― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:29 (twenty years ago) link
I hate list making as a rule. I think the thing about SPIN's list this year is how I really couldn't have predicted a lot of this stuff - it doesn't make much sense to me, and it makes me feel very out of touch with their target demo (which is fine, but it does feel weird cos there was a time when I was 16/17/18/19 and their year end list made total sense to me).
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:30 (twenty years ago) link
WTF, this is a 2002 release -- and not even late 2002, it was popular in the summer.
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:32 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:34 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link
Just look at the albums on the list! White Stripes, Radiohead, Dizzee Rascal, Jay-Z, 50 Cent, Outkast, Missy Elliott, The Strokes, The Rapture, Spiritualized, Bubba Sparxx, Basement Jaxx, Electric Six, Joe Budden, Ms Dynamite... The only thing missing is Sean Paul.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:37 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:37 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:39 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:39 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:40 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:40 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:41 (twenty years ago) link
39 The Jealous Sound36 The Thrills35 Brand New34 My Morning Jacket32 Kings Of Leon23 Ms Dynamite19 Atmosphere15 AFI
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:43 (twenty years ago) link
AFI is a nu-punk band.
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:44 (twenty years ago) link
This is my friend Brian's #1 of the year. That said, I hadn't even heard of them until he told me that a few weeks ago.
34 My Morning Jacket
I think I've heard our friends in Lexington talk about them, maybe? Emily, at least.
23 Ms Dynamite
The United Kingdom to thread.
19 Atmosphere
Of those eight that you mention, Atmosphere probably gets the most ILM love. See: Nate Patrin.
15 AFI
Yeah, okay, good point. But I think the kids know them. I was driving past the Riviera (the biggest non-arena venue in Chicago) a month or two ago and got stuck in traffic as this show was letting out. I looked up at the marqee and said WHO THE FUCK?
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:45 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:46 (twenty years ago) link
Really? I've been reading Charles Aaron's writing in SPIN since I was a young teen, and I always thought of him as being a super-white guy. I'm not even sure why - something about his writing makes me think of nerdy white grad students.
I always thought that Sasha Frere-Jones was a woman up until fairly recently.
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:47 (twenty years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:50 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:51 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:51 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:52 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:52 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:55 (twenty years ago) link
Ouch.
― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:55 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:56 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:57 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:58 (twenty years ago) link
― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:58 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:04 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:04 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:04 (twenty years ago) link
39 The Jealous Sound "Kill Them With Kindness"36 The Thrills "So Much For The City"35 Brand New "Deja Entendu"31 Spiritualized "Amazing Grace"22 Pretty Girls Make Graves "The New Romance"16 Blur "Think Tank"11 Metallica "St. Anger"07 Thursday "War All The Time"Jane's Addiction "Just Because" (which I don't think I've ever heard)19 T Rumschmiere "Monstertruckdriver"12 The Donnas "Take It Off" (fine, but just another Donnas track, I thought -- was this actually a hit or something? I must've missed it.)
I like that Rumschmiere album myself, though damned if I could tell you what its "single" sounds like. Most pleasant surprise on both lists, I think, is Joe Budden. But where the hell are Lil Jon and the East Side Boyz, David Banner, Ying Yang Twins, the Youngbloodz, Turk and/or any Southern hip-hop at all beyond Outkast and Bubba Sparxx, in what was probably crunk's biggest and best year ever??? How odd.
I have nothing against AFI, who are kind of catchy in a goofy way.
― chuck, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:06 (twenty years ago) link
Top 10 Reissues
10 The Moles "On The Street/Rare & Weird"09 Television "Marquee Moon"08 Aphex Twin "26 Mixes For Cash"07 Miles Davis "The Complete Jack Johnson Sessions"06 The Allman Brothers Band "Live At Fillmore East"05 New Order "Retro"04 Neil Young "On The Beach," "American Stars & Bars"03 Talking Heads "Once In A Lifetime" (box set)02 Bjork "Live Box"01 Led Zeppelin "How The West Was Won"
Band of the Year: Coldplay
Revival of the Year: Women rock the main stage (Distillers, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Donnas)
Trend of the Year: "Mainstreamo"
The Rest Of The Best
Eccentric Geniuses of the Year: Outkast
Video of the Year: Johnny Cash "Hurt"
Best Anti-Corporate Rant of the Year: Conor Oberst disses Clearchannel
Class-Action Suit of the Year: Fans sue Creed for sucking.
