i rate u very highly tsf
― the urinalysis of fire (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 April 2014 17:03 (ten years ago) link
ditto, jl! i like the fast too, it goes w/o saying.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:07 (ten years ago) link
i'm trying to think of my fave 70's new york album. dolls debut is up there. that album is so much fun.
― scott seward, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:08 (ten years ago) link
fuckin' secret treaties dog
― the urinalysis of fire (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 April 2014 17:12 (ten years ago) link
p that or marquee moon for me
― Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 April 2014 17:14 (ten years ago) link
dude, BOC is like a whole 'nother level for me.
― scott seward, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:29 (ten years ago) link
It's okay. I like a few tracks. Elevation is probably the only track I go back to.
― ∞, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:51 (ten years ago) link
Probably worth repeating how much of what people hear and like in that album is Richard Lloyd
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:59 (ten years ago) link
imagine what all that mid-period Matthew Sweet would sound like without him. or don't.
― rip van wanko, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link
all that sweet would be girlfriend and altered beast for me but i thought i was in it for the quine.
― scott seward, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link
yeah quine rulz
― waterbabies (waterface), Monday, 7 April 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link
i do feel like most NYC stuff is overrated. proto-punk and especially post-punk in general are overrated
― marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:32 (ten years ago) link
and i don't care for television
― marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:33 (ten years ago) link
it's like I don't even know you guys
― sleeve, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:34 (ten years ago) link
Well sleeve, let me confirm that I am 100% pro-Television-is-not-overrated, but that is probably no news to you.
― grandavis, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:38 (ten years ago) link
few things confused me as much as a young music enthusiast as robert quine (related to my parents' friend j@ne quine? -- a: y), richard hell, richard lloyd, lloyd cole, the verlaines, tom verlaine, etc
i agree that this album is somewhat overrated but the song "marquee moon" is notalso agree that someone should write a giant book about music in ohio
― Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Monday, 7 April 2014 18:40 (ten years ago) link
also i think 'entertainment!' is also overrated, i tried to listen to it a couple times but i sold it back to the record store
― marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:41 (ten years ago) link
Your face is overrated.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 7 April 2014 18:41 (ten years ago) link
i'd support a book about the ohio music scene, that'd be awesome
your city is overratted
overrated, even
― marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:42 (ten years ago) link
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― tylerw, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:42 (ten years ago) link
this album is fucking awesome and you ppl are fucking sad, nobody ever wrote a book about ohio cuz who wants to read about david thomas losing his temper w/ a white castle cashier
― balls, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link
the eternally unrestful soul of james a. rhodes is going to haunt you in your sleep for saying that
― Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Monday, 7 April 2014 18:56 (ten years ago) link
who wants to read about david thomas losing his temper w/ a white castle cashiergoddamn this book sounds amazing
― tylerw, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link
just listening to marquee moon now, this singer sucks. reminds me of the violent femmes.
― marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link
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― waterbabies (waterface), Monday, 7 April 2014 19:02 (ten years ago) link
i've listened to this album 400 million times more than marquee moon
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― scott seward, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:06 (ten years ago) link
i've listened to this album 500 million more times than the numbers band album
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― scott seward, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:07 (ten years ago) link
i always forget that my 3rd favorite band of all time FELT was always compared to television so maybe i like television more than i think. they got their name from television even. apparently.
― scott seward, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:10 (ten years ago) link
Numbers Band is great. I have no need to defend Television, as there will always be a million people who prefer Grateful Dead or Allman Bros. or whatever to them, doesn't matter. But regarding upthread, Live at the Old Waldorf is nice, but even better sounding is a 1982 solo show that includes a great version of "Marquee Moon" included in The Miller's Tale compilation. Totally recommended.
I just read the Cheetah Chrome book last month, which has a fair amount on the super early Ohio scene, and a few months before that, Richard Hell's book. I can never read too much about the NYC 70s scene. It's hard to say it's overrated when your average non-geek music fan still have no clue who the Voidoids are, and sometimes even Television. Looking forward to seeing them for the first time in 22 or more years in a few weeks!
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:11 (ten years ago) link
I definitely want to read all about Crocus Behemoth's early rants, whether in a White Castle or practice space.
― grandavis, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:11 (ten years ago) link
my bff's mom dated a guy in the numbers band!!
― Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Monday, 7 April 2014 19:57 (ten years ago) link
yeah just between early Devo and Ubu anecdotes you've got an awesome book already.
― the urinalysis of fire (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 April 2014 20:26 (ten years ago) link
the only time i saw dave thomas he marched the whole band offstage mid-set to yell at them.then he got mad at the crowd and forbid any merch to be sold.
― Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 April 2014 20:28 (ten years ago) link
haha, yeah, the guy is a hoot! definitely has stage presence though.
― tylerw, Monday, 7 April 2014 20:30 (ten years ago) link
haha pardon this digression but: i thought you were talking about dave thomas from wendy's, and james a rhodes (former repub governor and all around jerkwad) was an early stockholder in wendy's iirc and that's why i was NEVER allowed to eat there as a kid
this picture features a pin with a suitcase featuring the initials JAR, which was meant to imply "go away JAR" but again, the joke is kind of lost to the mist of time
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6ab8dtCxJ1rzge1ho1_1280.jpg
― Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Monday, 7 April 2014 20:32 (ten years ago) link
i saw the numbers band a month or two ago. they're welcome back to nyc any time. i bet chrissie hynde must've learned her harmonica chops off that guy. the kidney brother who plays harmonica. he was pretty fierce.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 7 April 2014 20:36 (ten years ago) link
i can't believe all the shitty music there is in the world and we're pitting awesome nyc mid/late 70s music against awesome mid/late 70s ohio music
come on ppl. let's uplift rock n roll. each one teach one.
― Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 April 2014 20:40 (ten years ago) link
yeah we could just listen to this amazing tape of television in Cleveland, 1975https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNxQM8Sl1Kgrocket from the tombs opened https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZLfG_KDLA
― tylerw, Monday, 7 April 2014 20:50 (ten years ago) link
damn that woulda been a show
― Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 April 2014 21:07 (ten years ago) link
if it was a shared dressing room maybe one of the biggest bunch of weirdos in one room ever
from what i've read about it, i think it was really awkward. RFTT might've broken up right after this?
― tylerw, Monday, 7 April 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link
i'd lay money on really awkward
― Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 April 2014 21:16 (ten years ago) link
but yeah, both of those sets have to be some of the better rock n roll made in the 70s. cleveland and NYC unite!
― tylerw, Monday, 7 April 2014 21:18 (ten years ago) link
when we work together great things can happen!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbVGX4r5gmE
― Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 April 2014 21:23 (ten years ago) link
LL that anti-JAR button is now a deliciously vexing non sequitur! I love it!
Life is v confusing with the avant-garage Dave Thomas and the burgermeister Dave Thomas and the SCTV Dave Thomas and god knows how many other dave thomases out there making art and running companies and murdering ppl & c & c
― the urinalysis of fire (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 April 2014 22:09 (ten years ago) link
Last time I heard this was when I was browsing at the Notting Hill Book exchange, then the guy started playing a computer game halfway through so you had all of these sound effects crossed w/Guiding Light I think. Like he ws passing a judgment on it.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 April 2014 22:16 (ten years ago) link
I need to get that Mars record.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 April 2014 22:18 (ten years ago) link
I had a dream this was playing in a store recently
― très hip (Treeship), Monday, 7 April 2014 22:58 (ten years ago) link