A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

^ should be the title if we do a Styx listening thread

Lotta similarities between Joel and DeYoung. They're both show-tuney overenunciators who keep trying (and failing, but, to their credit, hilariously) to "prove" that they "can" "rock."

Thin ice, Tarfumes. Billy Joel never said that he was the Brian WIlson of Billy Joel, for example.

so when is someone gonna start this fire?

always been burning, afaic

well, yeah. but still...

So no Rod then...

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1424995.ece/alternates/s615/Rod-Stewart.jpg

You guys remember this classic Don response:

Thanks for the tutorial and, no, you're not the first to bring this to my attention -- and you're not the first to completely misinterpret the lyric and miss the metaphor. Believe me, I've consumed enough alcoholic beverages in my time to know how they are made and what the proper nomenclature is. But that line in the song has little or nothing to do with alcoholic beverages. It's a sociopolitical statement. My only regret would be having to explain it in detail to you, which would defeat the purpose of using literary devices in songwriting and lower the discussion to some silly and irrelevant argument about chemical processes.

The folks at Eagles Online Central disagree with our conclusions:

Don has always been very eloquent with what he says. He rarely made a statement that wasn't poignant, which is very detailed in the song writing. He wanted to be a journalism major, he's a smart dude! Not to mention pretty damn cute.

and

These are killing me, Don showed him. Don doesn't have much patience with fools, good for him.

Well,

Speaking of the 'toilet roll incident', there's a programme here where two hoteliers go around other establishments giving tips on how to improve and increase their market and the first thing one guy does is go into each ensuite to see if the toilet roll is around the right way, a la Don!!

Also, I read somewhere that according to feng shui the toilet roll should be coming towards you to create 'harmony' in your bathroom and increase your finances - the other way means money rolling out of your purse! As Don doesn't seem to be doing too badly in the old finance department, maybe it works?

Alright, EOC has my attention. What toilet roll incident?

from: http://dirtylaundryblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/we-have-excerpt.html

In between takes, Don had become a prolific letter-writer. In one he composed to the studio maid, he insisted that the floral toilet paper be put on the roll the other way around so it rolled off the top, pointing out that if it was meant to come off the bottom, the little pink flowers would have been printed on the undersides of the sheets. Where you would see them.

In the industry, to be the receiver of a "Henley" (one of those letters) is to be considered a part of a special club. Some insiders have framed their "Henley"s and hang them in their offices or lounges.

so what else is meant to come off Don's bottom

In the wild: "Dirty Laundry" on the muzak at Northern Tool + Equipment.

GLENN: Yup, Don's the tool and I'm the equipment!

DON: Well, yeah.

Some insiders have framed their "Henley"s and hang them in their offices or lounges.

Facing which direction?

Found this while looking for something else: Dennis Miller introducing the Donster & "Dirty Laundry" at the first Clinton inaugural ball.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NmYpJ2R9Ps

90s singularity

does the guitar lick in this randy newman cover from the doobie brothers' 1971 debut remind you of something as much as it reminds me of something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZvhrQlFgUo

Yes. Yes it does.

wow. but who was the thief? Felder or Walsh?

I believe the movie said it was riff walsh would warm up to before shows.

Walsh got his.

Compare this (1969) at :20 http://youtu.be/Jpovr2IQpjc
to this (1971) http://youtu.be/K3OurDXdlic

In the (very) wild: http://blogs.houstonpress.com/artattack/2014/05/stacey_keith_stripper_memoir.php

Choice bit:

Was Ms. Keith not so smart -- her IQ is around 140, and it shows in conversation and in her writing -- her book might just be a tawdry tale that includes an impromptu Malibu blowjob with Don Henley, surreal photo shoots with Hollywood creeps like Russ Meyer, and a near-rape by a construction crew.

you can read some of the book in preview, including poor Ms. Keith's initial encounter with the Donster:

"He jogged towards me, said hi, then stopped to catch his breath, which was an obvious ploy...He wasn't in the greatest shape and didn't seem to spend a whole lot of time in the sun. He had a generic face...

