The Flaming Lips...

Wayne Coyne is not someone you look at and think that he is in any way a trustworthy person

^otm

Apparently the dog is a famous Instagram dog whose schtick is to sport items of clothing associated with people or groups the owner respects. Ah so that's alright then...
Too little too late. Wayne acting the innocent over the headdress incident... even if he wasn't aware of the significance, the first thing he should have done after his pal being called out on it was to try and understand why people had a problem with it, not post a photo taunting his critics. Similar pattern to the Erykah Badu spat. She tells him to kiss her glittery ass, he posts a photo of his glittery lips. Real grown up! Yet he talks about young people who don't know any better. FFS, Christina Fallin is 27, not some daft teenager.

Has the band settled on a new drummer?
Well, there's two guys. I think we're going to use two different guys. Who is the guy that plays with Radiohead and Portishead?

oh jeez

"The only reason he knows anything about Native American issues is he's trying to join this group that I think their family is Native American. But I don't even want to speak about the hate, you know. I don't have any hate for him."

"...it just uses up this space that we could be talking bout this cool shit we're doing with Sean Lennon and My Morning Jacket and Miley Cyrus, and I don't want any of that tainted."

Yes, we wouldn't want that.

He knows we struggled with him for years and it didn't occur to us that it seemed that significant

The only world where this makes sense is a world where At War With the Mystics is a better album than Embryonic or The Terror. Fuck this, at least you could try and put on a good face and acknowledge the two albums you made w him were the best you had done in years. But yeah instead of trying to be the bigger man and be positive, this interview is 90% shit talking.

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agreed- if you have to hire 2 drummers to replace your previous one, he was more than a little significant.

Kliph and others were upset that you Instagrammed the photo of your three friends and the dog in headdresses. Do you regret that now?

I regret that some people took it wrong, and yeah. The dog isn't our dog, the dog is a famous Instagram dog that we happened to be in the presence of – Mayor B is an Instagram dog. And he wears everything. He only wears things that obviously his owners must think are cool. One of them is a John Lennon New York shirt with glasses. I don't think Mayor B is saying, "Look how stupid and hateful I am" to John Lennon.

this fucking guy

blaming the dog, classic

I regret that some people took it wrong = yeah you and Rand Paul, dude.

the kicker:

I don't publicly ever say it, but I live in a neighborhood that was predominantly Native American in the late Seventies and Eighties. I haven't done it publicly, but there's cases of me helping Native Americans.

THERE'S CASES.

dogs: fully in control of what they wear

Yep, still sayin', "fuck this guy".

I'm sorry, I have to post this again because lol WOW lol

"I don't even like talking about our ex-drummer," he said, "because it just uses up this space that we could be talking bout this cool shit we're doing with Sean Lennon and My Morning Jacket and Miley [Cyrus], and I don't want any of that tainted."

god that shit sounds so cool

"I would say you shouldn't follow my tweets; you shouldn't even probably want to be a Flaming Lips fan because we don't really have any agenda. We go about doing things through our imagination. And I would say that if we wrongly stepped on anybody's sacredness, then we're sorry about that. That was never our intention."

wtf kind of clause is "if we wrongly stepped on anybody's sacredness"

small detail of the original thing that made me hate wayne even more was fucking over deerhoof to do a song w/ kesha

The dog isn't our dog, the dog is a famous Instagram dog

Like I think I've mentioned before, I wrote this dude off after the bullshit he pulled with the Badu video, and now every new thing he says or tweets just further proves how much of an asshole he really is. Kind of a shame, since the last two Flaming Lips albums were the best they've done since the 90s.

wait what happened with Deerhoof?

