Is Everybody Who Edits the Village Voice Really This Stupid?

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This has become like one of those One Thread Fits All Last Threads Standing from Les Dix-sept Jours de la Nuit

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:28 (twenty-one years ago)

burning the Midnight Oil.

surely one of the most productive things that can be done with a midnight oil record. ;-)

nedateurist (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 08:02 (twenty-one years ago)

he always capitalizes.

Carl Winslow and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 08:24 (twenty-one years ago)

foiled again!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 08:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Better luck next time. And as it is, I did sell off what Midnight Oil I owned years back, so you're onto something.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

reading this thread reminded me of my bus ride home last night:

a blind lady w/cane got on. one aged/disabled row was empty, one was filled by a homeless woman and her garbage-bagged possesions. blind lady insisted on sitting next to her. "Move your shit, bitch! No, I don't want to sit in that seat, I don't like THAT seat. This is for the aged and disabled..."
Suddenly she's standing up and her cane is poised about three inches from the other woman's face. "Don't Be Fooled By The Eyes!"
"Don't YOU be fooled by them eyes, bitch!"
"That's right. You're a bitch but I'm a bigger bitch..."
(inaudible comment from bus driver)
"Go ahead, call the cops! I'm not sitting in that other seat. Don't Be Fooled By The Eyes!"
The cane is hovering, the homeless woman isn't backing down, when a commanding voice issues from the back of the bus.
"SHUT THE FUCK UP, BOT A YAS! I had to work all day, what did you do? We didn't pay two dollars to hear you argue all the way uptown." The ride continued in silence, the two women still sitting next to each other with their heads turned facing the other way.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

This is a really depressing thread: having been an original poster, I've been away from ILM for a year now for various reasons, but I'm dipping my toes back in the water to see if it's warm. On this evidence, not. I like Chuck's style, and Accidental Evolution is by far the best book about music I've ever read. (And not just on the litmus test question 'does it make you want to hear the music being written about' but in terms of being smart and funny and taking a position and doing what I see the job of the critic to be). Which doesn't mean it's not wrong to call him to task on particular comments. But one thing people do seem to have forgotten is that you judge an editor as an editor on the work of their contributors, and on the shape of their beat as a whole. VV music section is the only mainstream press music coverage I read weekly. Yes there is an agenda, yes it fits with what Chuck has written elsewhere, and yes I happen to agree with it, largely. Hurray for me. If you don't, you don't, but this kind of barracking is sad.

alext (alext), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Seriously, anthony, if you are planning to spend a lot of time ride public transportation in Philadelphia, you'd better monitor the current crisis with SEPTA. $3 fares is madness.

I mostly walk. Like scott, I used to walk all over the place, from the so-called Art Museum area to Indian grocery stores in West Philadelphia, etc. I think the whole thing was a mistake though. I wish I'd learned to drive, like normal people. It's ultimately very limiting not to be able to get around that way.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i just realized that chuck is sean salisbury and amateurist is john clayton

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 6 January 2005 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't even know who sean salisbury and john clayton are!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 6 January 2005 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Salisbury
http://www.pinupgolf.com/image/bigsalisbury.jpg

Clayton
http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/columnists/clayton_john_ipr.jpg

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 6 January 2005 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I mostly walk. Like scott, I used to walk all over the place, from the so-called Art Museum area to Indian grocery stores in West Philadelphia, etc. I think the whole thing was a mistake though. I wish I'd learned to drive, like normal people. It's ultimately very limiting not to be able to get around that way.

yeah, and special note to manthony, living as i do about a 20 minute walk from south st (where i work) is kind of limiting. on the other hand, living in williamsburg lite fishtown isn't really near much to talk about, that is, things like groceries and so forth.

but you'd be closer to AKA, which is run by mike hoffman, who used to work at 3rd St. Jazz, a store scott remembers fondly as almost everyone does.

whatever happened to that awesome 4 down segment on espn that had clayton squaring off against salisbury? i mean, his appearance as the shonald was nice, but sean's the espn equivalent of dan dierdorf. i lean more toward schlereth and golic (ex-eagle) for player insights.

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Thursday, 6 January 2005 05:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Philadelphia is weird -- it's a cinch to drive there and no one does it.

