Birthday Party - Classic or Dud

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his last solo record "teenage snuff film" is pretty darn good too. the oddest thing about it is that it thanks the NME journo that subsequently gave it a crap review in said organ.

― the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Thursday, 6 May 2004 11:44 (twenty-two years ago)

If he thanks him again in his next one he'll be my hero too

― Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 6 May 2004 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

it's the same guy who has points on the first Vines album

― the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Thursday, 6 May 2004 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)

How'd he get points? Is he just a writer? This thread has made me get "Junkyard" out for later, yay.

― Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 6 May 2004 11:49 (twenty-two years ago)

don't know, but he probably "helped" with "publicity" at a guess

― the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Thursday, 6 May 2004 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)

My list...

1. "Mutiny in Heaven"
2. "She's Hit"
3. "Nick the Stripper"
4. "Six Inch Gold Blade"
5. "Release the Bats"

6. "Blast Off"
7. "Deep in the Woods"
8. Their cover of the Stooges' "Loose" on The John Peel Sessions

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Just to add that Die Haut's Burning the Ice album from 1983 or so has been reissued -- Nick Cave sings on four of the songs. Not *really* Birthday Party but this was towards the end of BP's active existence so...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah, further thoughts of mine are here.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

and if you can hunt down the version of Dead Joe that Nick did on his solo Australian tour a few years back, GET IT. It's great. He just pummels the piano and screams that shit.

He did that on his solo American tour, too. I was really fucking amazed and happy to hear a Birthday Party song when I saw him in Chicago.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, CLASSSIC.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Classic, classic, classic. If they only ever did Mutiny in Heaven, they would still be classic. But there was so much more.

Rrrrats in paradissssse, rrrrrats in paradisssse!

― kaliflwr (kaliflwr), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

my first impression was BP live 81'-82 affair and motherfuck that was one of the most knockout amazing vicious recordings i have ever heard. past that i dig Cave live (one of the best, a legend) but not massive on his recent stuff...

my 2 pennorth'

― v1nnymiller, Thursday, 6 May 2004 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I think These Immortal Souls' "I'm Never Gonna Die Again" and Crime and the City Solution's... well, everything before "Paradise Discotheque" are pretty stunning records, if anyone knows what i mean.

― jazz odysseus (jazz odysseus), Thursday, 6 May 2004 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I really don't know if I could make a top 5, I love too many songs. I'm surprised "Deep In the Woods" is not rated more on this thread, though.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 6 May 2004 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, couldn't reduce this down to any list. Too much goodness to be had! Ah well, another group-I-could-never-have-seen.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Jazz Odysseus OTM. I'm Never Gonna Die Again is surprisingly great. But it came out, what, more than 10 years ago? Has Rowland released anything since?

― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Friday, 7 May 2004 06:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Xpost - John, I meant the song "Junkyard" in particular, especially the part where NC's yelling "honey-honey-honey," it's smashing. The whole album is great, of course.

When I was really obsessed with the Birthday Party I looked all over the place for Crime and the City Solution records (except the disappointing Paradise Discotheque) and couldn't find any - did anyone ever reissue them? maybe I should check on slsk.

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 7 May 2004 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Somehow I've ended up with four CatCS CDs over the years! And they're all pretty good in their own ways.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

On one of the last few drunken nights I was allowed before the stranglehold of fatherhood fastened its grip, I once was threatened with severe bodily harm after drunkenly grabbing a stranger by the lapels and barking a garbled snippet from "Mutiny in Heaven" (specifically "I TIED OFF...FUCKING WINGS BURST OUT MY BACK LIKE I WAS CUTTING TEETH...I TOOK OFF!!!!) on the corner of Prince and Elizabeth Streets. It had to be done.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Most bold, sir.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I believe the word you are looking for is "stupid"...or perhaps the hyphenated "ill-advised". But, y'know, I was conveniently with burly friends at the time, so I escaped unscathed.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I couldn't get started on work tonight (term papers) so I put on "Mutiny in Heaven" really, really loud in an attempt to wake myself up. Hooray. PUNISHMENT!! REWARD!! It still took me until halfway through Jesus Lizard's Liar to pack my books and leave the house.

― daria g (daria g), Saturday, 8 May 2004 06:19 (twenty-two years ago)

any love for the simon bonney alt country records?

― mullygrubber (gaz), Saturday, 8 May 2004 06:27 (twenty-two years ago)

wings off flies is a nice conceit.

― mullygrubber (gaz), Saturday, 8 May 2004 06:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Baaderoni: rowland has released one (very good) solo album since that last TIS album: "teenage snuff film". he plays shows on a multiple-weekly basis around melbourne but doesn't appear to do much in the way of recording..

― the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Saturday, 8 May 2004 06:48 (twenty-two years ago)

daria marry me ok?

― Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 8 May 2004 06:55 (twenty-two years ago)

any love for the simon bonney alt country records?

I like the two I've heard.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 8 May 2004 13:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the first one, and there are some lovely songs on the second ("Everyman") like "Don't Walk Away From Love" and the version of "Blue Eyes Crying In the Rain", but it bothers me that he'll use the same chord progression for most of the songs (it's the one Neil Young uses in "Helpless") and I'm surprised someone (producer, maybe) didn't insist that it be varied a bit.

