Rolling Metal Thread 2014

dude, neanderthal, speaking of dubbing mp3s, did you ever send dubbed cassette tapes to some dude on #mp3death? like celestial seasonings, nokturnal mortum, etc?

alright everyone, homework time - please set a google calendar reminder to bump this thread in 25-30 years to let us know if you think emmure are as cool as priest or just a bunch of dicks

Shouldn't Warrant and Poison et al be as cool as priest or ac/dc by now then using phil's "logic"?

"all shitty music deserves a chance to be good"

dude, neanderthal, speaking of dubbing mp3s, did you ever send dubbed cassette tapes to some dude on #mp3death? like celestial seasonings, nokturnal mortum, etc?

― Spectrum, Friday, May 9, 2014 8:55 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sadly no. I often got banned for getting in arguments w/ Postmortem or the other AOPs about stuff.

when you were Desantnik, did you ever give crap to a guy named Hell_Awaits for liking "crap like Slayer" and talk about how horrible King Diamond was? and praise Shostakovich? I remember this one argument I had vividly and can't remember if that's who it was with lol

Shouldn't Warrant and Poison et al be as cool as priest or ac/dc by now then using phil's "logic"?

That's not the point he's making - he's comparing the notion of parents in the '80s being repulsed by ANY metal in the '80s (from Priest to Warrant to Twisted Sister, whatever) to people today crapping on deathcore because it's music for lunkheads, 'how the hell can kids today listen to that garbage?', etc etc. It's fair to imagine a scenario where today's ostensibly awful stuff might find a place in tomorrow's cultural cannon.

As for the stance itself, if you want to criticise it rather than just dismiss it, I think you'd have to get more specific: parents back then were repulsed by what they didn't understand (and unfortunately had people like Tipper Gore around to explain it to them); I'm not sure there's a similar lack of understanding around deathcore beyond an intense dislike for the music. I mean, people here would still hate it without the misogyny, right?

Canon not cannon, sigh.

the negative reaction to deathcore (as well as many of the 'cores' themselves) is largely because many of these bands merely take the broad strokes of metal ('LOUD, SCREAMED VOCALS', 'CHUGGA CHUGGA BREAKDOWNS', 'ANGRY LYRICS') and creating their music based on those superficial elements alone.

I mean, people said those things about 80s metal in comparison to 70s heavy rock or prog too. (Some people still feel that way about a lot of 80s stuff.) But I don't really think 'this might be canonized in the future' is a very strong reason to not criticize something, especially if it is blatantly misogynist.

I just wish everybody would go back to dutifully worshipping Satan

OTM

Done!

http://www.stereogum.com/1678536/qa-michael-gira-of-swans-on-to-be-kind-proper-crowdfunding-and-the-human-voice/franchises/interview/

sund4r otm of course

will haven has entered the studio... fucking stoked!!!

from the guitar nerd side, enjoying that asshole from Vik guitars get owned for posting a dumb homophobic reaction on facebook to the dude from Cynic coming out, including a couple important in the djent sense endorsers publicly yanking their names from his list

xp to Neanderthal, yes ... yes that was probably me if you're talking about Shostakovitch. and I totally hated King Diamond back then, but Melissa's probably one of my favorite 80s metal albums now, oddly enough.

heres a link to info on the story. what a fucking dolt.

http://www.metalsucks.net/2014/05/13/vik-guitars-founders-homophobic-comments-rile-members-periphery-scar-symmetry/

from the guitar nerd side, enjoying that asshole from Vik guitars get owned for posting a dumb homophobic reaction on facebook to the dude from Cynic coming out, including a couple important in the djent sense endorsers publicly yanking their names from his list

Awesome, glad to hear the endorsers are making him suffer, if even only a little.

every time the metal community openly and generally says go yuck yourself to a homophobe, i get a little more spring in my step. def made some forward progress there, although still miles to go obv

Yeah, long road ahead still, but it's heartening when comment threads like that feature LGBQT supporters vastly outnumbering the homophobes.

Scrolling endlessly for 2014 recs

can't find any

:(

(Not counting Triptykon. Listened to that one. So good)

new Coffinworm album got a couple mentions upthread but no one really said they liked it so let me be the first in thread to say I really like the new Coffinworm album

New Agalloch is awesome. New Floor and Eyehategod albums are very good too

i liked that ok on first listen, haven't really been in the headspace for oppressive blackened sludge noise whatever tho

really the only thing of all i've heard so far this year that has grabbed me for much repeat listening is the coffin dust album.

been enjoying the new autopsy though, imagining chris reifert as the world's best muppet

new swans will once again be of crossover metal interest per uszh

Coffinworm is great! Waiting for my package with the Agalloch to arrive this week.

Floor is really good, but I'm not super blown away by it. Just sounds like Brooks doin' what Brooks does best, a Torche-ier version of Floor.

The Lord Mantis album is really great, though I wish I hadn't read the lyrics.

why? what are the lyrics?

offensive, google it

thanks everyone.

needed some music while i work today

SubRosa and The Atlas Moth coming around on tour with Boris. And they're playing Manhattan, not Brooklyn. I might actually make it to that show. (I'll probably leave early, of course - Boris is pronounced "bore-us" as far as I'm concerned.)