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 6 January 2005 06:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to walk all over the place, from the so-called Art Museum
If I were to walk through the Fine Arts Museum in Boston,
First I'd go to the room where they keep the Cezannes

Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 6 January 2005 06:20 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost yall I didn't mean to poke more than gentle fun at that Boomer ady who goes for the gusto via Voice, Mojo, and Pitchfork. I just entioed her cos Manthony wondered if such Boomers be. For my sins, the synaptic clicker on my laptop stopped working, and now I'm back in '95, learning how to use a mouse.Iguess it's not as bad as a thirtysomething driver's test, but still. If it weren't for this(dauntingly) prosthetic vibe, and the fact that she's married, I'd hop on the boat to Kansas and go see her right now.Good night Mrs. Boomer, and respectfully sweet dreamz

don, Thursday, 6 January 2005 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...
omg, all this thread lacks is l0uis j4gger to make it the worst thread evah!

gershy, Thursday, 12 April 2007 07:55 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
The headline for the Voice review of new Patti Smith covers album:

"Cheers (and Tears for Fears) for Patti's Own Biograph"

God, if they can't even get their DYLAN right...

da croupier, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

They think he's a character on 90210.

Not that I'm one to judge...

Nicole, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, they know who he is. Editor Rob Harvilla even complained Bob wasn't pondering mortality enough for his taste these days.

da croupier, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe Rob would prefer Dylan made a really torrid break-up album, like another Greatest Hits, Vol. 2.

da croupier, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

I just needed an opportunity to make a bad joke, sorry.

Nicole, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

haha well, likewise

da croupier, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Oops, I said "?" when I meant "!" somewhere in that spiel. Oh well.

-- chuck, Tuesday, August 5, 2003 1:36 PM (3 years ago)
That's possibly the best thing U ever read on ILM. No scratch that ---- the best thing EVER!

NYCNative, Friday, 27 April 2007 02:19 (nineteen years ago)

five years pass...

love u maura
westhoff, huh?

This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 14 September 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

and now http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/14/village-voice-editors-blogs-that-he-is-quitting/

Mordy, Friday, 14 September 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

Sad re Maura.

also see this:

why is everyone on ilx so betrothed with the village voice?

curmudgeon, Friday, 14 September 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

LA Weekly's music section is the worst

omar little, Friday, 14 September 2012 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

Oddly enough, look what's just come into being:

https://twitter.com/WorstoffBen

Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 September 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

!

omar little, Friday, 14 September 2012 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

Oddly enough, look what's just come into being:

https://twitter.com/WorstoffBen

Whoever created this account is a monster.

controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Friday, 14 September 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

^^^

i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Friday, 14 September 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

omg did you see who is following that account

it's a big list of lols

wtf where's my chapbook (DJP), Friday, 14 September 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

I thought some of those quotes were made up but....

omar little, Friday, 14 September 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

all real, huh?

This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 14 September 2012 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

dunno about all, but i looked up a few of the most egregious, and yeah

i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Friday, 14 September 2012 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

that 20 worst hipster bands thing was some of the most inarticulate music writing I've ever read. That dude is taking over as VV media editor?!?!

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Friday, 14 September 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

that piece, without actually just tossing its cards all on the table face up and being a pure editorial, throws about as much shine at maura as possible :-)

s.clover, Friday, 14 September 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

Westhoff's book on Southern rap is pretty decent, but everything else the guy has ever written is egregious. What the hell's the deal there?

fadanuf4erybody, Friday, 14 September 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

If it's any consolation, this is a good song to sing along with:
Sometimes it gets so hard to care,
It can't be this way everywhere.
I'm gonna let you pass.
And I'll go last.
Time will tell
Just who has fell
And who's been left be-
hi-i-ind,
When you go your way and I go mine.

dow, Friday, 14 September 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

maura got canned for this guy?

tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Friday, 14 September 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

He's overseeing the blogs throughout the chain.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 September 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

chain chain chain

dow, Friday, 14 September 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

What the hell's the deal there?

― fadanuf4erybody, Friday, September 14, 2012 5:03 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark

he does what people ask him to do

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 September 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

i almost feel bad for westhoff. he's being crucified all over the place today dude to forces that are much bigger than him, and idk, he's given a platform to a few very good writers. and he's keeping himself employed. but i'm not sure if i've ever liked his writing and his editorial direction of the LA weekly section was pretty terroristic.

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 September 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

i actually thought maura left of her own accord when i heard this, given the general sort of intransigence and cluelessness that VV media management traffic in, so i'm surprised to read the quote above where she said the decision wasn't hers

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 14 September 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

one thought i had today was whether or not this is going to be the final nail in the coffin of P&J and whether some other site (or people independently) should try and pull a jackin pop 2.0

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 September 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that definitely crossed my mind today

some dude, Friday, 14 September 2012 22:16 (thirteen years ago)

sorry maura, you did a good job

listen to that wu-tang whistle blowin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 September 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)


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