The Flaming Lips...

Good catch , Poo.

At 9:54 p.m., he texted me again pressing the headdress photo issue. In my desire to have this done and over with, I apologized and said I wouldn't do it again. He responded, "… Ha ha… You so full of shit … You're a fucking coward !! Go stick up for your Indian friends if its so important to you !!" It devolved from there, with him later texting, "I think….. I am gonna make it so your 'beliefs' no longer have any association with the Flaming Lips .."

wow if these are really Wayne's texts then eff him

Fuck Wayne Coyne. Let him do his dumbass commercials and racist hubaloo, just gtfo out of my newsfeed.

my favorite part of this was definitely when the 53-year-old man called somebody a "hater" in a text message

~bookmarked for 20 years from now~

What a weird series of stories. Kliph's whole screed. Wayne having a midlife crisis. And this whole shit with the headdress.

Am I just overdosing on Donald Sterling stories? Or does social media seem to have poisoned them all?

Geez.
http://pitchfork.com/news/55124-the-flaming-lips-wayne-coyne-blasts-hateful-pathological-liar-kliph-scurlock/

The fact that he went to RS alone smells of BS. It's one thing for Kliph to call Wayne a horrible person in retrospect, because Wayne is in a position of power and people in that position can acts like asses with impunity. But for Wayne to call Kliph a horrible person? Who they have been struggling with for some time? Bullshit. If that were true, if he's just an ex-drummer who means nothing to him, they would have fired him eons ago. This is total damage control on the part of Wayne. Which he clearly needed to do.

I hope Kliph stole one of those giant bubbles on the way out.

He knows we struggled with him for years and it didn't occur to us that it seemed that significant

The only world where this makes sense is a world where At War With the Mystics is a better album than Embryonic or The Terror. Fuck this, at least you could try and put on a good face and acknowledge the two albums you made w him were the best you had done in years. But yeah instead of trying to be the bigger man and be positive, this interview is 90% shit talking.

God, this interview is just.... the answer to every question always ends with 2-3 sentences of him just bashing their old drummer. Ugh

Well, this bit:

I had a lot of friends there. I thought [Pink Pony] making fun of the protestors seemed stupid. I thought their music was stupid. I thought their attitude was wrong. And I just thought, "Why don't you just go out there and play your music, tell them you're sorry and play some cool music, and that would be what the festival is about?" And Pink Pony handled it badly. I agree with all that.

But she's still my friend who I'm not going to throw away. I'm not going to jump on and say, "Well, now that I realize that you handle social media badly, you can't be my friend." She's still my friend. She's young. And I think she's very sorry that it all happened, and that whatever she said exploded into this thing. I think there's a lot of regret. I left because I just didn't think it was very good. But then to hear that they were making fun of people, and people probably got too drunk, I thought it was bad.

But when Kliph apparently handles social media badly, out he goes.

He's not a 27 year old young girl..

RMDE. Wayne seems to have learned a lot from Amanda Palmer.

So the Native American protestors were upset that she was bad at using social media?

Didn't he post a pic of himself and his dog or something with headdresses?

Anyway, Wayne Coyne is not someone you look at and think that he is in any way a trustworthy person

Wayne Coyne is not someone you look at and think that he is in any way a trustworthy person

^otm

Apparently the dog is a famous Instagram dog whose schtick is to sport items of clothing associated with people or groups the owner respects. Ah so that's alright then...
Too little too late. Wayne acting the innocent over the headdress incident... even if he wasn't aware of the significance, the first thing he should have done after his pal being called out on it was to try and understand why people had a problem with it, not post a photo taunting his critics. Similar pattern to the Erykah Badu spat. She tells him to kiss her glittery ass, he posts a photo of his glittery lips. Real grown up! Yet he talks about young people who don't know any better. FFS, Christina Fallin is 27, not some daft teenager.

Has the band settled on a new drummer?
Well, there's two guys. I think we're going to use two different guys. Who is the guy that plays with Radiohead and Portishead?

oh jeez

"The only reason he knows anything about Native American issues is he's trying to join this group that I think their family is Native American. But I don't even want to speak about the hate, you know. I don't have any hate for him."

"...it just uses up this space that we could be talking bout this cool shit we're doing with Sean Lennon and My Morning Jacket and Miley Cyrus, and I don't want any of that tainted."

Yes, we wouldn't want that.

