her delivery and "famoush" lisp thing just kinda drives me up the wall
also Ned otm
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link
overall she seems to be an artist that's more fun to read about than listen to
Also all songs seem to discreetly recycle hooks from other people's songs.
― dronestreet, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 18:01 (nine years ago) link
based on one listen, this works much, much better as a mood piece than the first album did. obviously she's still ridiculous but the uptick in production and stronger unifying aesthetic make it possible for me to see how someone could like this.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link
The only thing I'm reading about her in local press is how she wishes the was dead: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/jun/12/lana-del-rey-ultraviolence-album
― StanM, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link
that's....nice
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link
I have to admit that I am shocked and surprised that there are five songs on the album that I actually like
I'm kind of furious that one of them is titled "Fucked My Way To The Top", though
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link
Boom! .5 Stars from DeRo!
― campreverb, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link
so are you guys marks or smarks??
http://blogs.citypages.com/gimmenoise/2014/06/lana_del_rey_fandom_is_exactly_the_same_as_pro_wrestling_fandom.php
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link
Much of the WWE roster seem like they could be cast as love interests in Del Rey music videos
uh
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link
love seeing that luke winkie aka hottest women in tech slideshow bro is somehow allowed to write about women
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link
man it's been a while since i hovered over the next page button of a voice media article, forgot what a dark moment it can be
― da croupier, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link
Xp You've never liked an artist who was limited but enjoyable? You call it settling. I call it getting pleasure out of a record while acknowledging its flaws. I like lots of artists who could benefit from better lyrics.
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link
Generally speaking, if I enjoy an artist, I don't think they are limited. For example, everything I've heard from John Lydon would point to him having a vocal range that spans a major fifth but the songs he is singing during the heyday of PiL would not work if sung another way. Limitations are, by definition, bad things; the trick is turning them into assets, and this is a trick that I think Lana Del Rey is particularly terrible at especially considering that there is a gigantic amount of potential in that voice.
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link
i'm a little lukewarm on the album, but "guns and roses" is really fantastic.
― Van Spleef & R. Kellz (get bent), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link
she should do some shag carpet faux twin peaks soundtrack version of "careering"
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
"Most of the world has given up on Lana Del Rey"
except the aforementioned Top 20 hits but okay
― katherine, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link
Forgot about reading so many reviews like that on my lunch hours in the years before there were good things to read on my phone.
― did click through tho on the money (Eazy), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link
otm
― you can't put your arms around a lamprey (brownie), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 00:02 (nine years ago) link
with a video starring Laura Dern
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 00:07 (nine years ago) link
even P!tchfork's changed its tune
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19449-lana-del-rey-ultraviolence/
― piscesx, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 01:41 (nine years ago) link
xp That's interesting DJP. I'm often aware of limitations in artists I enjoy, even ones, like New Order, that I love deeply. Admittedly LDR's are more glaring which is why I like rather than love her. There are so many gradations of enjoyment that I feel there's a lot of room for imperfections if the good outweighs the bad.
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 09:24 (nine years ago) link
Limitations are, by definition, bad things
no they aren't.
(this is not a comment about lana del ray, about whom zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 09:29 (nine years ago) link
(one thing i will say: she and/or her "team" are geniuses to get people talking about her for so long considering her utterly soporific music)
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 09:30 (nine years ago) link
Good write-up, 誤訳侮辱
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 10:39 (nine years ago) link
Liked Luke's write-up too. "We can appreciate her storytelling, her guile, her false ego, we can appreciate her gloppy, Technicolor atmosphere while knowing that she, like us, doesn't take all this too seriously." Yay for today.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 10:44 (nine years ago) link
i feel as though i've weathered a lana storm over the past couple years, going from "yeah this is pretty good" to "yeah this kind of okay" while the rest of the world completely lost its marbles. thing is, she is sometimes pretty good, and other times just okay.
― Pew Nornographers (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 11:06 (nine years ago) link
"marbles in a storm" is her next single IIRC
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:17 (nine years ago) link
Well, given what I've just read on FB, Ms Del Rey can be her own worst enemy.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 June 2014 23:17 (nine years ago) link
what where?
― akm, Thursday, 19 June 2014 23:18 (nine years ago) link
she covered Lit
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 19 June 2014 23:21 (nine years ago) link
Mistakes one journalist for another, accuses first journalist of asking "calculated leading" questions, sics fans on first journalist (again, wrong person), fans then dump on other journalist who objects, even though said third journalist has just reviewed the album incredibly positively, etc.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 June 2014 23:23 (nine years ago) link
And she covered Lit, so.
Re: her deathwish: this is still the fictional character speaking, right? Who could simply be killed off by not being used as a personage anymore?
― StanM, Thursday, 19 June 2014 23:24 (nine years ago) link
That's the question, isn't it? If she's doing interviews in character, like Laibach or Oderus Urungus?
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 19 June 2014 23:48 (nine years ago) link
when's her damn bond theme already
― da croupier, Thursday, 19 June 2014 23:50 (nine years ago) link
i mean all this bullshit is just building up to that, let's get to it before we're buried in thinkpieces
She'll only get a Bond theme if Bela Tarr is picked to direct the next one.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 19 June 2014 23:52 (nine years ago) link
dude she ain't diamanda galas she's had a dance remix in the top 10 and makes nancy sinatra homages with the guy from the black keys. If Jack White & Alicia Keys can collaborate on one, Lana will get hers, fascinating character work or no
― da croupier, Thursday, 19 June 2014 23:53 (nine years ago) link
It was a "slow boring music for a slow boring movie" joke. (N.B.: I like the new album a lot.)
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 19 June 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link
gotcha though let's not forget chris cornell wasn't too slow boring to get to do one
― da croupier, Thursday, 19 June 2014 23:56 (nine years ago) link
to be fair to everybody trying to figure out where the artist ends and her photo tumblr begins, i'll admit i don't personally know what contemporary act people should be scratching their chins over instead.
― da croupier, Friday, 20 June 2014 00:08 (nine years ago) link
i feel like "Skyfall" was the first Bond theme in forever that feels like it might actually stand the test of time
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 June 2014 00:29 (nine years ago) link
i like the madonna one (although that was ages ago)
― Van Spleef & R. Kellz (get bent), Friday, 20 June 2014 00:49 (nine years ago) link
i like lana and ultraviolence is growing on me, but i don't really have the energy to defend her, because i don't care that much and anyway her fans are seriously scary so i don't want to align myself with that.
― Van Spleef & R. Kellz (get bent), Friday, 20 June 2014 00:55 (nine years ago) link
rob delaney @robdelaney · Jun 17Game: Is it a Lana Del Rey song or a hot 22 year old yawning & farting at the same time?
― Josefa, Friday, 20 June 2014 02:18 (nine years ago) link
http://www.idolator.com/7523506/lana-del-rey-dead-quote-response
Reminds me a little of the Warpaint/Beyonce/Q magazine defense.
― how's life, Friday, 20 June 2014 08:59 (nine years ago) link
good on that post for not fact-checking her claim about who interviewed her.
― maura, Friday, 20 June 2014 12:56 (nine years ago) link
Fucking Idolator
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 20 June 2014 13:40 (nine years ago) link
Tim Jonze has responded.
http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/jun/20/lana-del-rey-problem-interview-but-why
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 June 2014 14:29 (nine years ago) link