Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

I think if you check out around minute 3 of that Nugent and the Cosmos track linked, you will hear a version of "the lope" too (from Tyler's Doom & Gloom blog link posted a little bit upthread). Becomes maybe even more "lopey" around minute 5, but you'll get the idea.

merriam-webster says: "an easy natural gait of a horse resembling a canter. 2. : an easy usually bounding gait capable of being sustained for a long time." so um, you know, drumming like that.

i understand gallop, stomp -- do you mean like Ralph Molina?

crazy horse lope

yeah molina's got a lope. ha, i don't know, i think I just think of it as a drummer who is propulsive without being "tight" -- maybe keeps things a little behind the beat?

also possible i just like the word "lope"

holy shit @ that solar motel band video... kinda wishing i'd somehow made it to chicago to see that

whole thing is pretty incredible -- as good as the studio version is, I think the live version is going to replace it in my listening habits. drumming in particular is out of this world.

forsyth says there'll be a solar motel band LP called Intensity Ghost out this fall on No Quarter

Yeah, next Forsyth record should be great, first one written with/for the live band lineup, which seems to just be getting ramped up.

Yeah the lineup is different for the live shows, right? A subtle but different feel. Looking forward to jamming it on my speakers at home instead of earbuds at work.

Lineup of the live band is only on that RSD live record, the Solar Motel LP is its own thing (Forsyth plays all the guitars for instance). Next record will be the live band as it is in the video, though the keyboard player wasn't on the tour (but could be on the next record?).

If anybody is in the mood for more live-listening, there is a new set from my duo up on bandcamp. It's a weird one, all strings (electric guitar and table steel guitar) no keyboards: http://grand-banks.bandcamp.com/track/grand-banks-live-3-28-2014

Starts out kind of Branca/gamelan-ish, with some drone/feedback, but gets mellower around the 7-8 minute mark. Jump to minute 27 if you just want pretty guitar and a nice story ....

checkin' it out. are you really supposed to remove your shoes before playing?

Cool man, hope you enjoy.

As far as the shoes go, no one has ever asked me to, but technically I think you are? (oddly enough several people have asked me this question in regards to that photo already!) It is a restaurant/tea house most of the time, and when you sit at the little Japanese tea tables they have set up there I think they do ask you to take your shoes off, but when it is show time they let the bands slide (unless I have just been being a jerk all these years, but the bands always seem to keep em on). Virginia has really antiquated liquor laws, so if you want to sell beer/liquor you have to have food too, so basically all small music venues are in restaurants for the most part, or bars that sell food too.

so punk, keeping shoes on in the Japanese teahouse.

hey, marisa anderson is touring a lot

4/16 San Francisco CA @ The Hemlock Tavern w/ Marielle V Jakobsons and Danny Paul Grody

4/17 Venice Beach CA @ Del Monte Speakeasy w/ Guy Blakeslee EARLY SHOW 8-10pm

4/18 Phoenix AZ @ Trunk Space w/ James Fella and JRC

4/19 Tucson AZ @ Exploded View Microcinema w/ Ohioan

4/21 Marfa TX@ Ballroom Marfa

4/22 Denton TX @ Rubber Gloves Rehearsal Studios

4/23 Austin TX @ The Safara Lounge w/ Randy Reynolds

4/25 Houston TX @ Kohn's Wine and Darts w/ Jenny Hoyston & Sandy Ewen

4/26 Houston TX @ Cactus Music 1pm

4/26 Baton Rouge LA@ Mud and Water w/ Tess Brunet

4/30 Boone NC Espresso News + Low Wine Bar w/ Cowboy Crisis

5/1 Charlottesville VA Twisted Branch Tea Bazaar w/ Mike and Cara Gangloff

5/2 Durham NC The Pinhook EARLY SHOW 6pm

5/3 Blacksburg VA @ the Cellar w/ the Black Twig Pickers

5/4 Asheville NC @ The Mothlight w/ Mike and Cara Gangloff

5/6 Pittsburgh PA @ Garfield Artworks w/ Pairdown, Plankton Wat, Mike Tamburo

5/7 Washington DC @ Bathtub Republic w/ Marian McLaughlin

5/8 Baltimore MD @ Calvert St House Concert

5/9 Philadelphia PA @ Random Tea House

5/10 Harrisburg PA Little Amps Coffee Roasters

5/11 New York NY@ Trans-Pecos

5/12 Providence RI @ Machines with Magnets w/ Plankton Wat, Work/Death and God Willing

