am i making this thread unreadable? i keep eating cookie dough and hitting refresh on this video on youtube.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:45 (twelve years ago)
i have to go to dinner, damn!
― goole, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:48 (twelve years ago)
most oooh moment is putting "since then ain't been a lot going on" over the obamas.
― goole, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:49 (twelve years ago)
ENOUGH PAIN CAN MAKE A WHOLE RACE BITTER
for real, though, this line makes me think about how while i was teaching a unit on the narrative of the life of fred douglass, one of my students pulled me aside and whispered (because i had a white paraeducator in the room) i can't read stuff like this; it makes me hate white people. and i was just like, i know. and could not think of a damn thing else to say. teaching american lit to black kids feels like aggression sometimes. for all i know, they'll be like do we have to talk about race again??? tomorrow.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:53 (twelve years ago)
i'm not really sure what we're all s'ing our h's at, "classism is the new racism" is maybe not the best phraseology but it's not like dream is denying the continued presence/effects of racism in this country -- quite the opposite, in fact. i suppose recognizing linked struggles has fallen out of fashion lately but overall i thought the message was pretty coherent -- the basic idea is that the rulers oppress us in ways less "obvious" (for want of a much better term) than traditional racism but which have similarly dehumanizing effects. (though interesting to note that i didn't pick up on any women's issues in the video, though if may have missed something.)
like if you think that recognizing the connectedness of the struggles of the variegated oppressed is somehow counterrevolutionary i just don't know what to tell you. here's noted racism denier huey newton on the linked struggles of the black, gay, and women's movements - http://www.workers.org/2012/us/huey_p_newton_0524/
― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 May 2014 00:57 (twelve years ago)
the song is ok too i guess
i don't think it's counterrevolutionary at all, and i don't think they're unconnected. Of course they overlap, especially for people in more than one category (and race is inextricable from class in this country). I do think that montage can overly simplify and i think it is imprecise to suggest that all these struggles are the same struggle, which the video tends to suggest. i also think my students will likely take issue with the notion that black is a feeling unmoored from a particular racial experience.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 1 May 2014 01:01 (twelve years ago)
tbh i was the only one sing my h itt though. i did post a million times; i can see how it seemed like "we all" were.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 1 May 2014 01:02 (twelve years ago)
xp yeah i mean saying that being gay or being poor is just like being black is clearly sacrificing nuance in favor of an easy narrative, but i think there's value in pointing out that while the experiences might be different, there is still a common enemy. worth noting too that the guy who made this happens to be black, it's not like this is a macklemore song or something. about to go deep into mindreading here so you'll have to excuse me but it's possible that dream intended for the audience to be fellow blacks, to say "these groups are oppressed too, these are causes we should support"
― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 May 2014 01:08 (twelve years ago)
and "classism is the new racism" is too glib to be worthy of the song, which i appear to like a lot more than you do
― horseshoe, Thursday, 1 May 2014 01:14 (twelve years ago)
that said "classism is the new racism" is clearly a clunker but who is terius but a man whose constant tripping over his own words obscures his talent? and yet we love him
xp ha! no the song is def good
― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 May 2014 01:18 (twelve years ago)
horseshoe otm
― 龜, Thursday, 1 May 2014 01:19 (twelve years ago)
lol k3v i am understatement-impaired
i didn't even know i still liked the-dream! i love this day!
― horseshoe, Thursday, 1 May 2014 01:31 (twelve years ago)
After an April report by TMZ saying that he punch, kicked and strangled his ex-girlfriend while she was pregnant, The-Dream has turned himself into NYPD on charges of felony assault & strangulation, misdemeanor assault, reckless endangerment & child endangerment.
The original assault of ex-girlfriend Lydia Nam resulted in no charges for the singer in April 2013. Nam didn’t report the incident until 7 months later.
http://dayandadream.com/2014/05/07/the-dream-arrested-for-felony-assault-in-nyc/
― Evan R, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 15:53 (twelve years ago)
urgh
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 15:58 (twelve years ago)
wow whata dickhead
― imago all the sheeple (Spottie), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 16:03 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, I thought I was growing desensitized to musicians doing repulsive things, but this is next-level vile. Disgusting.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 16:07 (twelve years ago)
jeez
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 May 2014 16:22 (twelve years ago)
just terrible and depressing.
