those songs are all great except for 'love you to' imo.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link
tbh, an album consisting of darin's rejects on side 1 and how's life's rejects on side 2 would be a damn good album.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 19:02 (ten years ago) link
superior 'Take 7' of Here There And Everywhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRrZBj7vaSc
― piscesx, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 19:02 (ten years ago) link
i'm only sleeping has always been the height of revolver to me. TNK is spectacular obviously but for the backwards-guitar psychedelic jams i've always preferred IOS.
― marcos, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 19:04 (ten years ago) link
I'm happy being wrong in a universe Eleanor Rigby. I could probably get by with just Doctor Robert, got to get you into my life, and your bird can sing, and yellow submarine.
― how's life, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link
And Your Bird Sing also got robbed. hell, almost all of the songs got robbed. tomorrow never knows is a classic but it doesn't tower above the rest of the album like this poll suggests
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, there was so much hype about TNK before I heard it and then its just three minutes long? That song needed to be at least 7 minutes or so, imo.
― how's life, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 19:27 (ten years ago) link
I thought "Help" was the current "Best Beatles Album" thesedays?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 20:33 (ten years ago) link
I'd love to see where this album would rank in The Beatles' discography if 'Tomorrow Never Knows' was left off. While I love many of the songs on this album, it seems (at times) that the album's entire reputation hinges on that track alone.
Also, McCartney's songs on this record are much better than his contributions to Pepper.
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 20:37 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACRIrMcjBXY
― Pentatonic's Rendezvous Band (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 20:49 (ten years ago) link
inferior songs to revolver:
mean mr. mustardmaxwell's silver hammerher majestyhoney piewild honey piepiggiesyer bluesrocky racoon
― Darin, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 18:56 (1 hour ago) Permalink
love a bunch of these. lol are we really counting "Her Majesty" as something though?
dig the whole Abbey Road medley actually, my main beef is with the first side cuz I think Lennon'd basically checked out at that point. Which maybe makes me the reverse of people who hate "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"
― nova, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:01 (ten years ago) link
'Maxwell's Silver Hammer' gets an undeserved slagging from some, IMHO.
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:06 (ten years ago) link
the album version of 'maxwell' is a bit too cutesy for my taste -- all the sound effects et al just make me think of wings at their worst. but yeah it's certainly no worse as a song than 'bungalow bill' or 'rocky raccoon.' i like the anthology version where it's just paul + piano.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link
this thread hijacked my day and somehow led me to this youtube clip of all the revolver sessions, overdubs, etc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMzGZCaHOfU
I've heard most of these bootlegs, but this one is incredibly exhaustive. Hearing the isolated TNK loops is really cool.
― Darin, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jMzGZCaHOfU
― Darin, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link
All this hate for Rocky Raccoon is inappropriate. That song is clearly in the top 10 Paul songs. That story telling, the amazing harpsichord ditty, and the chorus is simply beautiful. I get it can seem 'gimicky', but it is the best kind of 'gimicky' I've ever found in a song.
Barrel of fun to play as well.
― H.P, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link
I like silly Beatles
― now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:50 (ten years ago) link
I really, intensely dislike 'Rocky Raccoon'.
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link
i don't ever listen to any other beatles album now, just this. the older ones are too slight (tho i used to like to play rubber soul) and the later ones too indulgent and lousy w/ beatlesisms.
― j., Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link
"All this hate for Rocky Raccoon is inappropriate. That song is clearly in the top 10 Paul songs"
real talk, + "silly Beatles" is part of why The White Album's my fave
The lesser songs on that are ones that're just more bland imo
― nova, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link
Thinking that Her Majesty is an inferior song seems like such a fundamental misunderstanding of the Beatles.
― how's life, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:58 (ten years ago) link
It's easy to pick as a favorite bc it has the most tracks that haven't been played to death, perhaps.
Also it has she said she said and tmrw never knows which both dovetailed nicely with 80s underground noise vibe. I remember the first notice I had that revolver was "important" to know/have was a Bob Mould interview c 1985 where he named it as his favorite record.
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:08 (ten years ago) link
It = revolver
is it weird that I have an issue with the drumming on "She Said She Said" and it kills the song for me
probably but w/e
― nova, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:09 (ten years ago) link
huh, i think the drumming there is some of ringo's best
― tylerw, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:10 (ten years ago) link
listening to those bootlegs, what strikes me most about revolver's songs is the overall cohesiveness - the reoccurring drones, themes of death - and the equal amount of participation between the four.
― Darin, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:25 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, that's one of the first songs I'd play to convince the otherwise unconvinced of Ringo's brilliance.
xp
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:28 (ten years ago) link
and the equal amount of participation between the four.
iirc, "Eleanor Rigby" even had lyrical contributions from Ringo!
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:29 (ten years ago) link
The drumming on 'She Said She Said' is some of his best ever drumming to my ears. In fact, the Revolver period is quite possibly Ringo's best period for drumming... 'She Said She Said', 'Rain', 'Tomorrow Never Knows'...
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:33 (ten years ago) link
it seems like some degree of apathy creeps into most of their subsequent recording (at least from a few members). revolver seems like the last document of the beatles believing in being beatles and collectively reaching for something.
― Darin, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:37 (ten years ago) link
and yes, total agreement on Ringo's drumming from this period
― Darin, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:38 (ten years ago) link
xp yeah, i mean, a lot of his drumming there is ... unprecedented? not sure where that style really came from tbh. it's amazing -- tomorrow never knows, she said, rain -- who else was playing like that in 1965?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:38 (ten years ago) link
"Rain" has a few faintly Moon-like moments, mainly in terms of fill placement, but other than that, yeah, no one was doing that shit then.
