― Matt C., Thursday, 22 August 2002 19:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 August 2002 19:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
hip-hop people reviewing bionix all saidit sucked. indie rock type people reviewingit said it was another classic from dela soul. those are the only people whoreviewed it.
― DK, Thursday, 22 August 2002 19:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
is STILL a really nice listen. if you take that song for face value away from the rest of the album, shows a real weird foreshadow of things Mo Wax/Beastie/Beck (mostly things I never cared too much for), but that weird international downtempo weird sample... it seemed to preface all that Cibo Matto/Stereolab/Stereototal (slow) modern rock-hop.
Not too big on De La Soul though; however, check this song out again if you haven't recently.
― gygax!, Thursday, 22 August 2002 19:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Thursday, 22 August 2002 21:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 22 August 2002 21:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nate Patrin, Friday, 23 August 2002 01:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― B:Rad, Friday, 23 August 2002 02:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 23 August 2002 08:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― matt riedl (veal), Friday, 23 August 2002 14:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 23 August 2002 14:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
I played "Tryin'" before my brother's wedding a couple months ago, just to calm my nerves on a stressful day, and I damn near started to weep. The song is about being ready for the rest of your life, by guys obviously not ready for the rest of their lives.
All the records are great, but De La is greater than ever.
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 23 August 2002 19:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 August 2002 19:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 August 2002 19:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― blueski, Friday, 23 August 2002 19:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 23 August 2002 20:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 24 August 2002 21:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 August 2002 22:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 24 August 2002 22:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Josh (Josh), Saturday, 24 August 2002 23:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 25 August 2002 12:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
The Twin Cities hereby cast all their votes for "classic."
― Keith Harris (kharris1128), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'd swear there's a thread around here about mature hip-hop that I might have even started but I can't find it.
― Josh (Josh), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Keith Harris (kharris1128), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
notions, soothed the mood
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link
the first album kicks the 2nd's ass 8 ways to tuesday
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link
"'De La Soul is Dead' is a better album than '3 Feet High...'" is the worst CHALLENGING OPINION in music criti
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link
three feet high and rising was the first hip-hop album i ever bought. buhloone mind state was the second. it would be cool to say bionix was the last one. but it wasn't. it was good, though. the slick rick one. 'held down.' 'bionix.' those other ones.
hip-hop people reviewing bionix all said it sucked. indie rock type people reviewing it said it was another classic from de la soul. those are the only people who reviewed it.
-- DK, Thursday, August 22, 2002 3:46 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Link
o.O
― and what, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link
i had a thing for making paper since papier-mache
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link
dude you were the one that told me 3 Ft High was dylan's first rap album
― Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link
I heard De La Soul Is Dead in its entirety before I heard Three Feet High and Rising in its entirety, which is part of the reason why I hold this allegedly controversial CHALLENGING OPINION.
― HI DERE, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link
its totally not a challenging opinion wtf people - but buhloone mind state is better than both of them anyway
i say this as someone who has listed to those three albums more than anyone on this board im sure
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link
production on Buhloone is less unique than on 1st 2. They're all great. 2nd>>>1st>>>3rd.
― Granny Dainger, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link
buhloone mind state remains my pick too
― PappaWheelie V, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 18:29 (sixteen years ago) link
3>2>1
but theyre all great obv
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link
1st > 3rd > 2nd
this is what I assume of anyone who holds same
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link
lol no i had 3 feet around when it cam out it kinda marked my devolution from someone who just listened to the radio and had a few albums to a music obsessive. i remember seeing the video for me myself and i on bet at a friends house and being all wtf is this must have! then dead was the last tape i had before i got a cd player. i taped ringringring off the radio before the album came out and was all wtf at the new sound but it grew on me fast. then when buhloon came out it was just <3<3<3
3 feet is nice but they got sooo much better at everything
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 18:55 (sixteen years ago) link
I pretty much agree with this.
― HI DERE, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link
so do I. 1st and 2nd are both more "fun" (having guru guest on a track will do that, though har har). 3rd I guess a lil TOO good ie refined.
― Granny Dainger, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:03 (sixteen years ago) link
(tho i guess having biz guest cancels out guru)
― Granny Dainger, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link
omglol i am watching de la videos on youtube omg!
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link
http://static1.videosift.com/thumbs/d/el/De_La_Soul_Me_Myself_And_I.jpg
this hair whaaaa!