'Are you training for a marathon?'I asked, coy but ready to bolt if he said something weird.

'Bad knees," he said. Maybe to prove his point, he braced his hands on them and grinned up at me. 'Do you know who I am?'

'No.'

'I'm Don Henley."

In the wild: "The Long Run" @ Lowe's Home Improvement

Sounds like a 'nice little saturday'

2nd part of the doc on BBC4 again now

OH MAN.

Don Henley is having a "Hey kids, get off my lawn!" moment. In a new interview, the Eagles frontman tweaks R&B singer Frank Ocean and indie band Okkervil River for using master tracks or covering two of his songs in recent years without permission.

Henley's issue with Ocean stems from the rising star's sampling of the entire "Hotel California" track, minus vocals, for his song "American Wedding." Ocean wrote new lyrics for the song, which was never released commercially but was included on a free mixtape. Henley was not impressed, and seemed shocked that Ocean "doesn't seem to understand" copyright laws in the United States.

"Anyone who knows anything should know you cannot take a master track of a recording and write another song over the top of it," Henley told the Daily Telegraph in Australia. "You just can't do that. You can call it a tribute or whatever you want to call it, but it's against the law. That's a problem with some of the younger generation, they don't understand the concept of intellectual property and copyright."

Henley said when he caught wind of the track's existence, he got his lawyers involved, and that Ocean was "quite arrogant about" the situation. The classic rocker said Ocean wouldn't listen to reason, so he threatened legal action. "American Wedding"

"He was clearly in the wrong," Henley said. "I wouldn't dream of doing something like that. What kind of ego is that? I don't understand it."

Previously, Ocean has jabbed that Henley was "intimidated by my rendition" of the song and said that he failed to understand what the fuss was about, given that no money was being made. "Isn't this guy rich as fuck?" he wrote on Tumblr. "Why sue the new guy?

"What kind of ego is that? I don't understand it."

I think you do, Don

GLENN: Remember when we diddled that brunette from Stockton? Goddamn sure she didn't ask for permission!

DON: Well, yeah.

what did okkerkil river do?

i love that frank ocean tune, and i think the "isn't this guy rich as fuck?" defense is legally sound and should be used by actual lawyers.

What's Henley care? Felder wrote the music. Boy of Summer mad he got edited out?

Song has his only decent drumroll in the whole Eagles catalog, he really should be paid.

Don't look back you can never look back

GLENN: but sometimes it's good to be looking AT her back, if you know what i mean.

DON: well, yeah.

omg I just saw this thread had new answers and opened it this minute and HC is playing on a co-worker's radio right now! (The dual-guitar bit, the only bit I'm guaranteed to hear over general office-noise)

bee-dee-doo bee-dee-doo bee-dee-doo bee-dee-doo bee-dee-doo
bee-dee-doo bee-dee-doo bee-dee-DOO

sue me, Don

The Original Interview

re: Okkervil River

Henley also nixed a remake of his solo hit The End of the Innocence by US band Okkervil River, who had planned to release it online for free.

Okkervil River singer Will Sheff told The Music they “sincerely” loved the song and said Henley was an “old-fashioned guy who doesn’t understand...it’s not like I was making money, I figure that’s all he f---ing cares about.

“It’s not like I was making money off it, but he still made me take it down.”

Henley said he was more concerned by the fact they altered his original lyrics.

“They don’t understand the law either,” Henley said. ``You can’t re-write the lyrics to somebody else’s songs and record it and put it on the internet. I’m sorry, but it wasn’t an improvement. We were not impressed. So we simply had our legal team tell them to take it down and they got all huffy about it.

``It’s a different mindset. I don’t know how they’d react if I took one of their songs and re-wrote the lyrics and recorded it, I don’t know if they’d like that. Maybe they wouldn’t care but I care. We work really really hard on our material. We spend months writing it and years recording it. You don’t go into a museum and paint a moustache on somebody else’s painting. Nobody would think of doing that.”

