Grateful Dead live, Dick's Picks etc - S&D

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I did a couple exchanges for blanks and postage for R.E.M. tapes in the late '90s, but that was still facilitated through the internet; not sure I could have pulled it off if it required, you know, actually interacting with other humans.

cwkiii, Monday, 14 April 2014 17:16 (twelve years ago)

I did a handful of postage tape trades for Who and Kinks stuff pre-internet, but it was a crapshoot in terms of sound quality -- one person's A+ SB was another's C- SB, or sometimes SBs were actually AUDs.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 April 2014 17:28 (twelve years ago)

IlRC there were listings of traders in the back of Relix and Dupree's Diamond News. If took forever to get copies back from these ppl, but man my brother and I used to get so pumped when a package would arrive.

tobo73, Monday, 14 April 2014 17:29 (twelve years ago)

i never did pre-internet tape trading, but i remember in 93-94 going to a dude's house who had maybe 50 dead tapes and it seemed like an embarrassment of riches.
i listened to some of those Thelma Theater shows that are the next Dave's Picks and they are pretty killer. Actually the audience tape from a different night might be better?

tylerw, Monday, 14 April 2014 17:33 (twelve years ago)

I also wonder whether Hunter would have fed an opening line as gross and cringe-inducing as "we can share the women, we can share the wine" to Jerry Garcia although I also think it does a neat job of encapsulating, in one line, the nasty "sure, my old lady'll fix us dinner, she's mellow" sexist vibe of NoCal hippieism-in-practice

this is great, lol

― marcos, Monday, April 14, 2014 12:55 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Won't defend the lyric but I think the line that follows - "we can share what we've got of yours, cuz we've done shared all of mine" - is telling. It's about those who would take advantage of the sort of NoCal hippie utopia you allude to. The freeloaders among the freeloaders, if you will. I think it's far a more cynical tune than that line, taken out of context, might suggest.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 01:11 (twelve years ago)

Huh, never heard "Scarlett" -> "Touch", I like it.

Mark, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 01:49 (twelve years ago)

i never did pre-internet tape trading, though plenty of my friends did. they had those tape shelves that were like 3 or 4 feet high that could fit 50-100 tapes or so. there was always a shelf for the dead and another for fish. the tapes were so damn murky and worn out, i feel like couldn't even tell if it was phish or the dead playing. could've been the pot though.

marcos, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 13:59 (twelve years ago)

there was always a shelf for the dead and another for fish PHISH!!!

marcos, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:00 (twelve years ago)

Around '94 or '95 I did a couple B+P trades for some Phish shows, then I met a guy in one of my archtiecture classes that would copy me Dead shows. I think I only had about 10-12 total tapes, I think they are still around somewhere.

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:40 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

hey! i'm doing a summer of dead thing this year again on doom & gloom, but I'm asking for other people to contribute too, so I thought I'd put it out here on ILM. could be fun, already have some interesting contributions... http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/87313206822/summer-of-dead-2014-call-for-submissions-dead

tylerw, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 17:38 (twelve years ago)

also this is pretty cool, newly surfaced?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqlADKgCS_Y

tylerw, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 17:48 (twelve years ago)

I was thinking about shooting you an email to do 1995, but I doubted that I'd be as eloquent about it as others. Specifically I'd want to write something up about the last 7/9/95 Soldier Field show since I was supposed to go but didn't, and have been oddly drawn to the show despite the obvious dip in quality.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 18:00 (twelve years ago)

do it! really, it can be as eloquent / ineloquent as you want.

tylerw, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 18:02 (twelve years ago)

Excited for this! Way more interested in what others have to say, but if I get motivated I'll let you know Tyler.

grandavis, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:01 (twelve years ago)

do it!
http://radiofreephoenix.com/images/sunshine%20day%20dream.jpg

tylerw, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:05 (twelve years ago)

my wife and I were just talking about Watkins Glen, she really wanted to go! Unfortunately she was 17 and her dad wouldn't let her.

sleeve, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:05 (twelve years ago)

guy who owns a local bbq place was there, said he did not see a single band. "i could almost hear some of it."

tylerw, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:09 (twelve years ago)

tyler, i wld like to write something, this weekend, abt 5/26/72

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:25 (twelve years ago)

yeah! just email it to tywilc AT gmail.com. i'm probably going to start posting them in a week or two...

tylerw, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:29 (twelve years ago)

Whatta tyme trip! Even better musically (differently groovy visually): Dead with Allmans on same occasion, doing that "Mountain Jam":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS0m7hrCfHc

dow, Thursday, 5 June 2014 00:15 (twelve years ago)

