kiss would be kinda good too. like the eagles, they're polarizing, they're driven by two colorful egomaniacs, they have issues with ex-band-members, they're not particularly well-liked by dave marsh, and have a pretty high little-known-album-tracks-to-hits ratio.
come to think of it, billy joel fits that description too, except for the two colorful egomaniacs part -- he isn't two, and he isn't all that colorful -- and his unknowns-to-hits ratio is probably lower.
but either would make a nice east coast counterpoint to the west coasters who started this.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 23:55 (twelve years ago)
Kiss would be fun! That would have the (duuuuubious) benefit of a lot of excruciating songs.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 00:30 (twelve years ago)
billy joel fits that description too, except for the two colorful egomaniacs part -- he isn't two, and he isn't all that colorfu
sez you
http://makeagif.com/media/5-13-2014/nUYiIH.gif
― pplains, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 02:17 (twelve years ago)
omg
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 03:04 (twelve years ago)
pplains otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 03:11 (twelve years ago)
Kiss has the perfect band dynamics and personalities, but unlike the Eagles where there were a handful of undeniably great tracks to look forward to mixed in with the crud, just about every Kiss song in depressingly mediocre or worse.
Joel would work - the music is OTM for this exercise, the lyrics will give us plenty to discuss, but it must include every studio track including Hassles (only 2 albums & a few singles) and Attila.
― Lee626, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 03:40 (twelve years ago)
garage rock starts of later, um, titans are always fun and i've always been curious about what attila actually sounded like (w/o being curious enough to actually seek it out). i was wondering if by the time we got to 'piano man' we'd actually welcome it, thinking that it might've taken awhile for joel to find his voice since even 'piano man' doesn't seem there yet (easily one of my most hated dylan pastiches), but nope - first song, first 'billy joel' album is 'she's got a way', about as billy joel a song as you can get (though the hit version is actually a live version from many years later, similar to mccartney and 'maybe i'm amazed')(and you know joel would welcome that comparison).
― balls, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 04:18 (twelve years ago)
Attila is just your basic 1970 metal band, but without guitars or bass
― Lee626, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 04:47 (twelve years ago)
haha. one thing billy has going for him that neither kiss nor the eagles have is a pretty good catalog of videos. so there's that to talk about too, once we hit the 1980s.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 04:54 (twelve years ago)
Rod gots videos.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 05:01 (twelve years ago)
being that they were from outside Chicago, "corn-fed" doesn't really do it.
That it doesn't, particularly because they were from inside Chicago (the Roseland neighborhood on the south side). Pierogi-fed, or kielbasa-fed, maybe.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 13:27 (twelve years ago)
Eagles in the wild: "Love Will Keep Us Alive" at Walgreens this morning. A woman collapsed in the perfume aisle.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 13:34 (twelve years ago)
Lot of corn in Illinois, not sure where that's going.
― pplains, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 13:50 (twelve years ago)
man pierogies are delicious though
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:04 (twelve years ago)
The .gif ppplains posted solidified my support for a Joel thread.
― good and relaxing like akon dont matter (intheblanks), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:36 (twelve years ago)
me too
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:49 (twelve years ago)
yeah, the possibility of more
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:55 (twelve years ago)
and it captured the spirit of this thread on some level I can't quite explain.
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 16:03 (twelve years ago)
I would love to do Styx because I dislike them intensely but there are some good Tommy Shaw songs that were totally ruined by the taint of Dennis DeYoung, they would be fun to dissect.
― Sandy, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 16:21 (twelve years ago)
But yeah, I can sense the beauty of doing Billy Joel, too.Count me in for anything. I so wish I had been in on this Eagles extravaganza.
― Sandy, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 16:26 (twelve years ago)
the taint of Dennis DeYoung
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 16:35 (twelve years ago)
^ should be the title if we do a Styx listening thread
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 16:46 (twelve years ago)
Lotta similarities between Joel and DeYoung. They're both show-tuney overenunciators who keep trying (and failing, but, to their credit, hilariously) to "prove" that they "can" "rock."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 16:48 (twelve years ago)
Thin ice, Tarfumes. Billy Joel never said that he was the Brian WIlson of Billy Joel, for example.
― pplains, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 18:39 (twelve years ago)
so when is someone gonna start this fire?
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 19 May 2014 16:41 (twelve years ago)
always been burning, afaic
― pplains, Monday, 19 May 2014 17:52 (twelve years ago)
well, yeah. but still...
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 19 May 2014 17:56 (twelve years ago)
So no Rod then...
http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1424995.ece/alternates/s615/Rod-Stewart.jpg
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 19 May 2014 19:38 (twelve years ago)
You guys remember this classic Don response:
Thanks for the tutorial and, no, you're not the first to bring this to my attention -- and you're not the first to completely misinterpret the lyric and miss the metaphor. Believe me, I've consumed enough alcoholic beverages in my time to know how they are made and what the proper nomenclature is. But that line in the song has little or nothing to do with alcoholic beverages. It's a sociopolitical statement. My only regret would be having to explain it in detail to you, which would defeat the purpose of using literary devices in songwriting and lower the discussion to some silly and irrelevant argument about chemical processes.
The folks at Eagles Online Central disagree with our conclusions:
Don has always been very eloquent with what he says. He rarely made a statement that wasn't poignant, which is very detailed in the song writing. He wanted to be a journalism major, he's a smart dude! Not to mention pretty damn cute.
and
These are killing me, Don showed him. Don doesn't have much patience with fools, good for him.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 14:53 (twelve years ago)
Well,
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 16:11 (twelve years ago)
Speaking of the 'toilet roll incident', there's a programme here where two hoteliers go around other establishments giving tips on how to improve and increase their market and the first thing one guy does is go into each ensuite to see if the toilet roll is around the right way, a la Don!!
