― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 01:44 (twenty years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 01:46 (twenty years ago) link
*checks*
Ah no, I have Voyager instead.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 01:53 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 01:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 02:12 (twenty years ago) link
Didn't like the Moray Eels album as much despite the inclusion of third member Anders (who's pretty damn near brilliant as a guitarist) but I love that first song "Where The Fuck's My Wallet" and when I saw them live, that song OWNED.
I miss them.
Scott, are you familiar with the Reservoir albums? It's Judd solo. First one is kinda weird post-Kranky dronage, but the next one, Pink Machine, is definitely up yr alley if you dig the prog elements of Moray Eels...
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 02:23 (twenty years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 02:28 (twenty years ago) link
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 02:30 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 02:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 02:43 (twenty years ago) link
I already did when it was first released! (and yes it's great)
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 03:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 04:01 (twenty years ago) link
Rog, did you know Ed @ Zero Hour? He Ruled! He later went on to start RETROACTIVE, putting out KILLER GARAGE/SIKE stuff...creation, easybeats, the smoke...etc. I've sort of lost touch with him.
― ddb (ddb), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 11:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 12:20 (twenty years ago) link
― NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 14:03 (twenty years ago) link
I STILL LOVE THIS ALBUM.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link
okay, fine, i'll probably always love it.
Naught wrong with that.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I shoulda picked it up when I saw it at Frugal Muse, now it's gone. :[
― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link
i still have never heard the first album. i'm too afraid it won't be as good and i will no longer think that space needle could do no wrong.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link
which is possibly crazy.
It's perfect if you are a space-rock/prog/pop/feedback/noise fan.
have just ordered this from amazon
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
i remember liking this a bunch back in late 90s. haven't heard it since then. at the time i also really liked You Fantastic. anyone a fan of them?
― jaxon, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link
I got this one day after selfban! It's great! They evince a sort of sombre, emotionally crushing majesty. Really good stuff.
― Just got offed, Friday, 30 May 2008 12:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Awesome album.
But the most crazy-awesome thing is that it completely works if you line it up as five "Taking Sides" equations.
Witness:
Where The Fucks My Wallet vs. Hyapatia LeeFlowers For Algernon vs. BladewashNever Lonely Alone vs. Love Left Us StrangersOld Spice vs. Hot For KrishnaMore Than Goodnight vs. One Kind Of Lullaby
Not only are those TS's ALL extremely hard to call, but the first three at least, maybe even first four are all of such quality that determining the best TS is a near-impossible task. Personally would probably pick FFA vs. Bladewash but jeez it's tough.
― country matters, Monday, 22 December 2008 10:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Both albums are sick. I'm gonna listen to this right now.
― billstevejim, Monday, 22 December 2008 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link
How does the first record compare?
― country matters, Monday, 22 December 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link
i like voyager better personally, seems a little more "focused" though that's a relative term for space needle. maybe i just mean the songs are shorter. "before i lose my style" is one of my favorite songs
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 22 December 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 22 December 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link
nice, ty
seems to be in the langorous "never lonely alone" style, which i <3
― country matters, Monday, 22 December 2008 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link
I've been watching Veronica Mars, and "Never Lonely Alone" turns up in one of the season two episodes, which is kind of weird as it's the kind of show that seems to use current (at the time) music but I don't think Space Needle were active anymore when the episode aired (like 2006ish).
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link
I came across a copy of this for three bucks last night and bought it based on the cover art and a vague recollection of reading the name at some point way back when it came out. I got home too late last night to give it a listen yet, but I was pleased to see scott loved it!
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 30 June 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Epic nineties psych sounds like a good idea right now
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 30 June 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link
YES! One of my favorite 90s records.
I love that "Old Spice" got its title because they thought the vocals & vocal melody sounded like Phil Collins, which it totally does.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 30 June 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Man, "Old Spice" is a great song, lots of cool "Heroes"/Low Fripp-like action on it, and a really cool vocal (in my opinion). Used to put that on a lot of mixes.
― grandavis, Thursday, 30 June 2011 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Gotta dig this CD out of the box and get back into it.
― grandavis, Thursday, 30 June 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Love Voyager, still haven't gotten around to this one besides a few songs.
― Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Thursday, 30 June 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
I find Space Needle a little too all over the place. While the ground covered is covered well, would rather it have been a little more streamlined (too succeed as an album I can listen to straight through that is, which I almost never did). Really love about 5 of the songs on it though, well worthwhile (as is Voyager).
Wanna say that I really like the Reservoir stuff too, some great songs.
― grandavis, Thursday, 30 June 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
I think Voyager is pretty cohesive, but Moray seemed like it was much more varied based on what people have said/pieces of songs I've heard. Voyager has that really wistful yet not too melodramatic quality that I've come to love coming from music of that era. Though it is pretty melancholy, I think.
― Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Thursday, 30 June 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link
I saw them live at the Halifax Pop Explosion in 1995. Kinda made up for Elliott Smith not showing up. Love Left Us Strangers was mindbending!
