thread for discussion of guitarists i have only heard of because i read guitar magazines in the late 90s

Gatton was far from unsung in guitar nerd world in the late 80s, but no one outside of that cared much. Dude who knew him and worked on his fender signature guitar straight up told me that the depression/suicide was 100% based on realizing he was never going to escape that level, which is a huge bummer.

― Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:56 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeesh

Yep

That is extremely sad, but it's not exactly surprising that a guitarist's guitarist is never going to go beyond being a guitarist's guitarist, particularly if he plays in styles that are out of step with the pop music of the day. Seems similar to being a jazz musician or something, possible even a little better in that I bet he could play bigger venues than jazzers.

Jeez guys, hate to interrupt this bring-down fest (I finally listened to a Danny Gatton record last year and couldn't latch on to it at all), but thread is seriously missing Guy Mann Dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zEi3yXy_5g

Is Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo from Daft Punk a hat-tip to this guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIhoG6cS-3Y

Blues Saraceno

(later temporarily in Poison)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH4hzTOxJVA

Richie Kotzen

(also temporarily in Poison)

Marty Friedman / Jason Becker

guitar player was the only one of these mags that ever covered anything cool, much to their credit

― call all destroyer, Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:05 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hey now, Guitar magazine covered both REM and U2 when they were largely only listened to by kids who would get their asses kicked by the metalheads and fusion jazzbos who were the primary audiences. They tabbed "Can't Get There From Here" and "Sunday Bloody Sunday" in 1986 and 1987, respectively.

did these dudes all start learning to play the guitar at like four or something

This may be one of my favorite covers. Look at the transcriptions: YES! QUEENSRYCHE! THE WHO! JEFF BECK! The Beach Boys?

http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mCaPYrRogKGLLJe2aqK3zOA.jpg

can't forget michael angelo batio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOjHhJd70f4

don't jazz ppl know joe pass? like, canonically? def a strange venn diagram between respected jazz musicians and guitar mag pillars

here's a full concert with ella fitzgerald (complete with inane+insane youtube commenters):

http://youtu.be/2olBE4C5_Gk

If we're just talking guitar, and not even '90s guitar, I know we've mentioned Paul Gilbert, but Racer X is what made my friend invoke the conflation "guitarded:"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6i6Pbpc0z4

i know extreme had hits, but, nuno bettencourt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioBy875IEwM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd02bE6o2Rs

This dude totally not widely known/mentioned:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq2GqlFmNUk#t=15

(Except where he;s mentioned upthread, sorry)

beautiful shredding

Not 90s, but Guthrie Govan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yPEewaalik

that's pretty great!

guthrie is awesome

I saw him at a club show recently, at the end he asked the audience for a show of hands of who was in a band. Everybody basically.

hhaha

yeah that was good! never heard of that guy.

that al dimeola video is everything the mars volta wished they could be.

jazz fusion sounded so much better in the '70s.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Kissmyaxe.jpg

beautiful shredding sorta nails what i enjoy about this stuff, it's like gorgeous patterns of melodic gleaming shrapnel flying around

i mean, the phrase "beautiful shredding"

Shout out to Steve Kahn (is he too jazz for this thread?), far from a gimmicky guitar mag guy, but his solos tend to really bring that heavy euphoric escalator-to-heaven fusion guitar style

Neil Zaza is p.big w/a few of the Guitar Center / South Korean Catholic CCM crossover ppl I know:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QadSVWXF_ks

Holy crap I had no idea anyone outside Cleveland knew who Neil Zaza was. ZAZA was one of the biggest hair metal bands on the scene in the 80s.

http://melodic-hardrock.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ZAZA_01.jpg

He should start an effects box company.

Zaza's Pedals.

jjjusten will buy

btw. That dude is truly living the life. Buys all those pedals and it's his job.

Mixin' business with lesrher

Leather ahem

I got these stonewashed tight jeans...this black t-shirt

Haha I actually have a neil zaza signature pedal in stock no lie. Purchase had exactly zero to do with association with Neil zaza, it's a repro of a long lost great dod pedal (yeah I know, but srsly) called the juice box.

http://www.mooeraudio.com/EN/news_show.asp?MsgID=66

Posts very much in character yes I know

O_O

for a while guitar player mag was the cool alternative to guitar mag. their johnny marr cover story was formative for me.

― fact checking cuz, Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:48 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i found a ratty old copy of it somewhere when i was a kid, from the mid/late 80s and they actually did a story on the avant garde guitar scene! featured sonic youth, live skill, savage republic, rat at rar r, and bands like that - first exposure to any of that

― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:04 PM (3 days ago)

I might still have this issue. Big story on Sonic Youth, with tunings and tablature, and a big annotated fold-out poster of famous players' guitar picks.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41fJ6z6Zg2L._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Magazine-February-Improvisation-Painted/dp/B00I14TBWK

Zaza's Pedals.
― overwhelmed with sweat (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, May 17, 2014 7:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol

Hmm, I guess the tuning and tab for Teenage Riot would be cool to know.

Guitar (formerly 'For the Practicing Musician') in the 90s did jizz a lot over these dudes (and I remember being all 'uhhh ok' whenever I heard any of it), but tbf they always gave equal credit to up and coming bands that wrote interesting music and weren't really flashy. I remember them giving Crowbar's "Time Heals Nothing" a pretty glowing review.

but then they'd review the latest Toto and whine that in the midst of a glossy pop album that Lukather wasn't lighting up the fretboard more and you're like "...ohhhh welcome back, Guitar".

Hmm, I guess the tuning and tab for Teenage Riot would be cool to know.

one of the first things i did after getting access to 90s Usenet was print out a table of known Sonic Youth guitar tunings. i showed it to a guy i knew who said that SY were "pretentious" for tuning their guitars differently - this guy was a huge Dylan fan as well haha