Movie of the Year: School of Rock
Live Band of the Year: Metallica
TV Show of the Year: Punk'd
DJ of the Year: You (iPod)
Most Desperate Grab For Relevance (Or: Weirdest Children's Book Promo: Madonna/Britney kiss at the MTV awards.
Surgical Footage of the Year: Jack White's broken finger.
Pet Rock of the Year: Friendster
Credibility Move of the Year: Justin Timberlake
Flops of the Year: Smash Mouth "Get The Picture," Robbie Williams "Escapology" (US sales only), Fischerspooner "#1," Everclear "Slow Motion Daydream," Live "Birds of Prey," Sugar Ray "In The Pursuit of Liesure," Third Eye Blind "Out of the Vein"
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:07 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 18:50 (twenty years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 18:50 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 18:51 (twenty years ago) link
Yeah, I'll publish it fairly soon. I'm just a bit lazy about rounding up all the album covers and such.
(And of course I'll be listening to Radio 3 on Friday.)
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 18:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 18:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 22:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 4 December 2003 02:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 4 December 2003 02:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 4 December 2003 04:47 (twenty years ago) link
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 4 December 2003 05:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 4 December 2003 15:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 4 December 2003 15:29 (twenty years ago) link
Ok, maybe they both reference something else, but that's where I first heard the phrase at least.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:42 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:51 (twenty years ago) link
― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:22 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:26 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:27 (twenty years ago) link
Nah, it screams "what a big lie" -- and it was, since the Avalanches album sounded way more like run-of-the-mill humorless diva house than *Paul's Boutique," no matter how many records it subtly sampled.
― chuck, Thursday, 4 December 2003 18:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 December 2003 18:38 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Thursday, 4 December 2003 18:57 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward, Thursday, 4 December 2003 19:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 4 December 2003 19:02 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Thursday, 4 December 2003 19:04 (twenty years ago) link
I just bought this issue cuz of the John Mayer/David Cross singles review thing and SPIN is so all over ILX's jock. They even did the Year In Fred Durst Craziness!
And Chuck is OTM re: The Avalanches. I found it incredibly hard to give a shit about any track for more than 10 seconds.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 4 December 2003 19:06 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward, Thursday, 4 December 2003 19:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 4 December 2003 19:12 (twenty years ago) link
33 Lucinda Williams "World Without Tears"30 Cat Power "You Are Free"21 The Mars Volta "Deloused in the Crematorium"16 Blur "Think Tank"10 Radiohead "Hail to the Thief"05 Yeah Yeah Yeahs "Fever To Tell"01 The White Stripes "Elephant"
Cat's a little laconic for me, and the Yeah Yeah Yeahs could have stood to wait until some more early-EP-quality material came along, but I like the others fine. I would love to hear the Spiritualized and the Outkast, but not too concerned about missing all the rest of it.
― Dave Vinson (Gaughin), Thursday, 4 December 2003 19:32 (twenty years ago) link
(As for being "dated," though, I dunno, I tend not to acknowledge that adjective. If music is good, it stays good. If it sucks, ditto.)
In related news: Hey, what ABOUT that "bootleg" fad, huh? Where the hell did THAT go??? (No worries; in seven years it'll be back again, and people will claim like always that it never happened before.)
― chuck, Thursday, 4 December 2003 19:36 (twenty years ago) link
The Avalanches' appeal to me isn't the "wow lookit all the samples" approach as it is the general "every genre can be pop" feel to it. It's just a great-flowing album where so many disparate pieces just seem to fit perfectly. And "serious" is the last word I would ever, ever consider when thinking about "Frontier Psychiatrist" or "Two Hearts in 3/4 Time".
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 4 December 2003 19:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 December 2003 19:55 (twenty years ago) link
Dan, "Frontier Psychiatrist" is like the everything-goes-haywire moment where every convention of the album gets ratcheted up to obsessively bombastic levels -- Since I Left You's "House of Blue Leaves" sequence. The rest of it's a lot subtler.
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 4 December 2003 19:57 (twenty years ago) link
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:00 (twenty years ago) link
I totally adore "Two Hearts in 3/4 Time."
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:09 (twenty years ago) link
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