― jazz odysseus (jazz odysseus), Saturday, 8 May 2004 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)

there has clearly not been enough love for KING INK on this thread. that guitar riff is brutal, setting the template for like.. ever Jesus Lizard song ever. and nick just goes out of his mind screaming gibberish. love it.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Sunday, 9 May 2004 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

The band is very hit-or-miss, so I don't know that I'd call them classic. But Release The Bats is fantastic.

― Atnevon (Atnevon), Sunday, 9 May 2004 13:19 (twenty-two years ago)

What a band.

I pulled out Prayers On Fire for the first time in a while cuz of this thread.

Insanely great.

― Broheems (diamond), Monday, 10 May 2004 03:04 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

God, I love this band. I've got Live 81-82 turned way the hell up and I'm wearing my Hee-Haw shirt. I feel like I could seduce someone or kill them just by training my eyes on them.

― Ian Riese-Moraine's all but an ark-lark! (Eastern Mantra), Friday, 3 June 2005 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

The DVD reissue of the Factory Video 'Sometimes Pleasure Heads Must Burn' has some tasty extras, including the band going berserk on the cheesy set of some Oz lite-entertainment program around Junkyard-time. Tracey bending over backwards and ending up with his head in the bass drum. Insane.

― Soukesian, Friday, 3 June 2005 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex, did he do something to you first?!

― Sundar (sundar), Friday, 3 June 2005 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

including the band going berserk on the cheesy set of some Oz lite-entertainment program around Junkyard-time. Tracey bending over backwards and ending up with his head in the bass drum. Insane.
I think some Nick Cave/BP site had a clip of that up! Inspiring shit. I need that DVD. And the Peel Sessions. Otherwise I have everything else.

― Ian Riese-Moraine's all but an ark-lark! (Eastern Mantra), Friday, 3 June 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex, did he do something to you first?!

Nope. Well, he was busy being a hepcat.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 3 June 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Reason enough. A fine last hurrah for Alex, methinks.

I'm here to confess my love for 'Nick the Stripper' and 'Deep In The Woods', and the Birthday Party in general. Can I also say how much I love the 'Nick the Stripper' video? Fucked-up Nick truly is his best incarnation. It's the hair, I think. Oh and the dead stare...

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 4 June 2005 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Has the Cash cover of "Mutiny In Heaven" ever surfaced or is it just an urban legend?

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 4 June 2005 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Can someone do a kind of objective CD80 list (including Nick Cave solo)? (like a best singles). My knowledge of The Birthday Party is sorely lacking, especially for someone with The Jesus and Mary Chain and My Bloody Valentine in my top 3 groups.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 4 June 2005 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I might have said this before, but the Birthday Party's Mutiny In Heaven is as classic as they get.

― Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 4 June 2005 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

including Nick Cave solo

Sorry, impossible to fit this *and* BP stuff in one CD80. There's just too much goodness!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 June 2005 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

As someone who likes the BP but never really got into Nick Cave, I could be asked to do the task.. but i think there already is a decent enough collection released out there, Spencer, that makes a great intro disc. I forget the name though. :/

― donut debonair (donut), Saturday, 4 June 2005 05:07 (twenty-one years ago)

It's called Hits, simply enough. And yep, it's quite good.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 June 2005 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)

everything by The Birthday Party + the first four Nick Cave albums (From Her To Eternity, The Firstborn Is Dead, Kicking Against The Pricks & Your Funeral, My Trial!) = classic.

Oh, and It's Still Living >>> Live 81-82, if only because of that Funhouse cover I just don't get. (I have the Stooges' Funhouse Sessions box, so it's not that I don't like the song, I'm just not into that particular cover version) And the Dead Joe arrangement on It's Still Living = one of my fav things ever.

― StanM, Saturday, 4 June 2005 09:27 (twenty-one years ago)

HANDS UP WHO WANTS TO DIE??!!

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 4 June 2005 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

also release the bats is the best record ever made

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 4 June 2005 09:51 (twenty-one years ago)

OH LUCY, YOU'VE MADE A SINNAH OUTTA ME, WAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! AND NOW I'M BURNIN' LIKE AH SAINT, DOWN IN -- SWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMP laaand!

― The plastic yoghurt guns of Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 4 June 2005 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

HANDS UP WHO WANTS TO DIE??!!

One of his two best song intros (the other being the unintentional one at the start of Therapy?'s Troublegum album -- "HERE I AM, MOTHERFUCKAH!")

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 June 2005 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

when Cave screamed "Hands up who wants to die?" at Perkins Palace on the first Bad Seeds tour, maybe second or third song of the set, the whole place just went electric - everybody'd been wondering if he was going to do any BP stuff and he tore that thing to pieces

― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Saturday, 4 June 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

rowland has released a new 7" backed by the deveastations recently. unfortunately neither of the songs (i gather) are new - just new versions of songs on his seven-odd year old last album..

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Sunday, 5 June 2005 07:01 (twenty-one years ago)

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Maybe Nick Cave was inside Sidney in Sydney

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