Duane with the GD, "Dark Star-Spanish Jam," Fillmore 1970

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh9SyiQUfg0

dow, Thursday, 5 June 2014 00:17 (twelve years ago)

Oh, well, actually, there's more of these encounters than had occurred to me:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Grateful+Dead+Duane+Allman

dow, Thursday, 5 June 2014 00:20 (twelve years ago)

Don't miss "It Hurts Me Too," GD x Duane in '71 (caveat: Weir sings! OK by me)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgPV9DFkQFs

Then there's GD w Dickey Betts, "Not Fade Away," June 6. 1973 (a bit more Weir, but mostly instrumental):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niI2yEEJtYE

It's from this show https://archive.org/details/gd1973-06-10.sbd.miller.tobin.patched-89730.90979.flac16 This YouTube excerpt is the first 10-odd minutes of the final subset in the third set: "Not Fade Away-->Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad-->Drums-->Not Fade Away (Weir's baack, at his Weirest and then some--still okay by me)-->Johnny Be Goode"

dow, Thursday, 5 June 2014 01:43 (twelve years ago)

Say "Guten Abend" to your Grateful Dead friends and family at our 4th annual Grateful Dead Meet-Up at the Movies! This year's epic one-night event will feature a complete rare live studio performance of the Dead captured during their legendary European tour in 1972 with audio remastered from the original analog tapes. Never officially released and never before seen in its entirety, the Bremen, West Germany's Beat Club TV program studio performance features the classic 1972 lineup - the last known video of Pigpen, and captures the Dead in their prime, playing at the height of their powers and tearing through a condensed version of a typical Europe '72 concert. This very special night will offer a unique view of the band, allowing fans in cinemas to hear fly-on-the-wall chatter and get up-close and personal with band members in one of their most intimate studio performances ever. We have no plans to release this concert on DVD or home video of any kind, so don't miss out on what could be your only chance to see it!

"Grateful Dead Meet-Up at the Movies: Beat Club 4/21/72" will only be playing on the silver screen for one night! Come out and connect with Dead Heads in your neighborhood on July 17 at 7:30pm local time.

Tickets are now available at participating theater box offices and online at www.FathomEvents.com.

dow, Monday, 9 June 2014 17:26 (twelve years ago)

Ugh, why aren't they doing this on Jerry's birthday like all three previous years? I'm away on the 17th. Whatta bummer.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 05:20 (twelve years ago)

definite bummer, looks like a good time. somehow i don't believe they aren't going to put it out on DVD, but who knows, maybe they only have the rights for this one screening.
here's what i'm listening to today - https://archive.org/details/gd1970-06-04.123798.gdnrps.sonyTC124.olsen.droncit.flat.flac16 - very enjoyable audience tape from 1970.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 17:58 (twelve years ago)

three weeks pass...

this is in fulllllll swing
http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/tagged/summer-of-dead
http://38.media.tumblr.com/d93e8d6d9393f1b72caa44b34eafdb8b/tumblr_n83wigb20t1qzy30io1_1280.jpg
definitely would love to have anyone here contribute...

tylerw, Thursday, 3 July 2014 15:29 (eleven years ago)

two weeks pass...

Speaking of xpost Jack Straw:

http://www.dead.net/sites/default/files/imagecache/product-main/grateful-dead-daves-picks-11-cover-art.jpg?1406065249

Jack Straw may have been from Wichita but the Grateful Dead only played there once and what a show it was! Whether the band knew they would only have one shot to show the "Doo-dah" city what they were all about, we just don't know but they sure did nail it. Dick's Picks producer Dick Latvala initially considered this one for release and with a single listen, you'll know why. From the epic 90-minute 16-song first set to super tight ditties from the massively popular Workingman's Dead and American Beauty albums and newly minted Europe '72 classics like "He's Gone," "Brown-Eyed Women," and "China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider," you're bound to agree. Lest we forget to mention the great sounding tapes and excellent acoustics at the Century II Convention Hall. (Oh, and as a little bonus, we've thrown in the best of the bunch from Oklahoma City 11/15/72!)

Mastered in HDCD from the original soundboard recordings produced by Owsley Stanley, with fresh artwork from Tony Millionaire (and his little dog too), and liner notes from original handbill artist and then first-time Grateful Dead concert attendee Gary Houston, this sonic adventure is one to cross off the old bucket list.
(Ships Aug. 1)

dow, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 22:30 (eleven years ago)

The cover info doesn't come across too legibly there, but it's

Dave's Picks Volume 11: Century II Convention Hall, Wichita, KS 11/17/72

dow, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 22:33 (eleven years ago)

Wow, I hadn't been paying attention to the Dave's Raves series lately, since it mostly seemed to focus on post-'72 stuff. But that Wichita show looks aces.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 22:54 (eleven years ago)

I'm confused. dicks picks are getting remastered?