Henley said he did not see either remake as a tribute “If I were going to do something like that (as a tribute ) I’d get permission first. If you respect somebody you ask their permission to diddle around with their work. You don’t just go and do it.”

“It’s not like I was making money off it, but he still made me take it down.”

http://netdna.tvovermind.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Archer-GIFs-10.gif

We work really really hard on our material. We spend months writing it and years recording it. You don’t go into a museum and paint a moustache on somebody else’s painting. Nobody would think of doing that.”

O RLY?

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/10/15/1350326616080/Barbican-salutes-Marcel-D-008.jpg

For those of you who change lyrics live, Don's got words for you!

they're like his children, man! you wouldn't paint a mustache on somebody's kid WOULD YOU?

I met a Frenchman in a field last night
He was out there with an easel, painting carnival light
He said, "I used to paint the princess; I used to paint the frogs
Now I paint moustaches on dangerous dogs"
He said, "Sometimes it's a country; sometimes it's a girl
You know, everybody's got to have a purpose in this world
You Yankees are so silly about matters of the heart
Don't you know that women are the only works of art

You're drivin' with your eyes closed
You're drivin' with your eyes closed
You're drivin' with your eyes closed
You're gonna hit somethin'
But that's the way it goes"

Come guys were born to Rimbaud
Some guys breathe Baudelaire
Come guys just got to go and put their rockets everywhere
You can breed 'em by the thousands; you can trick and you can train
Just look at all those poor dogs that are dragged down by the Seine
How many arrows must I shoot into the blue?
Ah, you little maniac, I'm crazy over you
Before The Death of Lovers and The Punishment of Pride
Let's go scrape across the terrazzo
It's just too hot outside

"You're drivin' with your eyes closed
You're drivin' with your eyes closed
You're drivin' with your eyes closed
You're gonna hit somethin'
But that's the way it goes

Talk talk, talk and talk
Talk talk, sweet talk
Talk talk, tough talk
Talk talk, dirty talk
Talk talk, walk and talk
Talk talk, big talk
Talk talk, baby talk
Kiss kiss kiss

Talk talk, talk and talk
Talk talk, smooth talk
Talk talk, body talk
Talk talk, back talk
Talk talk, small talk
Talk talk, baby talk
Talk talk, peace talk
Talk talk, bullshit

http://vimeo.com/75138530

Out on the road today, I saw a Black Flag sticker on a Cadillac.

Don didn't write that song so he doesn't care if you fuck it up

Don Henley, criticizing other people's lyrics

he's like a baker that hates sandwiches

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_process

More hilarity:

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/the-eagles-to-tour-australia-but-want-fans-to-put-away-their-phones/story-e6frfn29-1226926087860

``Videoing a concert with a phone is a violation of our copyright,” he said. “Google own You Tube. They don’t need any more free content. We don’t want our shows posted on You Tube. It spoils it for people who are going to come to a show in the future. We’d like for them to experience it for the first time in the audience rather than experience it on a crappy video that sounds horrible. But I don’t think there’s any going back now. People feel so entitled to being able to use their gadgets and post things on the web. I’m from a different generation, I don’t understand it, it’s not a very pure experience. It takes away from the immediacy of the live performance. If we’re just going to watch TV we can stay home and do that.”

...

As well as being anti-phone, the Eagles are asking fans to sit down during the show, which is heavy on their trademark ballads.
``It’s always been puzzling to us that there’s always three or four people in an audience of several thousand who think they have to stand up for the entire show,” Henley said. ``They seem to be completely oblivious to the fact there’s thousands of people behind them who are not standing up because it’s a ballad for Christ’s sake! We get to a point in our show when it’s quite obvious it’s time to stand up and we give the audience a signal. But people who start standing up in the beginning when we’re doing ballads are a great annoyance to us and to the people behind them. We have our security people gently tell them to sit down. You pay for your seat, sit in it.”

We get to a point in our show when it’s quite obvious it’s time to stand up and we give the audience a signal