― Brooker T Buckingham, Thursday, 30 June 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Finally found a copy of this disc for a dollar in a used bin. I'm completely addicted to it. Both of these albums are incredible and deserve reissues and renewed interest.
― Evan, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link
"Old Spice", amongst many other of these songs, is still a jam. Just heard it again for the first time since posting on this thread hah hah.
― grandavis, Friday, 10 June 2016 12:19 (eight years ago) link
great great band
― Immediate Follower (NA), Friday, 10 June 2016 14:26 (eight years ago) link
I love both of their albums so much. One of my favorites for sure.
― Evan, Friday, 10 June 2016 14:36 (eight years ago) link
2nd album is really, really lovely
― imago, Friday, 10 June 2016 14:52 (eight years ago) link
oh i'm up there saying so in early-me style
― imago, Friday, 10 June 2016 14:53 (eight years ago) link
Does that lp reflect the Holy Modal Rounders psychedelic lp in any other way than the title? I'm assuming that's where they got the name from anyway. Heard that the original lp got its name from one of the 2 main Rounders having formed another band but returning to the Holy Modal Rounders name for commercial reasons or something to that effect.
― Stevolende, Friday, 10 June 2016 14:58 (eight years ago) link
not much to add except that I dig both proper albums a lot
check out Couloursound's You're Only As Good As Your Sound for more post-S3 art damage
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Friday, 10 June 2016 15:00 (eight years ago) link
"7 new answers" just got me excited that they had booked some shows or something.
― billstevejim, Friday, 10 June 2016 15:12 (eight years ago) link
Would love to be able to see that drummer in a live setting.
― Evan, Friday, 10 June 2016 15:16 (eight years ago) link
i just saw that all this stuff (space needle/ reservoir) is being re issued digitally next weekhttp://tractor-beam.com/jud-ehrbar-of-space-needle-reservoir/
― mizzell, Friday, 10 June 2016 15:22 (eight years ago) link
LInernotes from the cd reissue of the Holy Modal Rounders lp they got the title from. looks like Stampfel put the Moray Eels together as a rock band after falling out with Weberhttp://www.richieunterberger.com/moray.html
― Stevolende, Friday, 10 June 2016 15:28 (eight years ago) link
who cares, post about that on a holy modal rounders thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa3QKnvuWcY
― Immediate Follower (NA), Friday, 10 June 2016 15:30 (eight years ago) link
I def need to listen to this, don't I?
― gate crimes legislation (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 10 June 2016 22:18 (eight years ago) link
Well yeah
― Evan, Friday, 10 June 2016 23:47 (eight years ago) link
it's awesome. i still listen to it. great atmosphere. great atmosphere is underrated.
― scott seward, Saturday, 11 June 2016 00:35 (eight years ago) link
Amazing live band too. Caught 'em on the Moray Eels tour when they were a 3 piece (with a pre-bearded Anders Parker on 2nd guitar, who shreds btw)
― Wimmels, Saturday, 11 June 2016 03:19 (eight years ago) link
You know, I like Yerself is Steam just fine for what it is, but this here is the album I always kind of wished it was instead
― I gotta stop (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 12 November 2016 11:42 (seven years ago) link
i still listen to this album. let's put it that way.
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 November 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link
or i'm gonna put it that way anyway. you don't have to. i liked yerself is steam when it came out. but i don't own a copy anymore.
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 November 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link
i still don't have a copy of the first space needle album. i just never see one.
Best album! Well, equal to their first in my opinion. They don't sound the slightest bit dated. There's a good chance I said that upthread somewhere.
― Evan, Saturday, 12 November 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link
Voyager > Moray Eels imo, but only by a little bit
― Wimmels, Saturday, 12 November 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link
I'd agree, actually. I'm definitely closer to Voyager. It's very haunting.
― Evan, Saturday, 12 November 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link
Naw this is def peak 1997. I can definitely see myself loving this for the next couple decades
― I gotta stop (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 13 November 2016 02:48 (seven years ago) link
(Yeah I just used both 'definitely' and the abbreviated 'def' both in the same post *sigh*)
― I gotta stop (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 13 November 2016 02:50 (seven years ago) link
Skot, they don't really sound like Space Needle, but just asking: do you like any ST37? Cuz they also have a couple of albums that are just the fucking best...
― I gotta stop (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 13 November 2016 02:52 (seven years ago) link
i don't. i'll look them up.
i've been listening to lenola's swerving corpse album a lot lately. from 1997. but that is more shoegaze + GBV. sorta.
― scott seward, Sunday, 13 November 2016 05:43 (seven years ago) link
listening to st37 now and it's hard to believe that they never played a show with my brother in the 90's.
― scott seward, Sunday, 13 November 2016 05:48 (seven years ago) link
Theyve been around for 39 years and last year was the first time they got a gig in Detroit, which blows my mind
― I gotta stop (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 13 November 2016 07:19 (seven years ago) link
*30
― I gotta stop (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 13 November 2016 07:20 (seven years ago) link
― scott seward, Sunday, November 13, 2016 12:43 AM (thirteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I love that album! My Invisible Name is a fantastic record by them as well.
