omg she did what
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 23 May 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link
it's not bad!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 May 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link
http://maxcdn.top40-charts.com/thumb.php?x=342&&i=http://top40-charts.com/images/news/20140211021028-Collective-Soul-Announces-9th-Studio-Album-Celebra.jpg
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 23 May 2014 18:12 (ten years ago) link
Re prism, Pointless to consider an album for New Jersey status until its clear the next one is Keep The Faith.
― da croupier, Friday, 23 May 2014 18:35 (ten years ago) link
Newest album to arguably pass that muster I can think of is Born This Way
― da croupier, Friday, 23 May 2014 18:37 (ten years ago) link
Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 23 May 2014 19:13 (ten years ago) link
i dunno, isn't it at war with the mystics? yoshimi has "do you realize"
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 23 May 2014 19:18 (ten years ago) link
the yeah yeah yeah song from at war with the mystics did fairly well, yeah? no one remembers that one
Robbie Williams - Sing When You're Winning
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Friday, 23 May 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link
One mention way up there, but Moby - 18.
― That's So (Eazy), Friday, 23 May 2014 21:45 (ten years ago) link
18 definitely debuted high, but I remember it having kind of a dead-on-arrival feel. Like, the lead single was so dire that everyone knew instantly that "Moby-as-pop-music-force" was over. It wasn't an instance of "outwardly successful but ultimately hollow" as far as I can remember.
― intheblanks, Friday, 23 May 2014 22:20 (ten years ago) link
I feel like with all these cult maybe-platinum-once-maybe people keep mentioning for no goddamn sensible reason there's no fucking New Jersey (obv you fuckin solipsistic schmindie fools) but there is that album that was clearly a commercial grab that maybe charted relatively high but it was clear by the follow up that a cult act was all they were ever gonna be: Paul Westerbergs Eventually, Jon Spencer's Acme, that kinda thing.
But Jesus anyone calling that a New Jersey needs to go lick richie samboras boot until they see the light
― da croupier, Saturday, 24 May 2014 00:23 (ten years ago) link
yeah you guys are missing the point of this thread: they gotta be followups to blockbusters.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 May 2014 00:26 (ten years ago) link
just want to drop in and give thx to bon jovi for realising that new jersey is in fact their best album
― balls, Saturday, 24 May 2014 00:29 (ten years ago) link
I'm sure they thought that even at the time, since they probably had the biggest budget they'd ever had.
― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Saturday, 24 May 2014 00:32 (ten years ago) link
prism never felt like an event album to me although yes it was a followup to a blockbuster
― dyl, Saturday, 24 May 2014 14:58 (ten years ago) link
jesus…. centipede hz might be a fairweather johnsonmr impossible by black dice is a fairweather johnson
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Sunday, 25 May 2014 08:31 (ten years ago) link
Yeah Alfred OTM, why are people talking about Sonic Youth or the Flaming Lips or Animal Collective on this thread?
― Matt DC, Sunday, 25 May 2014 11:42 (ten years ago) link
ilx quotas
― getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 May 2014 11:45 (ten years ago) link
There's also these artists whose popularity massively exceeds the extent to which people actually talk about them - I have no idea if there's a Michael Buble or Snow Patrol New Jersey.
The last undeniable New Jersey is probably the 20/20 Experience. Although I'm guessing that the One Direction one, when it appears, is going to be huge and pronounced.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 25 May 2014 12:00 (ten years ago) link
I'd probably deny 2020 with a "too soon to tell" esp considering dude is in the top ten with a song off part 2 right now
― da croupier, Sunday, 25 May 2014 12:15 (ten years ago) link
And on the other hand despite the opening week boom the drop off single wise and album sales wise between future sex and 2020 part 1 is enough that New Jersey status may be too flattering.
― da croupier, Sunday, 25 May 2014 12:24 (ten years ago) link
Also hard to really say Part 2 is his Keep The Faith when its a year-later tack-on to the alleged NJ. Load works as a New Jersey becuz whether you say the follow up is reload, s&m or st anger doesn't matter. The career decline is there, no ambiguity about it.
― da croupier, Sunday, 25 May 2014 12:29 (ten years ago) link
Lol wait reload did 4x platinum anywaaaay I just think its silly to go there for newish albums, feels more like people making wishes than applying hindsight
― da croupier, Sunday, 25 May 2014 12:51 (ten years ago) link
Collapse of record sales generally over the same period also makes it hopeless to compare anything, unless we develop a statistic that denotes an album's sales divided by total album sales in all formats at that date, times some factor to keep it from being a tiny fraction or w/e.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 25 May 2014 13:11 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbEB7tQF80
― maura, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:07 (ten years ago) link
THE ONLY ROCK ALBUM IN HISTORY WITH 5 TOP TEN HITS should have a "60s bands released multiple albums a year, jovi hawked one over two years, don't get it twisted" asterisk
― da croupier, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:17 (ten years ago) link
the only *rock* album you'll note. there must have been tons more in other genres. weedy boast IMO.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link
"the only rock album in history with with 5 top ten hits"??? bon jovi might want to talk to a certain neighbor of theirs on the jersey shore about that.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link
also, obvi, the "5" should be spelled out and the "ten" should not. don't they teach ap style at rock school anymore?