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link
2>4>1=3
― jaxon, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link
For a long time I wrote off the AOI Bionix lps, but on repeat listen I think they are tight. I saw them perform at DEMF in 01 and they were great.
― U-Haul, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link
they got better at smooth jazz soul jams. but the 1st album is alive in a way those that follow are not and it's got the best wordplay by far. also, i like hippies and the color yellow.
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Buhloone Mind State is better than the first two. It's like desert island material.
― Euler, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link
arsenio dissed us but the crowed kept clapping http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR-p_yMTFDY
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Wrote something a couple of years ago on Buhloone, although they never even came close to recording boilerplate material.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link
it's got the best wordplay by far
gabz its fine if you like that one best but this is just demonstrably false - buhloon is 100% double entendres metaphors and allusions
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link
i like the kiddie metaphors more than the adult metaphors, but there's a fair amount of adult stuff on the 1st one too
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link
ahh it was buhloone not dead that had the animal noises on it. one of those things i had only ever heard about, not actually heard.
also i think it's important to remember the format and media of the time: no internet, 900 numbers, jerky boys hadn't even come around yet, and most people didn't even have cable at that point. even with music there was an expectation of one-liners, "outrageous" and "wacky" situations... cheap entertainment basically! my point in bringing this up is: in 1991 it was still very much acceptable to thematically create an album the same way you would a movie. they certainly weren't the first music act to do it, but there is a sense of sarcasm and embellishment (especially on the second album) that is 100% theirs. it's one of the reasons i revere that album so much: it's like hiphop vaudeville.
― ''can be prusuaded to show gayness'' (Austin), Saturday, 11 March 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link
I revere it, don't always wanna hear it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 11 March 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link
That's it! Thanks Josh, I was wondering why I couldn't find anything on that, but I was searching for the wrong album.
Haven't heard it myself either.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 11 March 2023 22:44 (one year ago) link
I wonder if Greg Kott didn’t get it:
‘While renouncing the conventional topics of hard-core hip-hop (guns, ho's, inner-city pathology masquerading as manhood), it flirts with cultural and musical criticism on such cuts as "Ego Trippin' (Part Two)" and "I Am I Be." The braying of a donkey and the mantra "It might blow up but it won't go pop" also provide an oblique, running commentary on the hip-hop nation.’
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Saturday, 11 March 2023 22:48 (one year ago) link
Looks like he got one.
― Mark G, Sunday, 12 March 2023 10:09 (one year ago) link
this is a cool find - Shortie No Mass from Buhloone Mindstate finally released her first solo album in 2021, it's a nice old school NT vibe, love that this isn't much different than a debut album from her would have been in 1993
https://shortienomass.bandcamp.com/album/here-goes-nothing
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 March 2023 14:02 (one year ago) link
she also put up a single from those days, produced by rockwilder and da beatminerz, i think this was all that ever came out then
article:https://daily.bandcamp.com/features/shortie-no-mass-here-goes-nothing-interview
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 March 2023 14:05 (one year ago) link
thanks!
here's the old single: https://vindig.bandcamp.com/album/like-this-u-like-my-style
― na (NA), Monday, 13 March 2023 14:10 (one year ago) link
yeah i posted on random old rap about shortie's album some time ago — it's really good and the first voice you hear is phife!
― ''can be prusuaded to show gayness'' (Austin), Monday, 13 March 2023 14:51 (one year ago) link
Yo and we won't stop rocking til we retireBut since the economy is such in them dire straitsThat isn't an option
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 01:23 (one year ago) link
The big rediscovery for me from all of this has been Buhloone Mindstate, which I liked at the time but it was never a big part of my listening the way the first two were — they were very much a college band for me, the first two albums came out while I was in school, so by the time of the third one I was off listening to a bunch of other stuff, De La Soul weren't "the future" anymore. BUT. Wow that's a great album. Maybe their best! I was surprised by how much of it I remembered even knowing that I'd never listened to it much. So anyway, I know I'm 30 years late on that, but it has been a real pleasure to dig back into.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 01:37 (one year ago) link
It's the best kind of "mature" record - full of complexity and emotional depth, while the shift from dayglo sampledelia to more muted jazz shades (not to mention Maceo Parker's interludes) complements the shift in text. Complicated, not hard.
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 08:50 (one year ago) link
The best kind of mature album in that it also revels in play.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 09:17 (one year ago) link
Yes, definitely.
