Why is everyone not going totally bonkers about the junior boys?

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Johnny Dark was the original member along with Jeremy (Greenspan! He was destined to be embraced by ILM...). Actually I don't think they're brothers.

I agree w/ Jordan to the extent that I generally prefer the more R&B-ish tracks.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 8 October 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

As i may have said before here or elsewhere, their original promo presented an entirely different picture of them in that "Birthday" was the most 80s/new wave thing on there and it was complemented by almost instrumental 2-step rhythm tracks like "You Want To" and "I'm So Into You" - which were slightly weaker. At the time I thought "they should probably allow themselves to be more songful"; the new stuff on the album bore that out more than I would have anticipated.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 8 October 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

not to encourage the accusations of emo, but received a txt from a friend saying he'd just broken up w/his g/f, followed ten minutes later w/:
"O but hey,how gd does that junior boys song u gav me sound wen goin thru a lil emotional confustion? Cool"

― etc, Friday, 8 October 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

That doesn't necessarily make it emo though. I usually put on Darklands after a breakup. Maybe the Jesus and Mary Chain *are* emo!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I found an odd article where the author used Last Exit to explain an 'album rating theory'.
sample quote - I now realise that a mediocre album and a very good album are actually the same thing up until about 10 - 15 listens. After that, depending on the quality of the tracks that don't immediately appeal or jump out, it could either be very good (The Prodigy) or mediocre (Junior Boys).

btw - pleased to hear you're still enjoying the album, ned

― nick.K (nick.K), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Why thanks! It's a grower, and that is no insult. What seemed initially to be something of a samey listen has changed much over time in my mind -- I always like albums that do that. I think there's a distinction to be made between releases that don't invite the necessary relistens to overcome that perception and those that do, and what that element is is often hard to pin down, and differs from album to album.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

Happened to be walking by Other Music tonight at the same time they were playing an in-store for about 30 people. Good enough that I now want to buy their album, but (as far as live shows go) I wish they were taller. And English. And girls.

― dlp9001, Sunday, 24 October 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

the new songs (live) are great - want to hear more!

― Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 25 October 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

so what did people make of the NY show?

― nick.K (nick.K), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

It was kinda like their album. In fact, some songs were more interesting than their album versions ("Under the Sun" in particular). If you'd never heard them before, it would have been a great introudction.

Ratatat was surprisingly good, seeing as I hated them the last time I saw them. Maybe it was because I was farther back in the crowd. and dancing.

and was it me, or did Mouse on Mars just break it fucking open after the first 3 songs? About the time where they said they'd play something with more rhythm, it became absolutely incredibly fun.

and there definitely wasn't enough dancing.

― lemin (lemin), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

just back from the cambridge show - i thought they were fantastic, way better than i imagined their live show would be. ratatat also impressed me a good deal, i suspect they're shit on record but they're a lot of fun live. mouse on mars sucked, though.

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

anyone else notice the newOrder sample on Three Words? The high hat rhythm and snare hit are sampled from Truth on Movement...though it could be the Peel Sessions version they sampled...either way, it's newOrder!

― biznotic, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)

finally got it last night and "got it" fairly quickly. its ace. came at the right moment too, as i was getting a bit bogged down at work and needed some music to remind me of the existence of possibility. fall release also perfect as it coincides with the dusting off of all my OMD and associates records ("white car in germany", as brilliant as it is, is difficult to consume in DC in July, DC having some of the most crappy summer weather in all the US). unfortunately, i missed the tour, though the likelihood that i would have been able to afford taking off work AND get any friends to come along AND get them to see the opener for the opener, was sorta low, though this is one of those bands i would have liked to have been able to say i saw on their first visit. anyways, if, on an off chance, i ever become wealthy, i am going to give you a call nick and come work for Kin for free ;-)

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought the NYC show as great. I actually had never heard Mouse on Mars before the show, and they completely blew me away. As for the Junior Boys themselves, I thought they came off pretty well. And the 2 new songs they played (new to me, at least) were very cool. Ratatat were okay, a lot more energetic than I expected, but not as fun as the Jr. Boys, I thought, and certainly nowhere near Mouse on Mars.

― Maciej Kasperowicz (Maciej), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

The idiotic Peter Margasak in the Chicago Reader:

"Opening the show is Canadian duo Junior Boys, whose debut album, Last Exit (Domino/KIN), fuses mopey indie-pop vocals to spare synth melodies and fractured microhouse beats. The songs sound to me like minimal Timbaland remixes of obscure Pet Shop Boys tunes—and that’s not a compliment."

