I would like to say that he meant to say "unfortunately" but I really can't.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:22 (seventeen years ago)
ts:
"At the end of the day, what Rihanna and Chris went through is nothing different than what couples go through every day,"
vs
When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion.
"Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.'s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.
"Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle ... and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it.
"Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F.'s left and right carotid arteries, causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness.
― and how (omar little), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:23 (seventeen years ago)
akon also once claimed to have a secret hit on the country charts so speaking of fruit loops
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:23 (seventeen years ago)
Rascal Flats feat. Akon
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:25 (seventeen years ago)
"who went into exile and/or were seen as a fruit loop for the rest of their life"
Uh not quite.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:25 (seventeen years ago)
maybe he's taylor swift
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:25 (seventeen years ago)
michael jackson, r kelly, phil spector, roman polanski, bobby brown all seem to fit this bill. if you really want to say "oh but james brown maybe chris brown is like that" go ahead.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:26 (seventeen years ago)
Roman Polanski left this country (for a number of reasons) but from day one there were a huge number of Polanski apologists (hell they released a Polanski apology film last year) and it's pretty hard to argue it's hurt him in the artistic accolades department.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:29 (seventeen years ago)
I agree with Dan though. This is a silly game.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:30 (seventeen years ago)
esp when you bring up "the artistic accolades dept" when comparing roman polanski to chris brown.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:32 (seventeen years ago)
Forget it, Jake. It's "Run It!"
― blame it on the HOOS got you steenin' loose (some dude), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:34 (seventeen years ago)
I was bringing it up in comparison to seen as a fruit loop for the rest of his life actually, but whatever. Sleep secure in the knowledge that his career is over. I hope you are right.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:36 (seventeen years ago)
i guess you missed the "and/or"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:37 (seventeen years ago)
I didn't miss the fact that you have no clue what you are talking about though.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:38 (seventeen years ago)
Spector and MJ both had hits well after their erm, "eccentricities" became well known. Ike too.
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:43 (seventeen years ago)
MJ took fucking MacAuley Culkin to the Grammys for chrissakes
Yeah but those were real artists not teeny-bopper empty suits like Chris Brown so you can't compare them anyway.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:44 (seventeen years ago)
since we're clearly still playing the mug's game, let's try to imagine how michael's career might have been different if he was arrested for sucking off a little boy when he was 19.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:49 (seventeen years ago)
Dude, you should have quit about fifteen posts ago. Your idiocy is showing.
― legendary North American forest ape (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:53 (seventeen years ago)
i think he was mocking - miccio's last post otm
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:54 (seventeen years ago)
don't think anyone's mentioned jerry lee lewis - which is an (admittedly dated) example of scandal taking down a talented pop career for good
― iatee, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:59 (seventeen years ago)
you have to remember we're working in a context where ike turner's done just fine
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:01 (seventeen years ago)
yeah but if picture of tina turner beaten half to death had been plastered on the cover of people magazine or whatever, might be different?
― iatee, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:06 (seventeen years ago)
Spector and MJ both had hits well after their erm, "eccentricities" became well known. Ike too.― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:43 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkMJ took fucking MacAuley Culkin to the Grammys for chrissakes― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:43 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:43 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Jackson takes Culkin to the Grammys: 1991/1992Jackson is accused of molesting children: 1993
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:07 (seventeen years ago)
also what is really the timeline on Spector become well known for his troubles (beyond the usual "perfectionist"/"difficult" tags that are easy to initially handwave when someone is hugely successful and revered)? because he's produced only a handful of projects since the early '70s, none of which approach his early chart reign.
― blame it on the HOOS got you steenin' loose (some dude), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:18 (seventeen years ago)
anti grammy terror ?!
― depressed (usic), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:23 (seventeen years ago)
Is Miccio da croupier? A light shines.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:25 (seventeen years ago)
Anyway obv none of these people is a good direct comparison for Brown (a lot were at the end of careers, some of their crimes were a lot less heinous, some were more heinous, and yeah some have left the country--big fucking whoop, most of them are hideously unattractive.) My only point was that it is well within the realm of reason to see Brown having a(nother) career at some point. Will he be completely unscathed? No. Still making money in the entertainment biz (don't forget guys he's a triple threat)? Maybe.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:34 (seventeen years ago)
singingdancing[tacky unfunny joke redacted]?
