I arranged their first live show, they are really nice 15 year oldsyou can get their 7" from www.benno.com or maybe www.normanrecords.comor maybe www.roughtrade.com
You´ll like it if you like the likes of Fat tulips, Talulah gosh, Twa toots...
― Jens (brighter), Sunday, 23 February 2003 11:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
(Plus i know one of their members so I'm loath to do my usual sight-unseen slagging)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 23 February 2003 22:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
I am curious about the Baskervilles.
It has been a quiet start of 2004 for indiepop.
― marianna, Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:45 (twenty years ago) link
― LondonLee (LondonLee), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:14 (twenty years ago) link
The Architecture in Helsinki album is coming out in Europe and USA in April. It's really nice.
― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:51 (twenty years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago) link
― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:59 (twenty years ago) link
― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 19:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Dare, Wednesday, 24 March 2004 19:16 (twenty years ago) link
the magic whispers cd is great, kinda like a modern update of hunky dory but with two girls singing. the pipas ep is fantastic. new brunettes album is out soon.
― keith m (keithmcl), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago) link
And Orlando is hot, even though they are only a pretend indie band.
― Luke Broster, Thursday, 25 March 2004 06:24 (twenty years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 25 March 2004 07:45 (twenty years ago) link
i've heard the lp, courtesy of melbournian friend, and is one of my favourites of last year. and they made it into peel's festive fifty with that song about the owl (or something). remind me a lot of bearsuit and hyper kinako if that helps, like the indiepop version of melt banana - little bitty pop songs.
oh, here we go, festive fifty 2003: (http://infoman16.tripod.com/festive50/festiv03.htm)
5- Bearsuit - Itsuko got married (A-side of limited edition single)29- Architecture In Helsinki - The owls go (from Fingers Crossed)44- Hyper-Kinako - Tokyo Invention Registration Office (B-side of Car And Kettle) (Demo)
andy
― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 25 March 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 25 March 2004 22:23 (twenty years ago) link
― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 25 March 2004 23:27 (twenty years ago) link
He was invited to write for the fourth album too, but he neglected to get anything put together. I think the two of them are on a similar wavelength, though, so it shouldn't affect the style much. Besides, it isn't as of non-Bid material has never been featured on a Scarlet's Well album. If Dickon even writes anything, that is.
But at the same time, I can see what you mean. The subject matter is so outlandish that it'd be easy for it to fall into self-parody without some careful rules set into place.
― Luke Broster, Friday, 26 March 2004 01:19 (twenty years ago) link
Comes out the middle of the next month, but you can get it early from their website now.
― Ryan WS (fffv), Friday, 26 March 2004 01:46 (twenty years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 26 March 2004 01:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Ben Dot (1977), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 21:40 (twenty years ago) link
― youn, Thursday, 19 May 2005 02:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 19 May 2005 02:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 19 May 2005 02:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― youn, Thursday, 19 May 2005 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 19 May 2005 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― keith m (keithmcl), Thursday, 19 May 2005 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― mikef-who-mostly-lurks (mfleming), Thursday, 19 May 2005 04:49 (nineteen years ago) link
Is that about a certain ringtone on a phone?
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 19 May 2005 07:38 (nineteen years ago) link
I think The Pipettes should do a song called Wing'd Defenestration (Song For Sweety The Chick).
(Do you know, I've never heard the Pipettes, I would have done but I went to see Vichy instead along with a TRAMP and a drunk - oh that drunk was me looking in the mirror, oh well).
― Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Thursday, 19 May 2005 08:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Thursday, 19 May 2005 08:18 (nineteen years ago) link
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― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 19 May 2005 08:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Thursday, 19 May 2005 08:28 (nineteen years ago) link
The complementary ILM thread: "99% of indiepop is crap" is where most of the deep thinking that maybe was where Nitsuh's essay developed from, but its tone is a little cantankerous, so I thought I'd bring this one back first.
Anyway, thank god for filesharing networks or else the recommendation to check out Blueboys 'If Wishes Were Horses" would have driven the ebay prices way out of my budget.
― marianna (mariannapm), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― vacuum cleaner (electricsound), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link
(that said, im fairly certain im the guy he's singing about. or at least i was two years ago, im better now. hopefully.)
― JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link
btw you should have put a My Favorite song on the mix tape!
