The Black Keys

they do both suck but one of them can't even suck properly

^^

lmao at "tone attorney type dudes" totally using that one from now on

big come up and thickfreakness were great. all went to shit after that.

I admired-from-a-distance the loose, trashy, swinging quality of Meg White's drumming, but it never lifted off when it needed to (although I'm not a Stripes fan anyway -- White always sounded like he was playing at a style of music, not unlike someone like Wynton Marsalis).

But the Black Keys drummer is just stiff and dull and I'm already sleepy from writing that much about him.

yeah, that's it. the 'looseness' of the Burt's Bees drummer seems to come from stiffness. that's what makes it so bad.

yeah, JiC's post sums up my feelings. it's a "this dude is the heir to jimmy page's Guitar Player market?" feeling. it has nothing to do with my enjoyment of the music. sure, you can define "good guitar playing" however you want, but there are quantitative metrics. and I believe that people mistakenly think that Jack White is excellent within those metrics because he's marketed that way.

― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:27 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hey hey hey btw tone attorney stuff aside I am in NO WAY claiming that JW is on the same planet as Jimmy page as a guitarist, songwriter, producer, anything btw

just saying him and meg were a distinctive thing, and i think he can play...but when i first saw them i kinda got they were going for a look/aesthetic in a real way which is why they turned into stars as opposed to 65 other late 90s estrus records type garage rock/blues bands that were in that world

black keys don't have any aesthetic they aren't about anything except being...well okay i guess these guys are kind of a new band that you could dig if you like classic rock but want a new band to like

kinda like the black crowes w/o the tunes

Feel like it's a testament to how exciting the Black Keys are that this thread has turned into a discussion of whether Jack White is really a good guitar player or not.

lol otm

The other thing they are missing from the Stripes is that Jack is a hotshit guitar player

― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, May 15, 2014 7:05 AM Bookmark

Also that Meg, despite her lack of technique, had a great fucking drum sound

yes also true

I'm currently listening to the dan auerbach solo record in order to unpack just how much of this is the drums

also the idea that jack white's music would be better with a "better" drummer than meg seems to be refuted by...all the other music jack white has made

lol otm

yeah, that's basically where i'm at with this solo record experiment as well. but i do think that white reserves a certain writing and production voice for white stripes songs. so it might be an unfair if still pretty funny point.

the white stripes are super pretentious and the black keys are not and that's why the white stripes are way better

yup

auerbach is like nu-clapton

basing that entirely on the beard and the dead eyes

not looking forward to his "Tears In Heaven"...

...after he murders Jack White's child

johnny winter and eric clapton vs jack white and dan auerbach

mostly i feel relief that the whole "guitar hero" meme doesn't have nearly as much currency these days than it used to.

think it has more currency than ever. there just aren't many new guitar gyros.

really? on what basis would you say that?

When a crowd hears a good solo, they cheer?

Brad Paisley a current guitar hero. St
Vincent too.

When a crowd hears a good solo, they cheer?

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, May 15, 2014 4:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

now that's just uncivilized

probably smash hit video game Guitar Hero

bloodthirsty hordes always cheer when a good solo is executed

they hang out at guitar center every weekend, sipping their vitamin spiked mondos while arguing the superiority of the phrygian and mixolydian modes

richard bishop is kind of a marginal gtr hero

The mags are trying to make Gary Clark Jr. happen, although bets are hedged on his album by emphasizing him as a neo soul/lite hip hop dude as much as being a guitar god.

this stuff works retroactively. If a band with guitars gets popular and embraces any part of the identifiable canonical rock gtr lineage, then they get the "guitar god" treatment. Cases in point: neither Cobain nor White were not particularly showy about their chops on their career-defining stuff, but as they became gargantuan and their connections to previous hard rock stuff became more apparent, then they were in.

someone like Greenwood, however, is always going to be less idolized cuz his stylistic reference points are largely outside the canon of Hendrix/Page/Van Halen whatever

and anyway who cares what Guitar Player and their readers think, really

i have a Guitar Player-like Gods of Guitar book and Jonny Greenwood is in it along with tom verlaine and andy summers

kurt cobain is not

is rivers cuomo a guitar god?

god i fucking hope not

http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mKK44eS2faDav6Q9ia6fZ1A.jpg

holding that guitar don't make you eddie

The mags are trying to make Gary Clark Jr. happen, although bets are hedged on his album by emphasizing him as a neo soul/lite hip hop dude as much as being a guitar god.

Really? Dude just sounds like Robin Trower to me.

i guess the "guitar hero" concept has taken a different direction since i last checked in, since kurt cobain is far, far from a "guitar hero" in the steve vai/jimmy page/eric clapton/etc. sense

Marnie Stern is a guitar hero.

adrian belew is a guitar hero

is there a thread for ppl that only readers of guitar magazines like? like a place where we can talk about joe satriani?

please make one! would love to talk some Silver Surfer!

is there a thread for ppl that only readers of guitar magazines like? like a place where we can talk about joe satriani?

― call all destroyer, Thursday, May 15, 2014 6:59 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://stores.guitarcenter.com/

be sure to pick up some of these on the way

thread for discussion of guitarists i have only heard of because i read guitar magazines in the late 90s

hahahaha. fantastic title and premise.