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 24 July 2014 20:27 (eleven years ago)

Last I heard they were being remastered for the vinyl reissues.

cwkiii, Thursday, 24 July 2014 20:31 (eleven years ago)

it seems ... unnecessary

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Friday, 25 July 2014 11:05 (eleven years ago)

Spring 1990 box: streaming a track from each show, etc.
http://www.dead.net/store/1990s/spring-1990-other-one-box?eml=dead/072814/lp2#listeningpartypart1

dow, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 20:29 (eleven years ago)

...Jerry wondering, "Where do they keep coming from?"

dow, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 20:32 (eleven years ago)

DP have been slowly coming out, chronologically, on vinyl, yes, but I think they are also reissuing the CDs - I've seen a few earlier entries with 'new' prices recently (they usually go for big bucks on Amazon, eBay, etc). Different cover art, too, I think? I dunno. I have a lot of the original ones but I'm way more interested in the Dave's Picks series lately, as well as the Garcia Live series (recently released vol. 4 is the best so far, I think), and the Dick's vinyl reissues (3 and 5 are all time).

And then there is this:

http://importantrecords.com/imprec/imprec399

which I will totally be buying

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 22:53 (eleven years ago)

aw, tylerw's dead link is .... dead

http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/94087648147/summer-of-dead-2014-where-am-i-who-am-i-what

will be all over this when back. moar mixes plz

Brakhage, Thursday, 7 August 2014 20:00 (eleven years ago)

haha, works now -- I think my hilarious title was too long of a filename.
it is good stuff though! jams!

tylerw, Thursday, 7 August 2014 20:35 (eleven years ago)

Thanks! Listening to the 71 Barn stuff now

Brakhage, Thursday, 7 August 2014 21:05 (eleven years ago)

update re the 1990 box: Deadnet reads Tyler's blog!
Relive your favorite memories from the legendary tour (or make brand new ones) as we take a little trip back to Spring 1990 with an interactive timeline where you will find music, memorabilia, and incredible moments as remembered by Grateful Dead friends, fans, and scholars. Join in the fun by telling your own tales of the tour and posting photos.
http://view.em-dead.net/?j=fe9815777064027975&m=fe93127176650d7b77&ls=fe3015737d670478701674&l=ff041572716004&s=fe6117737061007d771c&jb=ffcf14&ju=fe5b157577660d7a7112&r=0

dow, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 17:50 (eleven years ago)

Warren Haynes has been touring a Jerry Garcia tribute set where he plays with each city's local orchestra, and i worked the Baltimore gig last week where he played with the BSO. i'm not super well versed in the Dead beyond a couple records, so i don't know all the songs, but i thought it sounded pretty good.

some dude, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 18:07 (eleven years ago)

The 11/15/72 Playing off the new Dave's Picks is pretty incredible

so there are two spring 90 boxes now? didn't realize

Brakhage, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 21:36 (eleven years ago)

two spring 90 boxes! totally necessary haha. i kind of dig some of the marsalis jams, I guess.
where are you seeing that deadnet reads my blog?

tylerw, Thursday, 14 August 2014 18:22 (eleven years ago)

Just re their invitation to interactive nostalgia, pasted into in my prev post: figuring they got inspired by your ever-budding Summer of Dead coverage.

dow, Thursday, 14 August 2014 22:52 (eleven years ago)

But I don't think they're putting out *two* 1990 boxes, are they.

dow, Thursday, 14 August 2014 22:53 (eleven years ago)

this is an additional box called 'the other one' that's more spring 90 stuff. so there is the original spring 90 box and now there is this one

For those of you who are keeping track, this release also marks a significant milestone as now, across the two Spring 1990 boxed sets, Dozin At The Knick, and Terrapin Limited, the entire spring tour of 1990 has been officially released, making it only the second Grateful Dead tour, after Europe 1972, to have that honor.

Brakhage, Friday, 15 August 2014 16:34 (eleven years ago)

so weird to me that, of all eras, Spring 1990 would be only the second to be fully officially documented

Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 August 2014 16:37 (eleven years ago)

i feel like there are logistical factors there

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Friday, 15 August 2014 16:39 (eleven years ago)

like, a tour with a well-defined beginning and end point where everything was taped the same way

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Friday, 15 August 2014 16:40 (eleven years ago)

it is a whole lotta spring 90. i don't mind hearing a stray show from that period or a highlights disc, but wow, I don't need all of it.

tylerw, Friday, 15 August 2014 16:55 (eleven years ago)


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