraith on various piano wire performances/releases in the nineties?
― no lime tangier, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 16:51 (eleven years ago)
That is definitely the same Matthew De Gennaro. He had a record out on Soft Abuse recently that is talked about upthread. What I have heard from that record is really good, a mix of droney fiddle and acoustic guitar (from what I remember). Cool stuff, but obviously I need to check it out again.
― grandavis, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 17:00 (eleven years ago)
Yep, the guy that runs soft abuse (Chris) put this fest together
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 18:21 (eleven years ago)
re Parr:
Yeah, I'm into this. It'd be cool to see him play a show centered on this sort of style, but I doubt he'd do that― global tetrahedron, Monday, July 21, 2014 6:15 AM (Yesterday)
― global tetrahedron, Monday, July 21, 2014 6:15 AM (Yesterday)
yeah, he pretty much told me straight up that he doesn't really do that stuff live, mostly out of fear of turning off people who came to see him based on his back catalog, or causing confusion at the merch table (i.e. "yeah, none of these CDs we have for sale sound like what he just played"). he said he'll occasionally be playing a song and some section of it will remind him of a "Hollandale" bit, and he'll go off and explore that before bringing it back home ... but that's about it. can't imagine full shows of the stuff unless for some reason the record takes off, he records more of it, etc.
i'd love to see a show like that, too.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 06:14 (eleven years ago)
Parr is a two finger player right? Some of that material on Hollandale is surprising. really good
― Neal Cassady, Thursday, 24 July 2014 02:53 (eleven years ago)
Parr is one of the few old timey people out there who can really do it and make it feel vital
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 July 2014 13:51 (eleven years ago)
yeah it doesn't feel like a costume or tacky or anything, just feels like a guy super into that music. i'm not sure if he's a two finger player, some of the patterns sound like three fingered ones, though, that'd be super impressive
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 24 July 2014 14:02 (eleven years ago)
Lang admires Parr and says his parents were big labor movement people and unionists in Austin MN so a lot of his folk bent comes from that
Can't remember if he plays w 2 fingersLang is two fingers
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 July 2014 14:12 (eleven years ago)
so i saw Parr earlier this week for the first time. just tremendous. i didn't notice 2 vs 3 fingers...i'm not that observant, ha.
my little town gets a lot of young, 4/5/6-piece blues/grass/hoot/hooler/jugband/punk shtick bands through here (think early Avetts), dozens since the beginning of the year alone, and none of 'em can do it like Parr does it on his own.
― alpine static, Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:13 (eleven years ago)
wish he'd had Hollandale on vinyl, but i picked up Barnswallow instead
It is a really fine line. My town has been full of these "revivalist" hoot-n-holler bands for years, and it is generally not my thing at all, and yet I can go see/listen to The Black Twig Pickers all day. I imagine that the context of who the B. Twig Pickers are is part of it, but there is an inherent feel and approach to their stuff that somehow keeps it in my wheelhouse in ways most of these bands don't.
― grandavis, Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:18 (eleven years ago)
Gonna go ahead and post my latest Dais Queue live set here (from this past Wednesday). It's all solo guitar of one kind or another, but a lot of minimal moves and extended technique stuff, so keep that in mind if tuning in. Happy with the recording though.
http://daisqueue.bandcamp.com/track/dais-queue-live-07-24-2014
Happened to be at the end one of the crappiest days I have had in quite some time on the back end of a crappy month, so I was worried that the show would devolve into an angsty mess, but instead I think I went to a better place despite it all. Don't know what I would do if I couldn't play guitar through an amp at volume in a room every now and again.
― grandavis, Friday, 25 July 2014 18:21 (eleven years ago)
this is great so far...reminds me a bit of steve reich
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 July 2014 20:48 (eleven years ago)
Cool, thanks! Definitely milking my love for that stuff, and the overtones available in open tunings.
― grandavis, Friday, 25 July 2014 21:04 (eleven years ago)