5/15 Montreal QB @Casa del Popolo One Man Band Fest

5/16 Hamilton ON Canada@ This Ain't Hollywood

5/17 Guelph ON Canada@ Silence w/ Bantam Wing and Syngia

5/18 Toronto ON@ Thou Shalt Lori Canada Holy Oak

5/19 Detroit MI @Trumbullplex

5/20 Columbus OH @ Natalie's Coal Fired Pizza

5/21 St Louis MO@ Lemp Neighborhood Arts Center

5/22 Chicago IL @ The Hideout w/ Brokeback

5/23 Louisville KY @Dreamland w/ Wooden Wand

5/25 Lexington KY Willie's Locally Known w/ Wooden Wand

5/26 Cincinnati OH @ MOTR w/ Wooden Wand

5/27 Nashville TN @ The Stone Fox w/ William Tyler

5/28 Bloomington IN @Bottom of the Hill

5/29 Iowa City IA @ Public Space One

5/30 Omaha NB@ The Slowdown w/ Simon Joyner

5/31 Wichita KS @ Kirby's w/ Francis Moss and Keepers

6/5 Aspen CO@ Justice Snow's

6/6 Paonia CO @ house show

6/8 Boise ID @The Crux

actually annoying because she has TWO colorado shows, but they're both about 250 miles away from me. I even emailed her asking about another show and she said if I can find someone to set it up, she'll do it! i have no experience in this kind of thing, but I'm asking around. any advice?

Yeah man, I am psyched for that! M. Anderson is playing at said Tea House with Mike and Cara Gangloff, which is a great fit. Really psyched for it.

No real advice, seems like you would just try to find a friendly venue for her to play at? I know she was booked to play a really weird place here in the past, and the Tea Bazaar definitely is not paying folks a ton to play, so she probably just doesn't want to chase a venue down.

goddam no one comes to mpls :(

come on now, you get more of these people than colorado!
but yeah, seems like it might not be too hard to find a friendly venue ... maybe even the local guitar shop would do it (they host shows pretty regularly). I don't know, i'll have to ask around. I mean, she's playing a pizza place in Columbus OH...

yeah she did come through before but my daughter was sick....i should ask chris from s0ft @buse i think he helped her get a gig before

actually though there's no way she could do it

5/29 Iowa City IA @ Public Space One

5/30 Omaha NB@ The Slowdown w/ Simon Joyner

5/31 Wichita KS @ Kirby's w/ Francis Moss and Keepers

nice to see her getting on some good bills though! brokeback, wooden wand, tyler, etc

i feel spoiled with two back to back houston dates for marisa, a rooftop nighttime gig then the next day a lunch time in-store performance; i'm trying to picture a daytime gig like that, i don't think i've ever been to one. i can't decide.

rooftop sounds nice

Rooftop does sound nice. The Tea Bazaar in my town (putting on the M. Anderson show) has a great outdoors back porch (on the roof essentially), but I have only successfully gotten them to put a show on up there once years ago. Apparently it is too important to their teen/college kid hookah-smoking contingent to let stuff happen back there. Would be such a cool place for some of the shows they book though.

If anybody is in the mood for more live-listening, there is a new set from my duo up on bandcamp. It's a weird one, all strings (electric guitar and table steel guitar) no keyboards: http://grand-banks.bandcamp.com/track/grand-banks-live-3-28-2014 Starts out kind of Branca/gamelan-ish, with some drone/feedback, but gets mellower around the 7-8 minute mark. Jump to minute 27 if you just want pretty guitar and a nice story ....