Come on! In what world does Timbaland remixing the Pet Shop Boys not sound awesome???

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 October 2004 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, some people still thought that the ultimate 80s group was the Del-Fuegos.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i actually like margasak and he's entitled to his opinion--it's funny that his description of jr boys is actually fairly accurate, but he takes it as a negative and i take it as a positive. go figure.

― amateur!!st, Friday, 29 October 2004 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Mouse on Mars (live) fucking kick ass. Yay.

― tk, Friday, 29 October 2004 08:28 (twenty-one years ago)

It's been a long time since either Timbaland or the Pet Shop Boys "sounded awesome."

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 29 October 2004 08:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Marcello re the former have you heard "Get On Dis Motorcycle" or "Keep It Moving" or the best tracks from the last Bubba album?

That said the Timbaland tracks Junior Boys theoretically take their cues from are like five years old.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 29 October 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Specifically a couple of tracks from Missy's Da Real World.

Although really if you're gonna be strict about it I always thought a 2-step connection was easier to make out than a clear and distinct Timbaland connection - Steve Gurley particularly.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 29 October 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracks 2 and 3 were the only ones I wanted to keep from the last Bubba album. The rest of it sounded like Guns N' Roses melted into a banjo fondue to soundtrack reruns of CHIPS.

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 29 October 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

That sounds awesome though.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 29 October 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Which were 2 and 3 again?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 29 October 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

The ones that sounded more country. Track 2 had Ryan Pedder on vocals. Can't remember what they were called, being at work and the CD not being to hand.

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 29 October 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

'Jimmy Mathis' and 'Comin' Round'. MC be more of a Neptunes man, right?

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Friday, 29 October 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

MC you gotta love "Nowhere" and "Deliverance" and "Hootenanny", right?

Everyone quotes it a lot but I love that line in "Deliverance", "Solid on the surface as I crumble within/but legends are made out of vulnerable men"

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 29 October 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

To be utterly honest, Tim, that's the first time I've seen anyone quote the line!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Wrong.

Definitely more of a Neptunes man. That Kenna album is something else, innit, even if it was recorded three years ago.

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 29 October 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

nb: that "Wrong" was a Tim xpost.

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 29 October 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

That Kenna album is something else, innit

Ah good! You and Dan and I can form a united front against Scott Seward on this matter. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

whoa man i don't get you guys at all. that album blows!

i've played the JBz to tons of people and given the album to one. i'm a one-man groundswell, i tell u.

― g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 29 October 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Opening for MoM only drove home the fact that they are incredibly dull live.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm really excited about this show tonight.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

The idiotic Peter Margasak in the Chicago Reader:

Someone call Liz Phair and see if she can get him fired again.

― dlp9001, Friday, 29 October 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

To be fair to Margasak, I'd never really had a problem with his writing before. The descriptor "idiotic" mostly comes from stories I've heard about him from those who've worked with him.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 October 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going to the show tonight as well. I fully expect to get my ass knocked off by Mouse on Mars (who I've never heard before) and will demand a refund from ILM if I'm not satisfied.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 29 October 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd rather hear most of Timbaland's recent work than the Junior Boys, and I like the Junior Boys ok.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 29 October 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I feel safe promising you a good time, Nick.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 October 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

(Should we just meet up at the LSA, or do you want to meet somewhere beforehand? I have no other plans tonight.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 October 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm, are you driving? Because we're meeting my sister and her bf at the show, and they're going to have a rental car, so if you could give us a ride to the show, then we can just ride home with them in their rental car afterwords and not have to have them follow us. Maybe we could go for a quick dinner somewhere before the show. I actually have a job interview after work today, so I'll be getting home a little later than usual.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 29 October 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I can give you a ride. How about you just call me when you get home from your interview?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 October 2004 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm EXCITED TOO! WOO HOO! And John, that means you have to hang out with me too. Bwah ha ha.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 29 October 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

What does that mean?!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 October 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

(You're just mad because I was never able to think of a celebrity you look like.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 October 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, awesome. CALL U L8TER D00D!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 29 October 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

Rob Da Plank on The Blue Room

Apparently reckons The Junior Boys album was not released in the UK last year, but is available in the US !

Da Plank also wants the Junior Boys in for a session.

When is the next Junior Boys album due ? mentioned on

philip sherburne
http://phs.abstractdynamics.org/archives/004707.html

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i've no idea when the next album's due

― nick.K (nick.K), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

This stuff is awful.

― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...

have the MFA "bellona" and the fennesz "teach me how to fight" surfaced yet?

― jermaine (jnoble), Sunday, 19 June 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

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