TS: Thom Yorke vs. Chris Martin

Talk takes its chords directly from the synthbass on the original...

I lioke what Radiohead attempt to be even if I haven't liked their actual music from Amnesiac onwards... (too half arsed, not weird enough, not angry enough) and their fans are cunts, tis true, actually walked outof the last one of their gigs i went to cos the fans were pissing me off too much...

Coldplay are extremely conventional, on their last album Martin is frequently flat especially on his falsetto, and their lyrics are bilge to an incredible, risible degree. Guitarwise they exist entirely within a U2 / Bunnymen matrix. Dull dull dull, achingly, bedwettingly, prematurely ejaculatingly, flacidly dull. I know rubbishing them is almost as dull, but just cos they're an easy target doesn't mean they're not a perfectly valid one.

(Um, not that there isn't definitely a cunt contingent.)

A verse or a chorus may build on a 4 chord loop, but if the rest of the song does not (like the bridge, for instance, most of their songs have a somewhat contrasting bridge, which is also a sign that they know something about classic quality songwriting) build on the same 4 chords, then the entire song isn't based on a 4 chord loop even if part of it is.

Interestingly, though, the most harmonically repetitive Coldplay songs often tend to be rhythmically "interesting", which is why a lot of ILM'ers not very into Coldplay may pick exactly those songs as their favourite ("Clocks", for instance, which IMO is among their weakest and most repetitive songs)

ah, mr. snrub. you appear with the tedious inevitability of an unloved season.

Okay, so I never thought I'd see a Moonraker quote on here...

i am clearly lurking on alternate-universe ILM today.

You belong with me
Not swallowed in the sea
Yeah, you belong with me
Not swallowed in the sea

Mmmyes, well, I'm touched.

I don't listen to lyrics much, so I had no idea they were *that* bad. Jesus.

I am aware of this, but that doesn't mean it's a valid reason to dislike something. Just ignore it. Reminds me of high school and kids who "just think ugliness is like, really beautiful in a way, you know?"

Especially since they broke up and released their last album five years ago.

Ah, there's the rub. They are harmless, since U2 IS THE MOST POWERFUL BAND IN THE WORLD AND WILL NEVER BE STOPPED OR REPLACED AS THE SOUNDTRACK TO NEO-LIBERAL KAPITAL!!!!!! You don't need a bench if your starters are invincible AND immortal.

(the latter, obviously, being coldplay)

xpost to myself. Him.

And Fran Healy beats him. Thom Yorke was better around 1997 though.

I mean I'm not keen on Yorke, but that still expresses only 2% of the absolute sheer nastiness horror that is this video.

"So you like to buy your clothes from third-world child labor shops. Do you think the Chinese or the Japanese are better?"

Thom Yorke is a musical genius who treats music as an art form. Radiohead are more talented, more intelligent, more political, more introspective and deserve to be called artists. Chris Martin is not an artist. He's a corporate tool who writes repetitive, bland, shallow and emo lyrics and sounds like he's being emasculated when he sings. How can you say he's genuine when he writes lyrics like "for you i bleed myself dry?" i mean come on people. Coldplay are no better than Simple Plan. Chris Martin may say all the right things- "war is bad"; get the fuck up and do something about it! Radiohead do. But this man is a total airhead and he's completely controlled by other people. Coldplay readily admit that they model themselves after Radiohead and steal their ideas. Without Radiohead there would be no Coldplay; just listen to The Bends and OK Computer. Chris Martin publicly admires Thom Yorke and Yorke has said he thinks Martin sucks and wants nothing to do with his band. Surprised?

Don't get me wrong, everyone should listen to whatever music they want and create whatever music they want but we're talking about who the better artist is, not who has the more clever marketing techniques or who was born with the prettier face. There's no room for argument here. No one is comparing Limp Bizkit to The Beatles, right?

I wrote about this at length on my blog if you want to read it:
http://utopiandrive.blogspot.com/2006/04/radiohead-vs-coldplay.html

I haven't read anything on ILM so bold since first coming upon Geir's posts.

Radiohead are (arguably) only beginning to show signs of their creative powers dimming a bit on their sixth.

Shouldn't this thread really be Coldplay vs. Travis anyways?

You're so less-than-one-hour ago.

That is exactly what is great about Coldplay. Those of us who love them get more of what we love each time around.

Just that they started off nice boys & I expected them to simply get more "mature" & ignorable, rather than actively irritating.

Still a poor choice of words though.

Now do you have anything productive at all to say or not ?