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Really cool stuff, sounds like someone's hitting that steel guitar with a mallet or something? This sounds like stuff I'd like to make.

Still bummed I missed Marisa when she came through town, I love how effortless her stuff sounds. I listen to Mercury several times a week! A nice palate cleanser when coming off of listening to some like grandiose 20 minute Basho epic. Her work is a bit more pristine and joyful, kinda. She's something special, for sure.

yeah grandavis - that grand banks set was very nice! spoken word bit at the end was great too. i'd love to see more of that kind of thing around where i live. maybe i just need to start doing it.

oh and hey speaking of marisa, looks like there is now a CD version of that last public domain record if you didn't get the (somewhat pricey) LP: http://marisaanderson.bandcamp.com/album/traditional-and-public-domain-songs-2

Marisa Anderson apparently has classical training, and has played a long time, so that probably goes a long way towards explaining her effortless sound. Can't wait to see her live, a really good pairing with Mike & Cara Gangloff.

Also, thanks for listening! You can actually see me playing my guitar with mallets in the photo attached to the track (which is from this show). Basically I have a drum stick shoved in my strings between the neck and pickups and am alternating hitting the strings over the neck (in front of the drum stick) and over the pickups (behind the drum stick). I try to mix in stuff like this most shows, but straight playing too (working a LOT harder on the straight playing these days).

liking this grandavis...part of me hears reich anytime i hear non-jazz mallets on anything, but this isn't really like that at all....this actually reminded me of an interesting dude in Minneapolis, Dave Krejci....he made this as far as I know one of a kind instrument called the cleophone...he bows or uses mallets and other stuff on it....he's also a hammond/farfisa player who does kind of quirky zappa-meets-booker t kind of stuff i've heard...but yeah it's a cool thing....i don't think he plays out much because it weighs a ton and is hard to set up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPMW7VOKOWQ

http://www.doses.com/2006/11/24/the-cleophone/

Thanks UMS, that Krejci is really cool, but I am a total sucker for this kind of thing. I used to think about making instruments, but I don't think I could pull anything that cool off. Plus I like trying to get stuff out of regular guitars. The movable bridge on that thing is great though, and it has serious resonance! Always cool when folks can play super weird stuff all acoustically (at least it doesn't seem like he is amplifying it at all, could be wrong).

okay so most of the fahey records are very simple recordings for the most part, sound like mostly one mic guitar recordings....do you guys ever notice that lots of times his guitar is panned left in the stereo mix even though it's the only instrument on the track? Such a weird thing

Maybe he had the same problem I did with garageband.

which recordings are you listening to? are they spotify or CD rips? because back when I did torrents a lot more I got some really dodgy Fahey releases that I think were compiled from some person cobbling together individual mp3s that I think they snagged from like, Kazaa. I remember a lot of them having weird fidelity/playback things going on

America on spotify, but it's something i remember from listening to actual vinyl too....not like bad or poor recording, just one song seems a bit left then the next couple will be panned middle again

going back a way to neal's post, not entirely sure what the latter part is getting at re: niches & idealization within solo guitar. brought up DBH wrt ryley cos there aren't many distinctly british sounding solo guitar records being made at the moment & it's interesting to see how ppl pull it off. idk if you are cleaving to an idea of composer's intent but I refuse to believe yr down on looking at ideals in records after you enthused about jerry hionis' storytelling upthread

definitely stoked at the prospect of seeing debashish play, I've not really seen any hindustani classical music live besides talvin singh so it'll be interesting

I see the overlap in the sounds of Time Flies and All Kinds of You; I'm just a bit more familiar with Ryley's material in a way that it easily stands alone when compared to similar albums. I probably read into your thought wrong when you said that your wry of the pastoral albion ideal, whether you meant ideal in a way of just an creative idea or that it is an attempt to be the perfection of that niche style. Sometimes I read into a review where the writer seems wry of an effort by a solo guitar player bc the guitarist is seen as trying to publish a conclusion or perfection in that way of playing. It seems that maybe solo guitar records are easier to call out or call bluff on, in comparison to other contemporary experimental albums.

