And I was, like, kickass interesting rhythm or not, that's fuckin' bullshit.
That's about it.
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 14:52 (twenty years ago) link
Laughable.
― russ t, Wednesday, 2 July 2003 15:07 (twenty years ago) link
Damn it!
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 15:27 (twenty years ago) link
― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 16:03 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 16:30 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 16:33 (twenty years ago) link
Perhaps part of the irritation with dancehall is that (unlike, say, pop-punka stuff) is that, aside from some astonishingly awful views on social issues, it could be so good -- both musically and sociopolitically.
― Ess, Wednesday, 2 July 2003 16:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 16:55 (twenty years ago) link
I'm assuming you mean "Who's to say pop-punka stuff hasn't been that good?" No one's to say that in any objective way. It has been really good. But on a personal level, it doesn't give me chills the way good dancehall does. And its more retrograde (jesus, there's an irritating word) tendencies don't bother me as much for that reason -- I don't care about it the same way I do about dancehall.
― Ess (Ess), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 17:06 (twenty years ago) link
when i used to listen to john peel he always used to play the odd dancehall track and he had the same problem so he always would listen out for gay basing stuff and he would only play the 'clean' stuff.
I think its all within the context of the song, you know (but maybe its just that i do have this thing where i don't know abt a lot of the terminology here and i'm poor at picking up on lyrics). I have enjoyed lots of what i've heard on the radio, the rhythms are quite something.
so what makes this diff from, say, gangsta rap. do ppl listen to one and not the other?
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 17:11 (twenty years ago) link
― russ t, Thursday, 3 July 2003 08:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 3 July 2003 10:10 (twenty years ago) link
― dave q, Thursday, 3 July 2003 10:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 3 July 2003 10:25 (twenty years ago) link
Chorus: From dem a par inna chi chi man car Blaze di fire mek we bun dem!!!! (Bun dem!!!!) From dem a drink inna chi chi man bar Blaze di fire mek we dun dem!!!! (Dun dem!!!!)
Verse 1: Craigy: So mi go so, do yuh see weh I see??? Niggas when your doin that Nuff a dem a freak dem a carry all dem dutty act Thug nigga wanna bees nuff a dem a lick it back It dem bring it to we, hold on nuff a cop a shot Cop a shot rise up every calico go rat tat tat Rat tat tat every chi chi man dem haffi get flat Get flat, mi and my niggas ago mek a pack Chi chi man fi dead and dat's a fact
Verse 2: Flexx: So mi go so la la la la la la la la la la la Nah go mek nuh chi chi man walk right a so >From a bwoy a deep we ago dun dem right now Leff him whole family dem a blow wow
Alexx: I see it from far mi and dem nah go par A nuff a dem bwoy mi a smoke man cigar Mi and dem coulda never inna wrong bar Dem bwoy deh flex too bizarre
Chorus: >From dem a par inna chi chi man car Blaze di fire mek we bun dem!!!! (Bun dem!!!!) >From dem a drink inna chi chi man bar Blaze di fire mek we dun dem!!!! (Dun dem!!!!)
Repeat intro twice Repeat Verse 1 till song end
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 3 July 2003 10:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 3 July 2003 10:33 (twenty years ago) link
― dave q, Thursday, 3 July 2003 10:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Thursday, 3 July 2003 10:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 3 July 2003 10:38 (twenty years ago) link
Best word evah!
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 3 July 2003 10:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 3 July 2003 10:45 (twenty years ago) link
this is an interesting topic,i'd love to see more discussion on this,although i'm not sure what i think myself
i don't see a huge difference between this and some of the more misogynist elements of rap- (wildflower by ghostface killah)
― robin (robin), Thursday, 3 July 2003 10:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 3 July 2003 10:59 (twenty years ago) link
― russ t, Thursday, 3 July 2003 11:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 3 July 2003 11:14 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 3 July 2003 11:19 (twenty years ago) link
― dave q, Thursday, 3 July 2003 11:20 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 3 July 2003 11:25 (twenty years ago) link
― dave q, Thursday, 3 July 2003 11:28 (twenty years ago) link
― dave q, Thursday, 3 July 2003 11:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 3 July 2003 11:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 3 July 2003 11:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 3 July 2003 11:38 (twenty years ago) link
― dave q, Thursday, 3 July 2003 11:43 (twenty years ago) link
― russ t, Thursday, 3 July 2003 11:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 3 July 2003 11:53 (twenty years ago) link
― russ t, Thursday, 3 July 2003 12:19 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 3 July 2003 12:27 (twenty years ago) link
― dave q, Thursday, 3 July 2003 12:28 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 3 July 2003 12:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 3 July 2003 12:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 3 July 2003 12:38 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 3 July 2003 12:39 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 3 July 2003 12:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 3 July 2003 12:46 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 3 July 2003 12:47 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 3 July 2003 12:51 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 3 July 2003 12:52 (twenty years ago) link
Last year I got very excited by a track I found by Beenie Man called "That right" whiich seemed to say "When we say bun chi chi man, everybody say that's right ... but when we bun chi chi man that no right"
Which seems to be either criticising the whole chi-chi man bunning thing, or at least asking the audience to make a distinction between art and life. But I may be optimistically misunderstanding the lyrics. Can anyone (Dave Stelfox ... do you know this?) help me out here. Is this some reflection within the dancehall community, trying to placate foreign critics or just a misunderstanding of something truly horrendous.
― phil jones (interstar), Thursday, 3 July 2003 12:52 (twenty years ago) link
I like her description of homophobia as a "heavy burden".
― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Friday, 6 July 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link