― Evan, Sunday, 13 November 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link
Yeah I'll check it out
― I gotta stop (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 14 November 2016 08:32 (seven years ago) link
i just noticed yesterday that the versions of the two albums on spotify are @2016 tractor beam (not zero hour) and have bonus tracks on them that i've never heard ... was there a reissue?
― na (NA), Monday, 1 May 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link
bonus track "sun doesn't love me" on moray eels is very nice though almost a flaming lips song
― na (NA), Monday, 1 May 2017 21:33 (seven years ago) link
this funky remix of "love left us strangers" is pretty goofy
― na (NA), Monday, 1 May 2017 21:34 (seven years ago) link
ack, i wouldn't want to hear remixes!
― scott seward, Monday, 1 May 2017 23:54 (seven years ago) link
it sounds like the same song but with a 90s break beat and funky bass. not good but kind of funny
― na (NA), Monday, 1 May 2017 23:57 (seven years ago) link
Those updates might be recent. If they aren't, then I'm surprised I didn't notice the bonus tracks until now.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 02:02 (seven years ago) link
Charles Aaron was/is almost certainly a fan of Zero Hour since "Sun Doesn't Love Me" (and a Varnaline single) were both in Spin's best of 1996 list, which is mostly crazy since it was impossible to find for years. I even had trouble finding it on Slsk until it showed up on "Recordings 1994-1997."
So now there's only a few songs Space Needle songs still absent from Spotify: "Sugar Mountain," "Cones and Rods," I'm probably forgetting 1 or 2 others.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 02:50 (seven years ago) link
this is one of those bands where i wish i was a billionaire and could start a niche reissue label that reissued albums with lavish packaging and dense documentation that would probably sell 60 copies total
love their commitment to having 2-3 perfect pop songs buried amongst 8-9 weirdo experiments on each album
― na (NA), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 16:09 (nine months ago) link
"never lonely alone" off voyager is in my pantheon of all-time best songs
― na (NA), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 16:10 (nine months ago) link
oh fuck i mean "before i lose my style" sorry i have a cold and my brain is not working. "never lonely alone" is amazing too obviously but the the lo-fi sound and extended feedback solo in "before i lose my style" are my shit
― na (NA), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 16:11 (nine months ago) link
Love to see this thread bumped. It's an overused phrase, but I do think "criminally underrated" absolutely applies to them.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 16:24 (nine months ago) link
In other words, I would be one of your 60 customers for sure.
― na (NA), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 16:09 (fifty-six minutes ago) link
There is a label run by a very non-billionaire that does this for obscure album reissues without much scrutiny. Told me "I'll put out anything" so seems entirely passion-based. Focuses on indie pop / shoegaze though (https://www.daydreamrecordsofficial.com).
Anyway it's not totally out of the question to give it a shot in this current environment of ravenous physical music FOMO insanity. For myself I am happy to say I own every physical product they've ever released except the CD comp that came out in 2006.
― Evan, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 17:16 (nine months ago) link
that label looks really cool, some sarah records stuff
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 18:16 (nine months ago) link
Yup small run elaborately colorful vinyl... a necessary recipe to drive sales for obscurities. Basically develops and releases whatever he can get his hands on though!
― Evan, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 18:39 (nine months ago) link
― budo jeru, Thursday, 30 November 2023 01:07 (nine months ago) link
Agreed, it made me smile to see this thread revived! I was 14 and just starting to learn about space rock/ambient/drone, so this scratched an itch but also expanded my mind way beyond what I knew. And even just on CD, the Roger Dean artwork absolutely did the trick, it really made it feel like it was coming from another world...at least the epic pieces here did so.
I think at one point I had read it was going to just be the long pieces? (Am I making that up?) But the poppier stuff absolutely makes this a richer experience. I love that "Old Spice" is disintegrating shoegaze with cribbed Steely Dan lyrics (didn't know that at the time, of course) and yes, "Love Left Us Strangers" is pretty perfect...this is the kind of thing that at the time I think some reviewers thought was ironic--maybe understandable in the face of the artwork or some of the song titles, but pretty disarming on its own.
Truthfully, I haven't listened to this or Voyager in a long time, but they're both really special albums. Soft spot in my heart for the first Reservoir and Varnaline albums, too.
― mr. milligan, Thursday, 30 November 2023 14:54 (nine months ago) link
A deeply weird record.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 30 November 2023 15:07 (nine months ago) link
I would pick up reissues of these. It took many years of waiting, but I finally found a store selling Moray Eels Eat The Space Needle on discogs for a price that wasn't outrageous. Their 7-inches are all still pretty inexpensive.
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 00:07 (nine months ago) link
Yeah as a 90s underground indie vinyl collector there's a randomness to 7" demand amongst bands. Sometimes the price spikes on particular titles for various incidental "collectible" reasons, other times a mystery (usually just because some nut-job decided they'd pull the trigger on an opportunistic $30 price tag thereby validating the price even though other comparable titles remain cheap), but in general lots of 7"s from the era are still pretty dang affordable despite whatever higher price the LPs are fetching.
― Evan, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 15:33 (nine months ago) link