Ringo used to complain bitterly -- more than the others -- about having to tour when no one could hear them, and they couldn't hear themselves. He used to say that he had to hack away at the bass and snare to hold them together, and doing anything on the toms would just vanish into the gale of screams. So when he got to the studio, he must've felt let off the leash, finally able to dig into all these ideas he'd been storing up.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:42 (ten years ago) link
maybe a bit of Keith Moon influence? xp
― Darin, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:43 (ten years ago) link
― Darin, Tuesday, May 20, 2014 5:29 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Wow, this is fascinating! Thanks for posting! Take 8 of GTGYIML is great; you can hear the drums clearer, and it sounds like there's fuzz guitar doing what the horns would later do.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:45 (ten years ago) link
xp yeah moon is sort of the go-to when it comes to the "play a fill for the whole song" kinda drumming. wasn't sure of the chronology there, if ringo would've been aware of him by the time the revolver sessions rolled around. probably?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:46 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, they were definitely drinking buddies by that point.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link
Glad you liked the link, Tarfumes. There's a similarly cool, unused fuzz bass track on one of the Love You Too tracks.
― Darin, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link
I'm on that one now! Man, they should put out a legit mix of this; would be totally heavy.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:51 (ten years ago) link
yeah would be totally into a "complete Revolver sessions" box set a la the pet sounds set.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:54 (ten years ago) link
At this rate, they're more likely to release them as an iTunes-only "bootleg recordings" thing, like those 1963 recordings.
(Fuck, it only took them THREE YEARS to get from "From Me To You" to Revolver?!)
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:58 (ten years ago) link
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Amazing, isn't it? That's how long Coldplay take between albums, to put that into perspective.
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 23:01 (ten years ago) link
on Revolver being more of a Beatles-together album -- I dunno, Lennon and McCartney seem to be aiming for completely different things there. Compare to Rubber Soul, Pepper (more of a McCartney project but still,) White Album even has a certain general "sound" to it even if the compositions are pretty different
― nova, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 23:02 (ten years ago) link
if you listen to the raw tracks of Paperback Writer, Love You Too and TNK, you'll hear more similarities than differences. I hear a hivemind approach to this album that I don't get from Pepper or the others that follow.
― Darin, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 23:12 (ten years ago) link
i think they were all pretty into making sgt pepper even though it seems pretty paul-heavy. definitely seems like the all-for-one group mentality disappeared pretty rapidly after that, though. part of why abbey road is the saddest of all their albums -- they're trying to bring that spirit back one last time, and it's sort of there but all the apathy and meanness is there too.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 23:19 (ten years ago) link
Coldplay's new album is great btw and I don't know what critics are hearing
not to derail thread just someone mentioned 'em lol so I thought I'd sneak it in there. plus I dunno if a thread for 'em exists
― nova, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 23:23 (ten years ago) link
I seem to recall Paul complaining that George disappeared in the middle of Pepper to paint his house. Also, Ringo said in the anthology series that he was bored and learned to play chess because of all the overdubs.
― Darin, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 23:27 (ten years ago) link
part of why abbey road is the saddest of all their albums -- they're trying to bring that spirit back one last time, and it's sort of there but all the apathy and meanness is there too.
i think they actually got that spirit back on the let it be album. i've seen the movie and i've read the books and i realize they kind of totally hated each other at that point, and were more happy working separately than together in a lot of ways, and still i think songs like "two of us," "i've got a feeling" and "one after 909" have this really great group-in-a-garage warmth to them.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 23:29 (ten years ago) link
yeah, i agree that you can definitely hear it in those performances at least -- they all obv had fun doing the rooftop concert, john is grinning from ear to ear in the footage. the sad thing is they couldn't sustain that camaraderie when they weren't playing.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 23:31 (ten years ago) link
hmm yeah even though I'd rank Abbey Road up there I'd say there's something a little "professional" about it in a way that isn't there on their other albums
― nova, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 23:38 (ten years ago) link
Was about to moan about the number of songs that got zero votes, only to see I’ve done it twice already.
― piscesx, Friday, 17 November 2023 23:32 (seven months ago) link
Third time is the charm
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 November 2023 11:58 (seven months ago) link
Three times!
Got to Get You into My Life 0Good Day Sunshine 0Taxman 0
0__o
― piscesx, Sunday, January 4, 2015
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scenes.
― piscesx, Monday, October 31, 2016
Jeez come on guys
Got to Get You into My Life 0I Want to Tell You 0Good Day Sunshine 0Taxman 0
― piscesx, Monday, July 25, 2022
― Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 18 November 2023 18:34 (seven months ago) link
haha oh man.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 22:07 (six months ago) link
Good Day Sunshine is Paul at his most unbearable. I agree that the other three got robbed though
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 22:31 (six months ago) link
agreed, perhaps my least favorite Beatles songdoes anybody else really really love the “got to get you into my life” demo on anthology?
― brimstead, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 23:18 (six months ago) link
I don't mind "Good Day Sunshine." I'm not a fan of "Taxman." George Harrison grumbling about having to pay taxes drags it down. The Jam did use the bassline and guitar riff to good effect, though.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 23:23 (six months ago) link
quite like Good Day Sunshine, even more so in the "Bad Night Moonlight" version by Peter Serafinowicz where he puts it into a minor key and changes all the lyrics "I need screams / and when the moon is out / I've got something you can scream about"
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 23:40 (six months ago) link
Got To Get You Into My Life is straight up magnificent
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 23:41 (six months ago) link