― goole, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 16:25 (twelve years ago)
wow fuck him
― steendriver dysphoria hoos (The Reverend), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 19:25 (twelve years ago)
grim
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 20:04 (twelve years ago)
Sounds like a truly horrible incident. yet another musician whose music I love that I now will never be able to hear the same way again.
― ginuwine's cousin (monotony), Thursday, 8 May 2014 00:17 (twelve years ago)
What an asshole. Not really able to enjoy his music anymore atm.
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 25 May 2014 00:40 (twelve years ago)
this is up now fyi
― johnny crunch, Monday, 7 July 2014 22:44 (eleven years ago)
this is really fun
― johnny crunch, Monday, 7 July 2014 23:31 (eleven years ago)
beatjack i never knew i needed
― schlump, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 00:54 (eleven years ago)
so stoked for this download. 1977 had some pretty dope songs imo, though super cheesy.
― marc iv, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 01:33 (eleven years ago)
yeah this is really fun
― schlump, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 02:25 (eleven years ago)
♫ wedding bells ♫ is p t bombish idk im feeling this hard
all?i'll? have a moment like hell nah he aint rightaint your typemy sister like hell nah she aint rightshe aint your typewe aint right for each other
fuck itit's nothing
if all was perfect im sure there still would be somethin
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 26 July 2014 23:31 (eleven years ago)
http://www.vulture.com/2014/11/the-dream-beyond-the-lights-interview.html
i for one would like to hear a 'private property' dream vocals demo if that exists pls
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 13:35 (eleven years ago)
sez two part album "crown" - "more of what you expect from me" & "jewel" - "all those records that i write for ppl that i usually give away"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NfaGJJUCTg
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 7 December 2014 02:27 (eleven years ago)
https://soundcloud.com/3lxi/the-dream-fruition
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 13:36 (eleven years ago)
I dig this
― 龜, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 13:43 (eleven years ago)
hey, this is good!
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:58 (eleven years ago)
:)
― 龜, Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:31 (eleven years ago)
this is okay!
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 18 December 2014 21:40 (eleven years ago)
LQ rip of his new single prod by tricky & featuring T.I. ... dare i say it sounds GOOD? http://nahright.com/news/2014/12/30/the-dream-ft-t-i-thats-my-shit/
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 December 2014 17:51 (eleven years ago)
and by that i mean "good" not kanye's good
on some "i luv your girl" shit or maybe a reaction to "i don't mind"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 December 2014 18:00 (eleven years ago)
i know how to push that buttontrust me, y'all just fuckin
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 December 2014 20:42 (eleven years ago)
too bad I had to add Terius to the list of people I'll never consciously listen to again
― Simon H., Wednesday, 31 December 2014 21:06 (eleven years ago)
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/food/main%20Valua%20Vitaly%20shutterstock_51910012.jpg
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 21:45 (eleven years ago)
'that's my shit' is the best dream song since love king
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 1 January 2015 09:37 (eleven years ago)
aka the last time he made a good song
Also into fruition.
― deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 17 January 2015 19:30 (eleven years ago)
he's playing the new EPs he did with tricky for writers today -- i'm not going but i'm allowing myself to get hyped up
@3rikathe EPs as one whole entity is special too. (you'll get it soon.) all genres & classic "love vs"-type of flowing, lush songs & transitions.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 4 February 2015 00:19 (eleven years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hSNromRfXkc
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 19 February 2015 01:59 (eleven years ago)
great interview. i especially enjoyed the bit about people paying dream not to work on anything for 90 days at a time in the lead up to working with them
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 19 February 2015 02:20 (eleven years ago)
I really wish they'd asked him about Electrik Red
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 19 February 2015 02:32 (eleven years ago)
i don't think the 90 hold thing is for real, ebro just speculated it and the-dream went "it's something like that." probably more accurately when beyonce or whoever is in album mode they just pay him to stay in town in case they need him.
― raccoon tanuki dye dashiki nefertiti edges kinky (some dude), Thursday, 19 February 2015 04:57 (eleven years ago)