He knows we struggled with him for years and it didn't occur to us that it seemed that significant

The only world where this makes sense is a world where At War With the Mystics is a better album than Embryonic or The Terror. Fuck this, at least you could try and put on a good face and acknowledge the two albums you made w him were the best you had done in years. But yeah instead of trying to be the bigger man and be positive, this interview is 90% shit talking.

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, May 9, 2014 8:35 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

agreed- if you have to hire 2 drummers to replace your previous one, he was more than a little significant.

Kliph and others were upset that you Instagrammed the photo of your three friends and the dog in headdresses. Do you regret that now?

I regret that some people took it wrong, and yeah. The dog isn't our dog, the dog is a famous Instagram dog that we happened to be in the presence of – Mayor B is an Instagram dog. And he wears everything. He only wears things that obviously his owners must think are cool. One of them is a John Lennon New York shirt with glasses. I don't think Mayor B is saying, "Look how stupid and hateful I am" to John Lennon.

this fucking guy

blaming the dog, classic

I regret that some people took it wrong = yeah you and Rand Paul, dude.

the kicker:

I don't publicly ever say it, but I live in a neighborhood that was predominantly Native American in the late Seventies and Eighties. I haven't done it publicly, but there's cases of me helping Native Americans.

THERE'S CASES.

dogs: fully in control of what they wear

Yep, still sayin', "fuck this guy".

I'm sorry, I have to post this again because lol WOW lol

"I don't even like talking about our ex-drummer," he said, "because it just uses up this space that we could be talking bout this cool shit we're doing with Sean Lennon and My Morning Jacket and Miley [Cyrus], and I don't want any of that tainted."

god that shit sounds so cool

"I would say you shouldn't follow my tweets; you shouldn't even probably want to be a Flaming Lips fan because we don't really have any agenda. We go about doing things through our imagination. And I would say that if we wrongly stepped on anybody's sacredness, then we're sorry about that. That was never our intention."

wtf kind of clause is "if we wrongly stepped on anybody's sacredness"

small detail of the original thing that made me hate wayne even more was fucking over deerhoof to do a song w/ kesha

The dog isn't our dog, the dog is a famous Instagram dog

Like I think I've mentioned before, I wrote this dude off after the bullshit he pulled with the Badu video, and now every new thing he says or tweets just further proves how much of an asshole he really is. Kind of a shame, since the last two Flaming Lips albums were the best they've done since the 90s.

wait what happened with Deerhoof?

Kliph says they were doing a song with Deerhoof for that "& Friends" thing, but it got bumped off the tracklist to make room for the Kesha song.

wayne seems like a real great guy who doesn't hold grudges

can't resist display name

too slow

That dog is a scapegoat

DAMMIT xp

heh, through this shit storm I have been gratified to learn that our beloved Dero wrote last year that he's VERY LET DOWN by the last Flaming Lips album. It seems that dero has not been betrayed by such abject crass commercialism since REM's Monster. They're more like a corporation than a band, you see… (my bad if this covered in one of the many Dero's a hack threads)…

http://www.wbez.org/blogs/jim-derogatis/2013-04/flaming-lips-drop-depressing-and-dismal-dud-106616

when Neil starts talking about The Ship of the Imagination on Cosmos, Wayne Coyne stares blankly, not understanding that it isn't a real ship

Man I just can't understand any Flaming Lips fan that considers Embryonic the start of some kind of decline, considering the terrible shitshow that came before it.

I'll keep the comments loose and ambiguous, but I had a cameraman buddy shooting the Cassavattes' son's last big pic in OK, and Lips dude was in a scene. He told a few stories how this unwashed, leather jeans wearin' fool would constantly show up, days on end, when he had no bidness bein' there, and would proceed to undermine camera techniques 'cause he was a pro that had done a few movies himself. My buddy just wanted to throttle him so badly.

Honestly, I'd choose Kesha over Deerhoof, too.

Taken from a Reddit AMA:

GrimyLittlePimp 3 points 2 days ago
What was it like working with Kliph Scurlock?
And how do you feel about all that... unpleasantness?

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GruffRhysVerified 3 points 2 days ago
Kliph is a genius! He's a great drummer, and the Flaming Lips a great band

I'll go with Gruff's take.

Man I just can't understand any Flaming Lips fan that considers Embryonic the start of some kind of decline, considering the terrible shitshow that came before it.

Most of their fans don't know any of the albums that came out prior to what, The Soft Bulletin? At War with the Mystics is like, they're favorite Flaming Lips record. They're usually 13-17 and also girls. Wayne can be seen posing with them regularly on Instagram...some might even be topless.