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:36 (seventeen years ago)
Wasn't he in Stomp? I guess he mostly danced in it.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:36 (seventeen years ago)
No wait it was Stomp The Yard! And This Christmas! Plus some work in the O.C.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:38 (seventeen years ago)
2006 Christmas in Washington TBA made for television (TNT)2007 Stomp the Yard Duron Small Role The O.C. Will Tutt 3 episodes This Christmas Michael 'Baby' Whitfield Main Role2008 The Suite Life of Zack and Cody Himself Guest Star2010 Takers Jessie Attica[53] Small Role
huh, did not knowxp: lol
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:38 (seventeen years ago)
oh wait, I remember "This Christmas" now, wasn't it basically "The Chris Brown Story, Only At Christmas"?
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:39 (seventeen years ago)
he's also responsible for such great lyrics as "we've only got one night to dance forever" and "you're in disturbia"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:39 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, he was the "band geek" (as in marching) in a couple episodes as Marissa's sister's love interest. I am ashamed.
― legendary North American forest ape (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:40 (seventeen years ago)
This Christmas is a 2007 christmas comedy-drama film produced by Rainforest Films and distributed by Screen Gems. Written, produced and directed by Preston A. Whitmore II, it is a Christmastime story that centers around the Whitfield family, whose eldest son has come home for the first time in four years. The film's title refers to the 1970 Donny Hathaway song of the same name, which is covered by Chris Brown in the film as well. The film received a PG-13 from the MPAA for comic sexual content and some violence and 12A by the British Board of Film Classification for moderate violence and sex references.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:40 (seventeen years ago)
I guess the third leg of the Triple Threat is debatable.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:42 (seventeen years ago)
as far as movies that you pick from on-demand when you're bored as fuck this christmas isn't that bad actually
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:42 (seventeen years ago)
there's this part at the end where the cast, at this point out of character, split into two lines forming a kind of runway and every person takes turns dancing down the runway, one of the more randomly heartwarming things i've ever experienced in a movie
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:44 (seventeen years ago)
Better than Prom Night?
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:44 (seventeen years ago)
hahah i will report back after i inevitably watch that this week - this christmas is way better than the invisible but not as good as P2
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:45 (seventeen years ago)
chris should reach out to tyler perry
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:45 (seventeen years ago)
After an attack leaves him in limbo -- invisible to the living and also near death -- a teenager discovers the only person who might be able help him is his attacker
basically this kid goes into a coma but he becomes a ghost so he can save himself
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:46 (seventeen years ago)
you should see more family comedies
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:47 (seventeen years ago)
okay lol, THAT'S the plot to "The Invisible"?
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:47 (seventeen years ago)
lol yes
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:48 (seventeen years ago)
just to clarify my oft c&pd 3am drunken post w/the indecipherable ending i could see chris brown hanging around having some minor hits and being partially rehabbed but his career as it was of #1 hits big endorsement deals prime slots at the vmas fawning media coverage etc is over.
the reasons why this story is different than a lot of past celebrity scandals and why brown will be rejected by a good percentage of fans and corporate interests are: it exactly contradicts his carefully crafted image which is the basis for a lot of his appeal, he beat the shit out of a v popular celebrity who a lot of people care abt and feel like they know personally, theres at least once photo of the suffering inflicted making the whole thing much more real than if it was just a story.
i could see if rihanna carries through w/the rumored public reconciliation it hurting her career too. people dont want to hav to think abt a fucked up outcome to a fucked up event from this music they just want a lil fun and positive emotion. jettisoning his ass and releasing a since u been gone would be the way to go from a career and life standpoint imo.
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 22:49 (seventeen years ago)
This Christmas is watchable almost solely because Lauren London and Sharon Leal are in it
― blame it on the HOOS got you steenin' loose (some dude), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 23:34 (seventeen years ago)
Maaan, FUCK Chris Brown and his career. Honestly, who cares? The better question is why isn't the Rihanna thread getting much attention? Why is the initial reaction to discuss Chris' career and not hers?
― tea cake, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 00:03 (seventeen years ago)
we hav another rihanna thread on the secret bord
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 00:31 (seventeen years ago)