All NYC stuff is overrated except Television IMO
― the urinalysis of fire (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 April 2014 16:41 (ten years ago) link
And Joseph Cornell
otm
― tylerw, Monday, 7 April 2014 16:45 (ten years ago) link
Mars rules, not overrated.
― grandavis, Monday, 7 April 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link
I never liked most 70s NYC stuff either
― ביטקוין (Hurting 2), Monday, 7 April 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link
i'm more of a miki & paul zone fan. the fast. man 2 man. love those guys.
― scott seward, Monday, 7 April 2014 16:54 (ten years ago) link
actually the first talking heads album is hella underrated, that is a guitar heaven record. I loooove the way that thing is recorded. But that's it! That, and this birdcage here.
― the urinalysis of fire (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 April 2014 16:54 (ten years ago) link
i dunno, the first ramones records, marquee moon/adventure, talking heads, the first hell/voidoids LP, horses ... maybe they're all old news, but that's a pretty amazing set of records from one scene imo.
― tylerw, Monday, 7 April 2014 16:55 (ten years ago) link
ugh the talking heads
― waterbabies (waterface), Monday, 7 April 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link
i think burning down the house is a work of genius. i love that song. other than that i like the hits okay. they are fun to sing along to in the car when i hear them on the radio.
― scott seward, Monday, 7 April 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link
add in first suicide record....no new york....horses...1st dolls record....being bored with reading about something isn't really a mark against the actual quality of the record
― Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 April 2014 16:57 (ten years ago) link
i love every last morsel of that ny stuff. that's my stuff. i am overrated.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 7 April 2014 16:59 (ten years ago) link
i rate u very highly tsf
― the urinalysis of fire (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 April 2014 17:03 (ten years ago) link
ditto, jl! i like the fast too, it goes w/o saying.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:07 (ten years ago) link
i'm trying to think of my fave 70's new york album. dolls debut is up there. that album is so much fun.
― scott seward, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:08 (ten years ago) link
fuckin' secret treaties dog
― the urinalysis of fire (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 April 2014 17:12 (ten years ago) link
p that or marquee moon for me
― Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 April 2014 17:14 (ten years ago) link
dude, BOC is like a whole 'nother level for me.
― scott seward, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:29 (ten years ago) link
It's okay. I like a few tracks. Elevation is probably the only track I go back to.
― ∞, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:51 (ten years ago) link
Probably worth repeating how much of what people hear and like in that album is Richard Lloyd
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:59 (ten years ago) link
imagine what all that mid-period Matthew Sweet would sound like without him. or don't.
― rip van wanko, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link
all that sweet would be girlfriend and altered beast for me but i thought i was in it for the quine.
― scott seward, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link
yeah quine rulz
― waterbabies (waterface), Monday, 7 April 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link
i do feel like most NYC stuff is overrated. proto-punk and especially post-punk in general are overrated
― marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:32 (ten years ago) link
and i don't care for television
― marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:33 (ten years ago) link
it's like I don't even know you guys
― sleeve, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:34 (ten years ago) link
Well sleeve, let me confirm that I am 100% pro-Television-is-not-overrated, but that is probably no news to you.
― grandavis, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:38 (ten years ago) link
few things confused me as much as a young music enthusiast as robert quine (related to my parents' friend j@ne quine? -- a: y), richard hell, richard lloyd, lloyd cole, the verlaines, tom verlaine, etc
i agree that this album is somewhat overrated but the song "marquee moon" is notalso agree that someone should write a giant book about music in ohio
― Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Monday, 7 April 2014 18:40 (ten years ago) link
also i think 'entertainment!' is also overrated, i tried to listen to it a couple times but i sold it back to the record store
― marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:41 (ten years ago) link
Your face is overrated.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 7 April 2014 18:41 (ten years ago) link
i'd support a book about the ohio music scene, that'd be awesome
your city is overratted
overrated, even
― marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:42 (ten years ago) link
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― tylerw, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:42 (ten years ago) link
this album is fucking awesome and you ppl are fucking sad, nobody ever wrote a book about ohio cuz who wants to read about david thomas losing his temper w/ a white castle cashier
― balls, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link
the eternally unrestful soul of james a. rhodes is going to haunt you in your sleep for saying that
― Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Monday, 7 April 2014 18:56 (ten years ago) link
who wants to read about david thomas losing his temper w/ a white castle cashiergoddamn this book sounds amazing
― tylerw, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link
just listening to marquee moon now, this singer sucks. reminds me of the violent femmes.
― marcos, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link
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― waterbabies (waterface), Monday, 7 April 2014 19:02 (ten years ago) link
i've listened to this album 400 million times more than marquee moon
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― scott seward, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:06 (ten years ago) link
i've listened to this album 500 million more times than the numbers band album
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― scott seward, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:07 (ten years ago) link
i always forget that my 3rd favorite band of all time FELT was always compared to television so maybe i like television more than i think. they got their name from television even. apparently.
― scott seward, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:10 (ten years ago) link
Numbers Band is great. I have no need to defend Television, as there will always be a million people who prefer Grateful Dead or Allman Bros. or whatever to them, doesn't matter. But regarding upthread, Live at the Old Waldorf is nice, but even better sounding is a 1982 solo show that includes a great version of "Marquee Moon" included in The Miller's Tale compilation. Totally recommended.
I just read the Cheetah Chrome book last month, which has a fair amount on the super early Ohio scene, and a few months before that, Richard Hell's book. I can never read too much about the NYC 70s scene. It's hard to say it's overrated when your average non-geek music fan still have no clue who the Voidoids are, and sometimes even Television. Looking forward to seeing them for the first time in 22 or more years in a few weeks!
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:11 (ten years ago) link
I definitely want to read all about Crocus Behemoth's early rants, whether in a White Castle or practice space.
― grandavis, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:11 (ten years ago) link
my bff's mom dated a guy in the numbers band!!
― Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Monday, 7 April 2014 19:57 (ten years ago) link
yeah just between early Devo and Ubu anecdotes you've got an awesome book already.
― the urinalysis of fire (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 April 2014 20:26 (ten years ago) link
the only time i saw dave thomas he marched the whole band offstage mid-set to yell at them.then he got mad at the crowd and forbid any merch to be sold.
― Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 April 2014 20:28 (ten years ago) link
haha, yeah, the guy is a hoot! definitely has stage presence though.
― tylerw, Monday, 7 April 2014 20:30 (ten years ago) link
haha pardon this digression but: i thought you were talking about dave thomas from wendy's, and james a rhodes (former repub governor and all around jerkwad) was an early stockholder in wendy's iirc and that's why i was NEVER allowed to eat there as a kid
this picture features a pin with a suitcase featuring the initials JAR, which was meant to imply "go away JAR" but again, the joke is kind of lost to the mist of time
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6ab8dtCxJ1rzge1ho1_1280.jpg
― Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Monday, 7 April 2014 20:32 (ten years ago) link
i saw the numbers band a month or two ago. they're welcome back to nyc any time. i bet chrissie hynde must've learned her harmonica chops off that guy. the kidney brother who plays harmonica. he was pretty fierce.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 7 April 2014 20:36 (ten years ago) link