Lana Del Rey

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Pretty much how I feel. I'm won over by her Method commitment to one strange idea and by how bizarrely successful it's proven to be

Sums it up nicely - even though a song or two from her are enough for me.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 23 June 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link

Oh fuck her Method commitment or whatever else

Yeah well it's not that she should win an Oscar or anything but it's a much better way of seeing her than going on about authenticity and the like.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 23 June 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link

loving this album, honestly

it's weird when I think about how much of the guitar n voice palette taps into a seam of LA slowcore-psyche-rock (Acetone guitar parts, Mazzy Star vocals) that I would have thought would be Least Likely To Succeed as pop materials in 2014 - but they work (for me)

the tune was space, Monday, 23 June 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link

i really heard the mazzy star on the new stuff i've heard.

scott seward, Monday, 23 June 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link

i don't remember thinking of them when the last album came out.

scott seward, Monday, 23 June 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link

good heroin album. which is timely. since everyone is on heroin now.

scott seward, Monday, 23 June 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link

like compare this guitar tone and the vibe of sunny California despair (Richie Lee killed himself after this album came out) in this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWtMEP6Iiwg

with the guitar solo at the peak of Lana's "Shades of Cool" (and for that matter, the aura of sunny California despair oozing out of the whole record)

maybe I'm projecting but it seems apt

and def a Mazzy Star spacey-childwoman thing vocally

the tune was space, Monday, 23 June 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link

yeah they should get joan didion to review it. the doomed and medicated and sexy cali thing.

scott seward, Monday, 23 June 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link

"the lyrics are like charm bracelets of bad girl clichés, wishful/aspirational thinking, and "doomed femme fatale / Sphinx" posturing"

dug this by the way...

wondering if it might work even better if the bracelets were STRUNG with bad girl cliches, etc, etc...

charms are strung, right?

in any case, i'll be stealing that to use in something else at a later date. ty, dd.

scott seward, Monday, 23 June 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link

listening to this again, take it back, this is great

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link

too long though! really long

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link

ayeeee florida keys is terrible! is this a bonus track! starts with that yucky dave matthews band guitar shit, barfff

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link

Really wish this was an EP or just a video album - annoyed by how constantly risk-averse it is.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 26 June 2014 07:18 (nine years ago) link

sad to see people i like waste words on this stupid bullshit tbh

mattresslessness, Thursday, 26 June 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link

i don't like lana del rey, w/e. *steps out*

mattresslessness, Thursday, 26 June 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link

yeah a few songs could have been scrapped. and i still wish it had a song as strong as Ride. but otherwise I think it's great.

akm, Friday, 27 June 2014 05:06 (nine years ago) link

I hate comparing, but Ultraviolence is feeling like a new interstate highway version of an old-school Meat Loaf/Jim Steinman creation. Everything ridiculous and epic all the time. I dunno, I guess if I had the cash and opportunity Grant and Auerbach have to make their own version of Bat Out Of Hell, then why the hell not.

It's so weird seeing how far Dan and Patrick have gone from that weird paranoid time in 2002 when we were all in my car on Rowena in front of Thai-American Burger and Dan said they had never heard of the Pretty Things. Had to listen to "L.S.D." immediately. I think they got it.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 27 June 2014 06:38 (nine years ago) link

And congrats to LDR for mining a new vein whatever this kind of pop creation is. I welcome the oncoming Gap commercials.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 27 June 2014 06:40 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

get excited everybody there's a new thinkpiece

http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/full-time-daughter/

Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 12:37 (nine years ago) link

they did a whole ldr thinkpiece supplement, which nah

this one is cool though

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 13:16 (nine years ago) link

Lazy writing

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 13:57 (nine years ago) link

<3 the piece

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 14:07 (nine years ago) link

wtf that article. like, ldr is a white girl who evokes white america by exuding all-consuming whiteness

Lee626, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link

Plus musicians invoke sex and death shocker.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link

Wow this is some horseshit. I started to c&p the worst unsupported generalisations and then realised I'd have to do the whole thing. So I'll just c&p this dreadful pun instead: an eternal hard-on of the spotless mind

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

The extended talk about her lips seemed just a bit unnecessary.

