I put it here bc I honestly regretted reading it, and it left feeling quite favourable towards Britpop, so
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 08:49 (ten years ago) link
Of course a period of prosperity between the Cold War and 9/11 was going to be more apolitical but if you're going to blame Britpop for epitomising vacuous optimism and complacency then you should also blame dance music and nobody seems to be doing that.
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 09:04 (ten years ago) link
That's what I'm saying. I'm not blaming dance music for being apolitical (although I remember being dismayed at the time at how dance music had lost its anti-authoritarian stance and was now being used to tout 2for1 WKDs on a Friday). But why is it suddenly Britpop that's being held to account for eliding politics? What were the Smiths, MBV, Ride, the Stone Roses and umpteen other popular pre-Britpop UK indie bands saying that the likes of Pulp and Blur weren't?
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 09:22 (ten years ago) link
it's sort of depressing how uk ilm is basically 100% britpop this week, above almost every current thing happening in music, even though half of you profess to hate it. get. over. it. as much time as i have for kicking it, obsessing about it to this degree either way is an admission of defeat
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 09:23 (ten years ago) link
hoist by thine own petard, lex.
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 09:31 (ten years ago) link
although really we should keep discussion to the Britpop thread here, really: Britpop : Time For Reevaluation?
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 09:32 (ten years ago) link
the only dog I have in this horse is I downloaded a bunch of sleeper b-sides the other day and they are kind of great and now I am doubting everything (caveat: american)
(the piece doesn't belong in Worst Music Writing Evar at all, it is quite well-written, I just think I disagree)
― katherine, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 10:47 (ten years ago) link
the only dog I have in this RACE. SORRY I just got off a red-eye I wasn't even expecting to be allowed on and am tired etc
― katherine, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 10:48 (ten years ago) link
I didn't know this thread ws specifically for music pieces that're technically poor, soz
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 10:51 (ten years ago) link
given the amount of bad music writing that exists pretty sure that's a prereq for "worst evar"
― katherine, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 10:57 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, fair enough
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 11:05 (ten years ago) link
the ILM worst britpop ever spotify playlist
― ۩, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 11:19 (ten years ago) link
The Parkes-life article does fall foul of an over reliance on italics that the old UK music press loved so much.
― Position Position, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 12:20 (ten years ago) link
lol, britpop. i think we avoided most of the fallout here. people liked oasis for a minute in the u.s. and then they liked...gorillaz? and that was about it.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:01 (ten years ago) link
and that verve song. we loved that verve song. and we embraced one blur song for are jock jam comps. thank you, blur.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:02 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, in the US Britpop is pretty much Oasis = "remember that 'Wonderwall' song? No?" and Blur = that "woo hoo!" song played at baseball games.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:28 (ten years ago) link
does republica count?
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 14:22 (ten years ago) link
Republica is one of the best terrible bands
― chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 14:25 (ten years ago) link
still think 'heads will roll' is the best republica song
― balls, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 14:31 (ten years ago) link
Baby I'm Ready to Go came instantly to mind, hook/singer and all so yeah kinda good at least given I haven't heard it in like 20 years
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 14:46 (ten years ago) link
on the rooftops sha-de-da. that one?
― how's life, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 14:49 (ten years ago) link
It's "shout it out" I think, bt yeah
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 14:50 (ten years ago) link
hm. don't like that as much.
― how's life, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 14:56 (ten years ago) link
Lyrical quibbles aside I think the singer ws Brazilian, or something, also they were too housey to be Britpop
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 15:04 (ten years ago) link
god yes the relentless rave beats
― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 15:07 (ten years ago) link
saw Republica play first support for Ned's Atomic Dustbin in Leeds last year. before Cud.
― Gritty Shakur (sic), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 15:08 (ten years ago) link
republica was a weird band, like roxette crossed with kmfdm and echobelly.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 15:09 (ten years ago) link
Lyrical quibbles aside I think the singer ws Brazilian, or something
Wikipedia has Republica singer as of "Portuguese, Chinese and British descent", born in Nigeria.
― Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 15:11 (ten years ago) link
still, ethnic quibbles aside
― From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link
drugstore had the brazilian singer
― ricky don't lose that number nine shirt (NickB), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link
I wasn't being entirely serious, btw. And yeah I might've been thinking of Drugstore
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 15:16 (ten years ago) link
look they're all happy hardcore foreigners with ravey rhythms ok?
― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 15:16 (ten years ago) link
dude from flowered up was the keyboard/producer/writer. definitely britpop.
― ۩, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 15:38 (ten years ago) link
he was the keyboard? cool
― chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/240/b/2/the_regular_show_wallpaper_by_irv5567-d5crh3g.jpg
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 15:57 (ten years ago) link
I'm slightly depressed that having a "dog in this horse" isn't a real thing. Was momentarily looking forward to using this phrase frequently all summer. May still do.
― Doran, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 21:50 (ten years ago) link
if this was c.jan '13 there'd be a joke about tescos and turduckens in there
― sktsh, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 22:06 (ten years ago) link
I feel kind of blessed that Britpop was just never a significant or noteworthy force in my life. It just kind of passed over me like a cloud. Small good things.
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 01:54 (ten years ago) link
Girls & Boys by Blur is a jam. Good job England
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 02:46 (ten years ago) link
Girls & Boys the only blur i really need. love it so much. still probably my fave 80's homage of the last 25 years.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 02:57 (ten years ago) link
when "Girls & Boys" was briefly Blur's big song in America i thought "they're huge in England, they must have good songs that are hits over there and then they just sent something uncharacteristically dumb over to break America." not only was i totally wrong but basically predicting "Song 2."
― some dude, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 03:53 (ten years ago) link
When Song 2 came out I remember thinking "this is weird, it seems like it should rock really, really hard, and yet somehow it doesn't quite"
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 04:05 (ten years ago) link
http://observer.com/2014/04/robert-mccormicks-daughter-responds-to-nyt-magazine-cover-story/
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 04:15 (ten years ago) link
this is why we can't have nice things
― whatchutola khomeini (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 04:32 (ten years ago) link
I'm confused as to whose side I'm on.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 04:48 (ten years ago) link
“You’re not allowed to sit on these things for half a century, not when the culture has decided they matter,” Mr. Sullivan writes in the article, referring to the transcript.
― how's life, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 09:15 (ten years ago) link
~~someone~~ is gunning for a job w/ the salinger estate
― j., Wednesday, 30 April 2014 09:26 (ten years ago) link
This part is kinda unsettling:
Mr. Sullivan, for his part, defended his actions to the Observer in a telephone conversation shortly after the article was published.
“I won’t try to make it sound like I didn’t struggle with it,” he said of the ethical blurriness of the situation. “It’s not the kind of thing you want to do with every story.”
He added, however, that he was legally in the clear, as one cannot own somebody else’s speech, and Mr. McCormick’s transcript features the words of Elvie Thomas. (“You’re not allowed to sit on these things for half a century, not when the culture has decided they matter,” Mr. Sullivan writes in the article, referring to the transcript.)
Ms. McCormick called Mr. Sullivan’s comments “glib.”
“There is reason to believe this theft of my father’s research was their intention all along,” she said, “and that they have stolen far more from him than just the items Sullivan has publicly admitted.”
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 12:02 (ten years ago) link
i feel like nobody comes out of this well, which might be a cop-out but hey
― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 12:09 (ten years ago) link
i guess it's hard for me to feel too much for either party, it's just two people from the same culture of eggheads that have made a cottage industry of fetishizing and collecting and hoarding precious facts and recordings about old blues singers. i guess if geechie or elvie were alive or if their families were complaining about how they never wanted to be found out or revealed i would have a problem, but honestly i feel for mccormick who seems like a real character and obviously is going through a lot of stuff, and who knows? maybe the sullivan is shady, but i kind of feel like none of this stuff really BELONGS to either of them
it was a hell of an article i will say that
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 13:37 (ten years ago) link