Scrolling endlessly for 2014 recs

can't find any

:(

Behemoth? That's probably second to Triptykon of albums I've heard.

heavy stuff i like that came out this year, in vaguely approximate order of preference, as of now-ish:

Woods of Desolation
Nux Vomica
Alcest (not heavy, but including anyway)
Skull Fist
Thou
Stoneburner
Agalloch
Young Widows
Thantifaxath
Floor
Pontiak
Satan's Satyrs

should probably hear the Triptykon

The Oath, Wounded Kings, Conan. Also check out 11 Paranoias, really cool spacey death metal out of the UK. The new album's very good.

http://ritualproductions.bandcamp.com/album/spectralbeastiaries

Scrolling endlessly for 2014 recs

there really ain't much besides the Autopsy and Nux Vomica so far imo. Oh and the Tuomas Holopainen album which is very much not for everybody. I haven't given the new Epica enough of a chance maybe. Gonna pick up the Triptykon when I get a chance.

I forgot Wounded Kings in my list

i did like the thou a lot, and indian (more respected/feared than liked), but they've been off my system for a while

Oh yeah, Thou is terrific. The Indian was, okay, I guess. I mean, I like how intense it is, but I after playing it a few times I was hoping for a few more shades of tone or mood.

oh of course Gridlink too, so good

same problem here with Indian. i mean they're fucking terrifying, but kinda one note? i dunno, i only listened a couple of times, but felt the same way a few years ago with an earlier album.

Yeah, Indian is good for when you have an unwitting passenger in your car and want to pull your own version of the "You wanna see something really scary?" prologue scene from Twilight Zone: The Movie.

Thantifaxath is streaming in toto: http://darkdescentrecords.bandcamp.com/album/sacred-white-noise

Pyrrhon and Artificial Brain have been doing it for me this year but I still have a Colored Sands hangover.

Howls of Ebb's Vigils of the 3rd Eye is pretty bonkers too. I can't remember if I first saw it mentioned on this board or not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bMoiDFV3TY

Supposedly the new Abigor is coming, or maybe leaked, I can't remember. They're sort of in their own universe now. I'm still trying to figure out of I like their last one from four years ago.

new agalloch is fine once you get past the first two tracks but i think i've hit the limit for the amount of agalloch i need in my life.

Ah, in fact no, Abigor is nowhere near out. They've put up one track: http://luzifer.bandcamp.com/track/abigor-leytmotif-luzifer-first-insight

I'm deliberately avoiding previewing it, as I keep spoiling new releases from my fave bands. I think Mayhem have released four tracks now? I had to stop at the third.

Also, weirdly, count me in that group, which I'd not known had existed til now, of people who listen to Agalloch a lot less after seeing them live. I have no explanation for that.

@call all destroyer

i listened to agalloch's new one today on spotify. i actually really like it. but i'm into acoustic guitars in metal.

@devilock

wait, why after seeing them live? do you seriously not have an explanation? is their show wierd/boring or what?

weird*

I'd love to read everyone's top tens so far this year… for purely selfish reasons… I'm massively behind with listening.

For me it's Coffinworm, Behemoth, Selim Lemouchi, Prizehog, Mastodon, Hell (reissue), Indian, Circle (w. Duff reissue), The Body (w. Haxan Cloak), 11 Paranoias, Merkabah, SunnO))) & Ulver, Bong, Mayhem, Holy Mountain.

That's a top 15 but then I guess it's not all metal.

xpost to, uh, the infinity thingy:

I actually hadn't thought about it re: Agalloch til I saw someone mention it upthread. Not sure if demystification is the right word because neither they nor their music has ever struck me as obscure. I do recall, though, after seeing them, listening to a stream of one of their shows from the same tour on NPR and realizing just how terrible those growled vocals are. That particular mix shot them out in front of everything. Not sure if somehow that was an overall souring factor.

I should add that I was never a massive fan of them in the first place. There's always been a strange "unfinished" quality about their music that prevents me from getting totally immersed (unless I'm drinking, which I'm not doing anymore and for all I know there's a connection there). It never sounds like everything is cohering. I dunno, this is already more than I've thought about Agalloch in years. I mainly went to their show (2011) because it felt like such a rare opportunity.

Pyrrhon and Artificial Brain have been doing it for me this year but I still have a Colored Sands hangover.

Glad to hear you like the Artifical Brain! That's on its way in the same Profound Lore package as the Agalloch, so I'm anxious to hear it. I dig the Pyrrhon for sure.

i thought i would cotton to artificial brain given what i've liked the last couple years, first listen etc but i haven't been able to make any time for it since i got caught up w/ coffin dust

I've just gone through this thread twice looking for that earlier mention of post-live-Agalloch depreciation and have found nothing. Either I'm doing something wrong or I read it on another forum. Or I was, or am, experiencing a hypnagogic fugue.

It was mentioned in the Agalloch thread.