Greer, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link

It reads like the kind of shit that only makes sense when you're gorging on theory for the first time as an undergraduate and you think words like phallogocentrism are fun.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link

It reads like the kind of shit that only makes sense when you're gorging on theory for the first time as an undergraduate and you think words like phallogocentrism are fun.

i mean, capsule description of the new inquiry

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

Is it all that bad? Pretentious I can handle but this is intellectually rotten from the ground up.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link

this is hilarious because i don't hate this piece but generally dislike their thing

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link

How can you not hate that piece? smh

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link

idk! it seems a reasonable anatomization of ldr's performance of whiteness as it relates to blackness? a lot of its descriptions of her performance read as right to me, especially the paragraph about awkwardness. the lips paragraph is a reach, and the framing is off (this promotional cycle white dude critics are completely transfixed by ldr, not unconvinced; most of the nuanced critiques of her i've encountered lately are by women)

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link

but also i don't know anything about anything so maybe for once generalized faux-intellecualism raptured me away ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link

I know no men "transfixed" by her, only style-blog gals I know.

everybody chives this is nowhere (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link

We recoil from race-based generalisations because they're racist but they're also false. They might become less racist if the people you're generalising about are white but they don't become any less false.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 18:19 (nine years ago) link

Just one example…

In the context of American whiteness’s paranoid relation to what it perceives as the blood taint of blackness (which is also the taint of white guilt), false full lips might be deeply preferable to a real full mouth, even if they are superficially derided.

Unless you're ScarJo, Angelina, Brigitte Bardot, etc etc

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

http://38.media.tumblr.com/22a7424ff5176432c760a811b9f189c5/tumblr_n8rvziHQKA1rq171wo1_500.png

she was also mentioned on the cover of the last issue. WOMEN IN ROCK!!!

maura, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

I know no men "transfixed" by her, only style-blog gals I know.

― everybody chives this is nowhere (Eazy), Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:12 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you might say lots of men find her very "annoying"

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link

ha

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link

Doesn't look like anyone's mentioned her version of "Once Upon A Dream" from Maleficent? I like that one a lot, ymmv.

Both jaunty and authentic (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link

Couldn't read past this:

"Del Rey’s whiteness is unstable because it seems somehow faintly disturbed by the knowledge of its formation. Why else the death wish? Why else do her lips circulate independently of her face?"

Which, no matter how many times I read it, is entirely devoid of any meaning.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link

my eyes could not focus on anything in that piece

guwop (crüt), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link

Fundamental to the article's falseness is her assumption that whiteness in America is riddled with guilt. Even if she thinks it should be, there's no evidence that it is for most white Americans, certainly not enough that it would play into the aesthetic of someone like LDR.

Kind of waiting for Lex to come back and explain why he loves this but maybe his work here is done.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

It's a funnily shitty piece, at least

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link

Um btw American whiteness is riddled bigtime w guilt for a certain amount of white women of various identities on various social media, right or wrong. Felt like that ws who who they were writing for/as

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

Oh yeah sure, for some people it is but the piece is so full of generalisations I can't tell who she thinks she's talking about. Given that LDR shrugs when she's asked a mild question about feminism, I don't imagine she's losing any sleep over the legacy of slavery.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link

the image of lips circulating independently of the face reminds me of this

http://youtu.be/bvXKBdkg7MM?t=1m23s

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link

would watch a LDR version of Not I

one way street, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link

https://vine.co/v/MQhgrH9lnT2

everybody chives this is nowhere (Eazy), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link

\the image of lips circulating independently of the face reminds me of this

my first thought was the billy idol video for Eyes Without a Face

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link


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