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:20 (ten years ago) link
also wait a goddamn minute doesn't born in the usa have like 7 top ten hits
lol xpost
― da croupier, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:20 (ten years ago) link
Maybe they're sneaking by on the fact that Born in the USA had 7 top 10 hits. That's not 5! It's 7! Only New Jersey had 5.
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:22 (ten years ago) link
tico torres was on some bullshit like "max played with a jazz grip on that album, it barely even counts as rock"
― some dude, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link
That Jovi's going with this claim only make me angrier that Def Leppard's "Rocket" only got to #12.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link
I hope Bon Jovi got real pedantic and used this logic to make this argument with someone.
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:24 (ten years ago) link
an album that could have achieved this if the label had given a fuck about the honor re: single formatting - Jagged Little Pill
― da croupier, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:29 (ten years ago) link
("Ironic," "You Oughta Know" and "You Learn" all went Top 10, "Hand In My Pocket" and "Head Over Feet" did well enough on related charts to suggest it was a technicality they didn't make the big one)
― da croupier, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:30 (ten years ago) link
― some dude, Wednesday, June 25, 2014 12:23 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hahahahahaha
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:36 (ten years ago) link
didn't the alanis record predate the whole dropping of the physical-single requirement for the hot 100
― maura, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:39 (ten years ago) link
Maybe they're sneaking by on the fact that Born in the USA had 7 top 10 hits. That's not 5! It's 7! Only New Jersey had 5.― intheblanks, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 12:22 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkI hope Bon Jovi got real pedantic and used this logic to make this argument with someone.― intheblanks, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 12:24 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 12:22 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 12:24 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Lol, well, if we're being pedantic, Born in the USA did have five top 10 hits; it just had an additional two. Someone could conceivably debate whether it really counts as a rock album (given that e.g. Thriller obv doesn't count) but I don't know if Bon Jovi is that someone.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:41 (ten years ago) link
yup, re alanis. "hand" and "head" went to #4 and #1 respectively on the "mainstream Top 40" chart
but man, even if we accept the technicality, bon forgetting about bruce is hysterical
― da croupier, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:42 (ten years ago) link
I could see someone associated with the Jovi organization, or JovCorp, arguing that BITUSA doesn't count because there's no loud guitars on "Dancing in the Dark" or "My Hometown."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:43 (ten years ago) link
apparently huey lewis and the news' album "fore!" also had five top 10s. as did "invisible touch" by genesis. in fact the latter had five top 5 hits.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:43 (ten years ago) link
yeah but those guys aren't REAL rock and roll, they've got a lot of synths and...oh wait
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Pv9JXDdJSQI/TwEk6ocfR2I/AAAAAAAAAXc/nk2D_vkplNM/s1600/Bon%252BJovi%252BPerforms%252BNBC%252Bs%252BToday%252BG2YcCVM9mW-l.jpg
― da croupier, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:47 (ten years ago) link
Pretty clear that they didn't actually fact check this assertion at all. I hope it's just something that's been accepted as true in the Bon Jovi camp for the past 25 years.
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:50 (ten years ago) link
whoever came up with that claim was totally trolling people in this thread
― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:50 (ten years ago) link
i mean way to make your huge event album feel a bit hollow, bon jovi
― da croupier, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:52 (ten years ago) link
Some think the verses have an eerily and uncredited similarity (both musically and melodically) to John Lennon's Beatles' track "Don't Let Me Down" (recorded during the Get Back sessions) and the chorus was claimed, by some fans of the late 1980s hard rock genre, to have been culled from an unreleased song by Joel Ellis of Cats in Boots and Heavy Bones.[2][3] Ellis has said that Lehua Reid (Richie Sambora's ex-fiancée) regaled him with anecdotes regarding Jon Bon Jovi and Richie Sambora "sitting at the piano for hours with a box full of tapes they got from people and going through the songs looking for stuff they could rip off and laughing about it, your [Ellis'] song was played over and over and over."[3]
― how's life, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:54 (ten years ago) link
haha hard working plagiarists, sitting at a piano for hours trying not to create anything original
― some dude, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link
then laughing about it
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 18:07 (ten years ago) link