― Lovelace (Lovelace), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GM65ZGED
emma's house
― Lovelace (Lovelace), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― keyth (keyth), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 01:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― login name (fandango), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link
And yet I object to using the term "indie pop" to describe what is essentially a quite narrow category of music that might more aptly be called "twee pop." As much as the terms "indie pop" and "indie rock" often overlap, I still have a sense of what "indie pop" means when it's used: in a contemporary context, it's bands like Belle & Sebastian, Stars, Of Montreal, etc. It's not Interpol, Xiu Xiu, or the Hold Steady.
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link
What we actually mean when we use these terms ... that's something I could have written several other pages on. Hopefully some of my thinking about that made it through onto the page: the way that the indiepop model was just what "indie" meant for much of the 80s; the way bands like the Swirlies or Versus or Unrest could kind of float between those notions in the 90s; the way ideas from indie's pop side, punk-rock side, and ambitious-professional side have split off from one another at various points and then basically rejoined to create the mainstream-indie we still have today.
I don't know whether it's a good or a bad thing for people to make big distinctions about this stuff. I like the fact that loads of people can enjoy something like the All-Girl Summer Fun Band without thinking of it as a genre exercise or part of a specific history. But it also seems like the pop part of indie is getting blurred out of people's official histories and grand narratives, and in the process I think a lot of context is getting lost, context that's useful for getting at a lot of bands and a lot of ideas. More importantly, I really do think there are certain listening mindsets, certain tricks and ways of understanding things, that make indiepop so lovable to its fans, and that a lot of the scene can be accessed as a genre -- i.e., turning on to a way of thinking/hearing that makes big chunks of the stuff make sense.
Pete: sweet, Wolfie and Rocketship albums are two of my favorite recommendations on there. And Wolfie relates strongly to that last sentence: I, and some other people I know, hear total wonderfulness in this band; people who don't go for it seem to just hear a regular, lousy band. This is unusual: they don't think it's super-godawful, or fakey, or too-weird (as people often will with bands you think sound "special"), but rather just cruddy, plain, and irritating, unremarkable. There's some kind of "trick" there, surely, some way-of-hearing thing? (And with that first Wolfie the best I can figure is that people think they're trying to be cute, whereas actually they're kinda trying to be AC/DC -- they're all adorable on their own!)
The Feelings were pretty alright: I was just listening to Dearling Darling the other day!
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link
1. Politics: the UK in the 80s was a political place and indie was particularly so. It was an uncomfortable politics and not an especially active one, but everyone I knew felt they were politically engaged, and if there were right-wingers they certainly kept quiet about it. Certainly some thought of Rock and Thatcher as linked, things to be opposed. 86-87 was also a time of a sense of hopelessness for the left, the miners long defeated and Thatcher's apparently unstoppable charge to the 87 election landslide. The loser pose makes a certain amount of sense in that context. (I think Reynolds has something interesting to say about this stuff in "Against Health And Efficiency" but it's been a long time).
For some of us who took some time away from indie in the 90s, coming back to find that sound (and to some extent, the look) had become the noise of choice for a constituency of intelligent, wealthy American right wing College types was a real shock.
2. Punk Rock. The UK indie scene in the mid-1980s was obsessed with punk. Many people saw themselves as the true standard-bearers of the spirit of Punk, claiming a lineage which went Vic-Dan-Edwyn-and-so-on. You heard tales of Primal Scream in '85 going round after their jangliest shows asking People Who Knew "was that Punk Rock"? It was crucially important and we all made sure we hated hippies, even though we barely saw hippies ever. We'd have to make up hippies to hate (in one of the "Communication Blur"s, The Legend! and Alan McGee famously laid into the El records lot as 'short haired hippies').
Hm I could say more about this but I should leave it for now.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:06 (eighteen years ago) link
The "right wing" is a little out of place there; indie is the American noise of choice for a group that trends left, in a kind of rote post-collegiate way. That's true of the Friendster set, anyway; as you move younger into new-convert fans of big mainstreamed indie bands (Strokes, Modest Mouse, Franz Ferdinand, Death Cab) I think you might find something more politically neutral.
― ponypoop (ponypoop), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link
pinefox I'm sorry to have passed over your post above!
You're probably right. I remember 2004-06 the trend in indie circles was bombast and post-rock/emo melodrama with elaborate post-twee instrumentation. Classic indie-pop was all about the ingredients of punk with a pop approach, so it would make sense that this would come back when there was a need for the pendulum to swing back in the other direction. But the 80s revival was certainly extremely popular too so yeah that focus got mixed in.
― Evan, Friday, 24 March 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link