Macklemore, "Same Love"

sorry for the pseudo-"haven't I blown your mind??" phrasing on that last one.

I just kind of feel all this "Reagan Democrat/music for white people who are afraid of rap" stuff understates the size of this guy's fan base.

this... is a huge fan base though? as evidenced by the success of Macklemore (welcome to Tautologies R Us)

Nelly and Macklemore comparison is off for the simple fact that Hip-hop and rap stations actually played Nelly. Macklemore's songs barely have a presence on radio-based rap charts.

welcome to Tautologies R Us

where you're guaranteed to go round and round w/your cart or your money back

xps

but run-dmc/aerosmith makes sense as like rock crossover, as did at least some of the beastie boys they played (sabotage, fight for your right)

playing eminem on the other hand was just so transparently not about the music's ostensible genre

Yeah, I take back the Nelly thing, that was bogus, sorry about that.

DJP probably otm, probably should rethink before I go nuts posting again, sorry all.

eminem no longer gets played by rap radio either and hasn't for years and years

r.i.p. big man

Macklemore should hook the Nelly crowd by joining Tim McGraw on his "Sundown Heaven Town Tour"

i think there is definitely a lot of trying to define the macklemore audience as NOT LIKE ME in this thread because people dont like his music (and the unfortunate fact of his success). pretty basic distancing 101. which is not to say that he doesn't suck. and not to say that many of his fans probably suck (but find me an act that you couldn't say that about). but let's not go crazy here.

if i was a macklemore fan, i'd swear ilx hates me

lol

Every song of his I've heard is a smug, horrible, hateful thing. Fans of his are not real music fans as far as I'm concerned.

k

The Heist [self-released, 2012]

The question isn't whether this Seattle alt-rapper is a cornball, it's whether he's so dumb he's a cornball or so brave he's a cornball. The answer is "Same Love," the best gay marriage song to date in any genre and as corny as it damn well oughta be. Sure there's too much "who I really was," too much "a life lived for art is never a life wasted." And though the co-billed Lewis is big and original for an alt-beatmaker, his percussion-oriented version of an E Street Band, strings-swell-to-big-finish aesthetic has its icky moments. But as someone who shares Macklemore's moral views if not his equation of sincerity with soul, I find only the alcoholic's confession "Neon Cathedral" too much, and that one's counteracted by the relapser's confession "Starting Over," just as "Sayin' 'That's poetry, it's so well-spoken,' stop it" counteracts his art talk. He's especially good on old cars and old clothes. B+

ha he's always excused well-meaning liberal garbage tho

The couple black Macklemore fans I have met, I have questioned whether they are actual Don Lemon clones.

ha he's always excused well-meaning liberal garbage tho

― goole, Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:26 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he said, panicky

but run-dmc/aerosmith makes sense as like rock crossover, as did at least some of the beastie boys they played (sabotage, fight for your right)

it might have made sense if those same rock stations had also played run-dmc's "rock box" or "king of rock" once in a while, but i don't recall that ever happening. the only crossover rock stations cared about was crossing over to white faces on the album cover.

you guys are dumb mackelmore def has a demographic like all artists do to a certain extent but with him particularly hes had a p long career of building a hardcore grassroots audience that has is a v specific demo, then he got a few huge hits, I guess u cld call everyone who thinks thrift shop is good a macklemore "fan" its p obvs that they're not too committed, now if you look at the history of music charts just because you make some hits doesnt mean you then make hits forever sometimes you dont and you lose those casual fans, but if like macklemore you have those hardcore fans to fall back on thats good, even prob through your hits you've managed to pickup more hardcore fans of a similar type to yr previous hardcore fans, and fwiw he was not at all just some rando undie rapper before his hits he was doing p good for himself, my feeling is based on the kinda amateurish quality if his music that he will more likely be a flash in the pan nothing abt his music saying pro hit maker to me

Yeah, I definitely said he'd be famous forever, not that he'd have probably 2-3 more records as a "star" before fading a little, but still always being able to fill a respectable venue. I also called him a "moderately successful undie rapper," which as you pointed out is totally distinct from "he was doing p good for himself."

For what it's worth, the career trajectory I predict for dude is probably closest to, like, Mumford & Sons; not guaranteed famous forever, but not a quick Alanis Morissette-style fade from broad popularity. My feeling is based on my interactions with a ton of 21- to 24-year-olds in a random professional setting, many of whom were more than casual fans and were all about The Heist.

Hell, I may be wrong. Honestly kind of hope I am.

I think without the benefit of social media, Macklemore would've gone the way of Arrested Development or PM Dawn after his time in the spotlight. Now, though, he can stay in people's faces indefinitely.

predict 1st single from next album peaks at #22 next one fails to break the top 50, hes still oddly popular but no one notices

over two million people follow him on twitter, so someone likes him

u guys need to find better metrics than twitter followers and 22 y/os at work imo

ok i'll do a survey

i think there is definitely a lot of trying to define the macklemore audience as NOT LIKE ME in this thread because people dont like his music

Yeah, but he's also way more popular than Arrested Development or PM Dawn ever were. He's had 4 top 15 hits off the same record. Totally possible that it's all driven by casual fans and there has only been a minor change in his core fanbase; I'm just predicting otherwise.

fair point on the coworkers thing. Just some anecdata to add to the stuff I just posted.

Who knows, maybe he'll Alanis, that'd be fine with me.

can we stop this is dumb i apologize for starting it this used to be a cool thread for making fun of maklemore before people started writing dissertations abt a good tweet and arguing abt the meaning of the word fan

yeah, fair point. sorry about that; I was totally the driver on both those things.

seems like only yesterday that he was performing in an anti-semitic costume in front of hundreds of cheering people

Yeah, but he's also way more popular than Arrested Development or PM Dawn ever were.

Probably true. I just used them as an example of posi-hiphop that people who say "I don't like rap, but..." generally gravitate towards. This guy's fame graph has bell curve all over it, though.

can we stop this is dumb i apologize for starting it this used to be a cool thread for making fun of maklemore before people started writing dissertations abt a good tweet and arguing abt the meaning of the word fan

it's not just the thread that's the internet now, you want a joke you get a dissertation

when i try to open this whole thread chrome gives me a malware warning i feel like there's a joke here somewhere

Mackleware

Macklefee Security Center

Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned)
Posted: May 21, 2014 at 2:39:06 AM

it's not just the thread that's the internet now, you want a joke you get a dissertation

:( true

ha he's always excused well-meaning liberal garbage tho

― goole, Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:26 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=northern+state

lol sg

lol had not heard about this before:

During the 2013 NBA Playoffs, the Oklahoma City Thunder were using the song "Can't Hold Us"[10] to pump up the crowd during their games. Macklemore, a Seattle native and fan of the former Seattle SuperSonics, requested that the Thunder, who moved from Seattle to Oklahoma City in 2008, not play the song. The Thunder acquiesced.[11]

http://i.imgur.com/xSERKuU.png

makes sense.

ha of course

typical. showbiz jews taking care of their own.

distinguishing factors between macklemore versus pm dawn/arrested development hmm

get a vibe from this guy like, googlebot assigned to index buzzfeed listicles/upworthy videos achieves sentience, starts rapping

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