I'd personally put 'Brimful of Asha' down as a post-Britpop thing.
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:00 (ten years ago) link
Turrican i knew ppl who did.Btw ocs hardcore fans were massive. They still sold out gigs here whenever they played last.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:01 (ten years ago) link
But i am sure it was unique to scotland
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:02 (ten years ago) link
When cast first appeared they were good live. Very loud. They supported oasis and played titp95. Then that terrible album came out all polished and you realised the lyrics were awful. It sold shitloads tho as did the second. They were the biggest tshirt band at titp95 by miles
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:04 (ten years ago) link
I know ocs and cast outsold the great escape up here by a long way
to me Britpop is Blur (Parklife and Great Escape era only), Oasis, anyone else doing oi-oi type larks (Supergrass) and that's p much it, so it's quite narrow and in no way defines 90% of the """indie/alternative""" stuff I was listening to.
Listening to all the Nows of the 90s surprised my nostalgia by confirming that 'good' 'britpop' was very, very short-lived - a couple of years max - and that chart music in Britain hit an absolute nadir in 1999 (Texas, Robbie Williams, Stereophonics, Semisonic)
― kinder, Monday, 28 April 2014 22:05 (ten years ago) link
Suede were strictly for the indie kids. Even manics and the verve outsold them tho manics still had the rawk crowd then
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:06 (ten years ago) link
Ugh texas. We thought we got rid of them by 1991 how wrong we were. Fuck you chris evans
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:07 (ten years ago) link
Can we blame chris evans and tfi friday and his virgin breakfast show for it going so shit post 96?I know he had some good bands on but he broke the really bad dadrock bands
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:09 (ten years ago) link
The other thing about 1994 onwards was that it wasnt just indie or alternative was struggled here but kerrang launched nu metal in 1994 too and those bands got bigger and bigger and all the uk rawk bands copied them. So late 90s did seem bad all-round until napster and i was able to hear what i missed ( a lot of post rock and american stuff here the uk mags ignored) the stuff i did like was new stuff by old faves like spiritualized,mercury rev,flaming lips. Stoner rock was the new stuff i listened to back then otherwise it was old stuff i was discovering .
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:19 (ten years ago) link
I still kept buying the music press for some reason.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:20 (ten years ago) link
I knew things had gotten beyond stupid when Gay Dad started getting hyped.
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:29 (ten years ago) link
This still raises a chuckle, actually...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClcwKgxu2wk
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:31 (ten years ago) link
The funny thing is that post grunge did nothing here except for the inexplicable success of Nickelback.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:32 (ten years ago) link
No jam bands either. Nobody knows who dmb were
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:33 (ten years ago) link
Ultrasound were not a great band
― ۩
Lies.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 28 April 2014 22:33 (ten years ago) link
Not sure who was better off mind you
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, April 28, 2014 10:32 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I seem to remember Bush having a hit here with 'Swallowed', which is about the most that Bush ever did here.
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:39 (ten years ago) link
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, April 28, 2014 10:33 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yup, thankfully we were completely spared Phish and DMB!
Nit sure bush giot a hit. Maybe a vid played on the chart show but that was it. Gavin rossdale didnt get famous til he married gwen stefani. It still didnt get him a hit. Hes just a celeb. A trophy husband!
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:41 (ten years ago) link
Swallowed was a pretty big hit in the UK. Well it went top ten and they did it on Top of the Pops.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 28 April 2014 22:44 (ten years ago) link
I wrote this on the Worst Music Writing thread:
I love Taylor Parkes and agree that his article does not belong here, but at the same time his prose style remains so redolent of Melody Maker circa 1995 that it produces a weird sense of discombobulation. Every sentence makes me more nostalgic for Britpop (maybe even the experience of hating Britpop at the time) than most of the other shit I've read about it in these terrible weeks.― Eyeball Kicks, Monday, April 28, 2014 9:52 PM
― Eyeball Kicks, Monday, April 28, 2014 9:52 PM
Some people above talk about Britpop being an early gateway to other kinds of music, and I relate to that. But I also remember the oppositional stance of certain music journalists - among them Taylor Parkes, Simon Price and Neil Kulkarni - being a greater influence on me at the time. Reading the music press encouraged this amazing dichotomy of fully felt youth: lapping it up while despising it.
― Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 28 April 2014 22:47 (ten years ago) link
really like the "we blew it" sentiment of the parkes article.
i do feel like other elements of 'britpop' have been airbrushed out in retrospect, but maybe that was the point all the time.
how was the relationship of pulp to britpop perceived at the time, and maybe more importantly, what did people make of the auteurs?
― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link
parkes essay makes me think of the mekons' journey to the end of the night. was it an album about that process?
i mean...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPQG_6EoyPI
― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:51 (ten years ago) link
Taylor Parkes and even Simon Price (in the early days at least) were quite vocal about liking Oasis
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:53 (ten years ago) link
the auteurs were kind of outside Britpop a little bit except for that "Yanks Go Home" Select article, they werent really a Britpop band, they didnt feel like one either - they were constantly being compared to the go-betweens (i dont see it). the first album anyway
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:55 (ten years ago) link
"the most disastrous misunderstanding of The Beatles since Charles Manson."
^ my fave description of oasis ever
Agreed
― Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 28 April 2014 22:55 (ten years ago) link
Melody Maker front cover from the week after Parklife came out
http://25.media.tumblr.com/38a287a23929ec55eccee0b3a1110f1b/tumblr_milfktUgUM1rba1qao1_400.jpg
― piscesx, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:00 (ten years ago) link
Cranberries - Britpop's Biggest Export
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Monday, 28 April 2014 23:05 (ten years ago) link
CRANBERRIES BRITPOP'S BIGGEST EXPORT
― ۩, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:06 (ten years ago) link
To be honest, I had very little interest in Britpop at the time (with the exception of Blur), but it was all around me because I'd accidentally found myself living in the middle of it and knew loads of people involved with it in one way or another. I saw an early incarnation of Ultrasound a few times around 95/96 and they *were* very good live, but it was an eternity before their album came out and by then they'd somewhat lost focus and stretched every song out to 30 minutes at half-speed.
― Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 28 April 2014 23:06 (ten years ago) link
Cranberries werent Britpop. They were LimRock jeez
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Monday, 28 April 2014 23:07 (ten years ago) link
they lingered too long
― ۩, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:09 (ten years ago) link
Wonderwall I guess was the biggest actual US hit by a britpop band right? Blur werent making britpop by song 2
― ۩, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:12 (ten years ago) link
or maybe ONLY hit
― ۩, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:13 (ten years ago) link
I can see, if you wanted to make early connections, some shared sensibilities between Modern Life is Rubbish and the Auteurs' New Wave, of world weary youth playing with 'English' styles
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:19 (ten years ago) link
Auteurs didnt sell many records did they so britpop didnt seem to care about them by the time it went mainstream. They did get 1 songon all the 90s indie comps though. Im guessing lenny valentino was popular in student discos
― ۩, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:29 (ten years ago) link
I seem to remember Luke Haines being crabby about everything to do with Britpop in interviews!
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Monday, 28 April 2014 23:30 (ten years ago) link
been meaning to read this. ive heard good things about it.
http://www.amazon.com/Bad-Vibes-Britpop-Part-Downfall/dp/0099522268
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Monday, 28 April 2014 23:33 (ten years ago) link
Im guessing lenny valentino was popular in student discos
too brief
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 April 2014 23:35 (ten years ago) link
and no Felix da Housecat remix
Song break: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZksFjV23qYw
Was this Britpop?
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Monday, 28 April 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link
― Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short)
I was a huge fan at the time and when I met Tiny at Leeds Festival 99 I could barely talk I was so starstruck. To me honest their album was never as good as I wanted it to be. They recorded some of their best songs so many times they ended up losing what made them special. Also they pissed away their best song and only potential hit (Kurt Russel) as a B-side to a limited edition single. I could make a great album out of their songs using the album and all the singles they put out. They were great live too.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:52 (ten years ago) link
no cuz they were influenced by sonic youth and pavement. i saw them at t in the park and they were very good.
A band who i saw at titp who i had never cared for but were really good and had been co-opted as britpop were the wannadies. They played just before teenage fanclub (who were magnificent)xp
― ۩, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link
Auteurs had a pretty great career really. All four albums sound quite different and are all really solid. After Murder Park in particular is a brilliant album. I've been looking back at the NME and Melody Maker end of year lists a lot recently. I was surprised to see how well New Wave was received. Think the press had moved on by the second album though.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:55 (ten years ago) link
for those who want to check listshttp://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/nmeindex.html
http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/select.html
http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/mmpage.html
― ۩, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:58 (ten years ago) link
BRITPOPFrieze, December 1995
By Simon Reynolds
http://reynoldsretro.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/britpop-dissected-2-1995-and-battle-of.html
― piscesx, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 00:00 (ten years ago) link
I was 25% of the audience at a ocs gig in 2004
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link
your dog escaped?
― ۩, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 00:07 (ten years ago) link
lol
1. Catatonia – International Velvet
― popchips: the next snapple? (seandalai), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 00:12 (ten years ago) link