Kliph says they were doing a song with Deerhoof for that "& Friends" thing, but it got bumped off the tracklist to make room for the Kesha song.

wayne seems like a real great guy who doesn't hold grudges

can't resist display name

too slow

That dog is a scapegoat

DAMMIT xp

heh, through this shit storm I have been gratified to learn that our beloved Dero wrote last year that he's VERY LET DOWN by the last Flaming Lips album. It seems that dero has not been betrayed by such abject crass commercialism since REM's Monster. They're more like a corporation than a band, you see… (my bad if this covered in one of the many Dero's a hack threads)…

http://www.wbez.org/blogs/jim-derogatis/2013-04/flaming-lips-drop-depressing-and-dismal-dud-106616

when Neil starts talking about The Ship of the Imagination on Cosmos, Wayne Coyne stares blankly, not understanding that it isn't a real ship

Man I just can't understand any Flaming Lips fan that considers Embryonic the start of some kind of decline, considering the terrible shitshow that came before it.

I'll keep the comments loose and ambiguous, but I had a cameraman buddy shooting the Cassavattes' son's last big pic in OK, and Lips dude was in a scene. He told a few stories how this unwashed, leather jeans wearin' fool would constantly show up, days on end, when he had no bidness bein' there, and would proceed to undermine camera techniques 'cause he was a pro that had done a few movies himself. My buddy just wanted to throttle him so badly.

Honestly, I'd choose Kesha over Deerhoof, too.

Taken from a Reddit AMA:

GrimyLittlePimp 3 points 2 days ago
What was it like working with Kliph Scurlock?
And how do you feel about all that... unpleasantness?

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GruffRhysVerified 3 points 2 days ago
Kliph is a genius! He's a great drummer, and the Flaming Lips a great band

I'll go with Gruff's take.

Man I just can't understand any Flaming Lips fan that considers Embryonic the start of some kind of decline, considering the terrible shitshow that came before it.

Most of their fans don't know any of the albums that came out prior to what, The Soft Bulletin? At War with the Mystics is like, they're favorite Flaming Lips record. They're usually 13-17 and also girls. Wayne can be seen posing with them regularly on Instagram...some might even be topless.

Oh yeah well girls what do they know about Flaming Lips albums.

I didn't mean it that way, but reading it back I sound terrible.

The Internet is hard.

Well then, feel free to clarify.

Wayne likes the ladies

that post was actually written by a famous Instagram dog

Wayne panders to teenage girls.

yah

And he seems to be using his art gallery to exploit pretty young girls.

that post was actually written by a famous Instagram dog

lols

What's with all the personal animosity toward Wayne here? I get that he might be an asshole – and he is clearly really, really pissed off in this article.

But unless I'm missing something, right now this seems like a lot of he-said/he said shit for people to be unloading on him the way they are.

idk didn't he just blame a dog for the fact that he was photographed wearing native headgear.

he said/dog said

he said/dog said

idk didn't he just blame a dog for the fact that he was photographed wearing native headgear.

I agree that going to RS is damage control – and poor damage control at that.

But "not a trustworthy person," "exploiting young girls" ... these are kind of serious accusations that seem to go beyond anger with him over this whole—weird—episode.

Again, maybe I'm lacking some important piece of context or evidence, but what makes Wayne such a dick?

I don't really know their music and read that interview because someone mailed me the link asking if i recognized certain behaviour , so I dont have any context or evidence. You say he sounds really pissed off in this article, but does that anger strike you as sincere, as in does he sound personally hurt or wounded by what has happened? To me he reads as someone who believes they are infallible and will not stand for any challenge to their perceived authority

"I regret that some people took it wrong"

by itself this doesnt always mean much, but its often a pretty big red flag for me, and in the context of this interview it says a lot. This is someone who is always right and will do whatever they want with no remorse or 2nd thought, and when they think they are caught out, will issue at best only this kind of non-apology that accepts no wrongdoing on their part

I dont know anything about this other than reading that interview (and havent even read the other guys thing), but that interview reads like the words of an incredibly manipulative person to me, but one that has misjudged how it will look on the page.

Obviously we can only judge for ourselves but i thought based solely on that interview showed a person I would be very wary about having in life. Does it matter, well not really for me, this type of music I never play!

I listened to half of The Terror yesterday. I found it pretty uninspired.

Clearly the ex-drummers fault.