What I mean by niche and automated idealism is where an artist releases an album that is so niche, so focused into what it's trying to do, that it automatically reads as idealic/utopic in the listeners ears. I do love back stories and the way that the player weaves that into the overall picture of their output, I don't know where I've contradicted myself though with this while talking about idealism. I'm all for it and even all for someone, without much credentials at all, trying to modestly add their effort to the shelf of players.

well, this is prob of no interest to anyone else reading the thread, but I think your idea about niche guitar albums capturing ideal visions is interesting. I wasn't sure if you were down on fishing for artistic ideas beyond technique, but I think the way guitarists position themselves wrt their influences & the Grand Tradition Of Guitar Playing is fun to unpack & the storytelling is just another part of that process. my discomfort w/ a romantic idea of olde england is to do w/ motive & execution, & to my ears DBH hits on a distinctly english sound w/out a whiff of nostalgic re-enactment, but all these ideals change a little every time they're invoked, the pentangle sound means something different in 2014 than it did in 1970, so however pure the idea being chased seems, it's still mutable. I suppose it's relatively easy to map what's going on w/ solo guitar, compared to other music, there's less room for ambiguity.

Iink you're right about DBH. That's a tough line to toe& they don't seem retro.

Still, wrt Ryley. It's clearly a throwback, album cover & all. But people end up being modern in ways they don't even intend sometimes. Like to use a ridic comparison, sometimes I like Out Come the Wolves by Rancid more than the actual Clash, less pokey and important and harder & faster. Ryley's got good pop instincts. It's a little less shaggy and goofy than the stuff he referencing, for better or worse. And the mystical Albion shit was retro jive when Incredible String Band & Pentangle did it, it's not like they are more authentic necessarily

So I got the Glenn Jones and Chris Forsyth RSD records. Also picked up Marisa Anderson - The Golden Hour because it was $9? Thanks thread!

Couldn't find Solar Motel
Glenn Jones thing is great wish it were twice as long

Chris Forsyth in stock here: http://www.bullmoose.com/c/12066/record-store-day-2014/0

Glenn Jones too for those of you that didn't bother.

Snagging that Forsyth one

It's great!

ah thanks for the tip re: the forsyth! got the digital, but the LP looks so good. nice cover reference:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rn2XF1fc1gc/UDOZQf2HhoI/AAAAAAAAAWI/HLPhBXeAOV4/s1600/Little_Feat_-_Electrif_Lycanthrope-front+600x600.jpg

any of y'all get this?
http://lightintheattic.net/releases/1057-playing-guitar-the-easy-way
http://lightintheattic.net/system/release_images/0001/3161/playing-guitar-the-easy-way_thumb_325.jpg?1390517980

Following on the heels of LITA’s previous Chapman reissues comes an ultra-rarity, 1978’s Playing Guitar The Easy Way – an instructional record (complete with a 20 page booklet of notation) making its CD debut and reissued on vinyl for the first time ever! For guitar geeks, it’s one of the first instructional methods to deal with open tunings like DADGAD. For Chapman fans, it’s merely a gas to listen to!

Released with the direct involvement of Michael – who supplied the original master tape as well as some new liner notes – he still stands by this record as he told Thurston Moore during a recent interview for the Fretboard Journal:

“I still think it was a good idea. [But] it wasn’t meant to be for people starting the guitar; it was for people who had maybe got bogged down a bit and then maybe wanted to write some songs, and here comes an interesting way to find some new chords, which is what I did, you know, I just went.”

Now just about everyone can try Playing Guitar The Easy Way!

wow yeah that's an awesome idea