Anyway... Vibe. Vibration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ6JXCaOttw
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 09:24 (one year ago) link
god what a great performance. wouldn't be surprised if pos and ma$e go on tour with a ringer (like, say, the mighty mos def)
― deadmauZedong (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 15:11 (one year ago) link
Yaasin would be great, just make sure he has his passport
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link
Just relistening to Is Dead this afternoon, loving the line of "curiosity killed the cat" in My Brother Is A Basehead, given Ring Ring Ring is based around a hook from a Curiosity Killed The Cat track.
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link
OMG. That Fallon clip!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 24 March 2023 07:18 (one year ago) link
lovely verse about Dave by Pos on the new Statik Selectah albumhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZdG1BhF6Mg
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:22 (eleven months ago) link
love this :(
― ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Monday, 12 June 2023 15:57 (eleven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwLr-8YWhMs
― Tommy Gets His Consoles Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 August 2023 19:30 (nine months ago) link
Ha, sorry. Meant to post:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8mfaAodcXU
― Tommy Gets His Consoles Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 August 2023 19:31 (nine months ago) link
On tour opening for Nas/Wu, with Kweli on second mic. Listened to one set on youtube and iirc they did three De La songs, two Kweli, the Pos verse of Rock.Co.Kane twice, and then Pharoahe Monch came out and did Simon Says, fin.
― vashti funyuns (sic), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 18:24 (seven months ago) link
Who is the "we" - is Mase involved? It was just Pos (plus Dres, Yaasin Bey and Prince Paul) when they played London in spring.
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 20:09 (seven months ago) link
Sorry, I mean who is the "they"?
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 20:15 (seven months ago) link
Mase, Pos and Kweli.
― vashti funyuns (sic), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 20:38 (seven months ago) link
30th anniversary edition of buhloone has hit spotify. it's added some bonus tracks from the clear lake audiotorium ep and the infamous "can't beat my mindstate" outtake.
phife, dave, and biz trading verses on "sh.fe.mcs" ———————————— the biggest sigh. never ending respect.
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Sunday, 3 December 2023 21:50 (six months ago) link
always loved this song it's mentioned once in this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKQmZBB-Sns
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 1 March 2024 21:49 (three months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJrUceBbVxY
― birdistheword, Friday, 8 March 2024 09:00 (two months ago) link
That is awesome!
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Friday, 8 March 2024 10:26 (two months ago) link
Wait this is SO good. God i love this album so much. Drove 3 hours to see them in 1996. Was so worth it.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 8 March 2024 10:34 (two months ago) link
Got a bit choked when Pos did the Plug Two verse
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Friday, 8 March 2024 10:35 (two months ago) link
Yes :(
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 8 March 2024 10:37 (two months ago) link
Glad Paul is with them. He was great at the Royal Albert Hall show last year. They should tour with Q-Tip as some DAISY Age survivors posse. That would be AWESOME.
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Friday, 8 March 2024 10:43 (two months ago) link
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Friday, March 8, 2024 4:35 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
yea wasn't expecting it but that got me too
― frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2024 14:27 (two months ago) link
Impressed by the generous Donald Fagen shoutout after Steely Dan sued them into oblivion
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 8 March 2024 14:38 (two months ago) link
just confirms what i always suspected about De La Soul: they are very nice dudes
― frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2024 14:39 (two months ago) link
absolutely
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 8 March 2024 14:40 (two months ago) link
Steely Dan did not sue De La Soul
― Pierre Delecto, Friday, 8 March 2024 14:46 (two months ago) link
That was the Turtles.
― Chris L, Friday, 8 March 2024 15:13 (two months ago) link
can anyone think of any tunes similar to "Eye Know"? its got such an amazing vibe to it
― frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2024 15:31 (two months ago) link
steely dan sued lord tariq and peter gunz
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 8 March 2024 15:51 (two months ago) link
Mad Lads - "Make This Young Lady Mine"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irbUNcNRl5I
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 8 March 2024 16:04 (two months ago) link
this is legitimately one of the best late night performances i've ever seen!
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 8 March 2024 16:09 (two months ago) link
― enochroot, Friday, 8 March 2024 19:57 (two months ago) link
All of their vinyl records are on sale at TTL:https://www.turntablelab.com/search?sort=price-descending&q=de%20la%20soul&_=pf&pf_v_artist_manufacturer=De%20La%20Soul&pf_st_stock_status=true&goal=0_8b218d7604-91d5b9e00f-31345977&mc_cid=91d5b9e00f&mc_eid=365684acc9
― Indexed, Friday, 8 March 2024 20:03 (two months ago) link