Also, I read somewhere that according to feng shui the toilet roll should be coming towards you to create 'harmony' in your bathroom and increase your finances - the other way means money rolling out of your purse! As Don doesn't seem to be doing too badly in the old finance department, maybe it works?
Alright, EOC has my attention. What toilet roll incident?
― pplains, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 16:59 (twelve years ago)
from: http://dirtylaundryblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/we-have-excerpt.html
In between takes, Don had become a prolific letter-writer. In one he composed to the studio maid, he insisted that the floral toilet paper be put on the roll the other way around so it rolled off the top, pointing out that if it was meant to come off the bottom, the little pink flowers would have been printed on the undersides of the sheets. Where you would see them.
In the industry, to be the receiver of a "Henley" (one of those letters) is to be considered a part of a special club. Some insiders have framed their "Henley"s and hang them in their offices or lounges.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 18:53 (twelve years ago)
so what else is meant to come off Don's bottom
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 19:29 (twelve years ago)
In the wild: "Dirty Laundry" on the muzak at Northern Tool + Equipment.
GLENN: Yup, Don's the tool and I'm the equipment!
DON: Well, yeah.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:22 (twelve years ago)
Some insiders have framed their "Henley"s and hang them in their offices or lounges.
Facing which direction?
― pplains, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 01:11 (twelve years ago)
Found this while looking for something else: Dennis Miller introducing the Donster & "Dirty Laundry" at the first Clinton inaugural ball.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NmYpJ2R9Ps
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 05:26 (twelve years ago)
90s singularity
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:38 (twelve years ago)
does the guitar lick in this randy newman cover from the doobie brothers' 1971 debut remind you of something as much as it reminds me of something?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZvhrQlFgUo
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 30 May 2014 05:42 (twelve years ago)
Yes. Yes it does.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 May 2014 05:53 (twelve years ago)
wow. but who was the thief? Felder or Walsh?
― col, Friday, 30 May 2014 11:03 (twelve years ago)
I believe the movie said it was riff walsh would warm up to before shows.
― jbn, Friday, 30 May 2014 11:23 (twelve years ago)
Walsh got his.
Compare this (1969) at :20 http://youtu.be/Jpovr2IQpjcto this (1971) http://youtu.be/K3OurDXdlic
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 May 2014 14:26 (twelve years ago)
In the (very) wild: http://blogs.houstonpress.com/artattack/2014/05/stacey_keith_stripper_memoir.php
Choice bit:
Was Ms. Keith not so smart -- her IQ is around 140, and it shows in conversation and in her writing -- her book might just be a tawdry tale that includes an impromptu Malibu blowjob with Don Henley, surreal photo shoots with Hollywood creeps like Russ Meyer, and a near-rape by a construction crew.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 31 May 2014 03:57 (twelve years ago)
you can read some of the book in preview, including poor Ms. Keith's initial encounter with the Donster:
"He jogged towards me, said hi, then stopped to catch his breath, which was an obvious ploy...He wasn't in the greatest shape and didn't seem to spend a whole lot of time in the sun. He had a generic face...
'Are you training for a marathon?'I asked, coy but ready to bolt if he said something weird.
'Bad knees," he said. Maybe to prove his point, he braced his hands on them and grinned up at me. 'Do you know who I am?'
'No.'
'I'm Don Henley."
― col, Saturday, 31 May 2014 14:54 (twelve years ago)
In the wild: "The Long Run" @ Lowe's Home Improvement
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 31 May 2014 21:16 (twelve years ago)
Sounds like a 'nice little saturday'
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 31 May 2014 23:00 (twelve years ago)
2nd part of the doc on BBC4 again now
― Master of Treacle, Saturday, 31 May 2014 23:46 (twelve years ago)
OH MAN.
Don Henley is having a "Hey kids, get off my lawn!" moment. In a new interview, the Eagles frontman tweaks R&B singer Frank Ocean and indie band Okkervil River for using master tracks or covering two of his songs in recent years without permission.
Henley's issue with Ocean stems from the rising star's sampling of the entire "Hotel California" track, minus vocals, for his song "American Wedding." Ocean wrote new lyrics for the song, which was never released commercially but was included on a free mixtape. Henley was not impressed, and seemed shocked that Ocean "doesn't seem to understand" copyright laws in the United States.
"Anyone who knows anything should know you cannot take a master track of a recording and write another song over the top of it," Henley told the Daily Telegraph in Australia. "You just can't do that. You can call it a tribute or whatever you want to call it, but it's against the law. That's a problem with some of the younger generation, they don't understand the concept of intellectual property and copyright."
Henley said when he caught wind of the track's existence, he got his lawyers involved, and that Ocean was "quite arrogant about" the situation. The classic rocker said Ocean wouldn't listen to reason, so he threatened legal action. "American Wedding"
"He was clearly in the wrong," Henley said. "I wouldn't dream of doing something like that. What kind of ego is that? I don't understand it."
Previously, Ocean has jabbed that Henley was "intimidated by my rendition" of the song and said that he failed to understand what the fuss was about, given that no money was being made. "Isn't this guy rich as fuck?" he wrote on Tumblr. "Why sue the new guy?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:18 (twelve years ago)
"What kind of ego is that? I don't understand it."
I think you do, Don
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:35 (twelve years ago)
GLENN: Remember when we diddled that brunette from Stockton? Goddamn sure she didn't ask for permission!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:40 (twelve years ago)