'Marquee Moon' LP is overrated

this is great by the way. 1978. also recorded by eno, funnily enough. my pal ted put it out on vinyl:

http://www.discogs.com/Mars-Live-At-Irving-Plaza/release/3556876

x-post- Heylin's Velvets to Voidoids book does have some details on the Ohio scene(s)

yeah that clinton heylin book has a very meaty section on the Ohio scene. I need to reread that. I haven't since it was new. There needs to be a whole book just on the Ohio stuff though.

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Heylin book is great imo, but yeah we could def use something like Please Kill Me for Cleveland/Akron

has there really not been a proto-punk ohio book? seems like it'd be a pretty fertile subject.
and scott is entitled to his opinion, but man, i really like television.

All NYC stuff is overrated except Television IMO

And Joseph Cornell

otm

Mars rules, not overrated.

I never liked most 70s NYC stuff either

i'm more of a miki & paul zone fan. the fast. man 2 man. love those guys.

actually the first talking heads album is hella underrated, that is a guitar heaven record. I loooove the way that thing is recorded. But that's it! That, and this birdcage here.

i dunno, the first ramones records, marquee moon/adventure, talking heads, the first hell/voidoids LP, horses ... maybe they're all old news, but that's a pretty amazing set of records from one scene imo.

ugh the talking heads

i think burning down the house is a work of genius. i love that song. other than that i like the hits okay. they are fun to sing along to in the car when i hear them on the radio.

add in first suicide record....no new york....horses...1st dolls record....being bored with reading about something isn't really a mark against the actual quality of the record

i love every last morsel of that ny stuff. that's my stuff. i am overrated.

i rate u very highly tsf

ditto, jl! i like the fast too, it goes w/o saying.

i'm trying to think of my fave 70's new york album. dolls debut is up there. that album is so much fun.

fuckin' secret treaties dog

p that or marquee moon for me

dude, BOC is like a whole 'nother level for me.

It's okay. I like a few tracks. Elevation is probably the only track I go back to.

Probably worth repeating how much of what people hear and like in that album is Richard Lloyd

imagine what all that mid-period Matthew Sweet would sound like without him. or don't.

all that sweet would be girlfriend and altered beast for me but i thought i was in it for the quine.

yeah quine rulz

i do feel like most NYC stuff is overrated. proto-punk and especially post-punk in general are overrated

and i don't care for television

it's like I don't even know you guys

Well sleeve, let me confirm that I am 100% pro-Television-is-not-overrated, but that is probably no news to you.

few things confused me as much as a young music enthusiast as robert quine (related to my parents' friend j@ne quine? -- a: y), richard hell, richard lloyd, lloyd cole, the verlaines, tom verlaine, etc

i agree that this album is somewhat overrated but the song "marquee moon" is not
also agree that someone should write a giant book about music in ohio

also i think 'entertainment!' is also overrated, i tried to listen to it a couple times but i sold it back to the record store

Your face is overrated.

i'd support a book about the ohio music scene, that'd be awesome

your city is overratted

overrated, even

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this album is fucking awesome and you ppl are fucking sad, nobody ever wrote a book about ohio cuz who wants to read about david thomas losing his temper w/ a white castle cashier

the eternally unrestful soul of james a. rhodes is going to haunt you in your sleep for saying that

who wants to read about david thomas losing his temper w/ a white castle cashier
goddamn this book sounds amazing

just listening to marquee moon now, this singer sucks. reminds me of the violent femmes.

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i've listened to this album 400 million times more than marquee moon

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i've listened to this album 500 million more times than the numbers band album

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i always forget that my 3rd favorite band of all time FELT was always compared to television so maybe i like television more than i think. they got their name from television even. apparently.

Numbers Band is great. I have no need to defend Television, as there will always be a million people who prefer Grateful Dead or Allman Bros. or whatever to them, doesn't matter. But regarding upthread, Live at the Old Waldorf is nice, but even better sounding is a 1982 solo show that includes a great version of "Marquee Moon" included in The Miller's Tale compilation. Totally recommended.

I just read the Cheetah Chrome book last month, which has a fair amount on the super early Ohio scene, and a few months before that, Richard Hell's book. I can never read too much about the NYC 70s scene. It's hard to say it's overrated when your average non-geek music fan still have no clue who the Voidoids are, and sometimes even Television. Looking forward to seeing them for the first time in 22 or more years in a few weeks!

I definitely want to read all about Crocus Behemoth's early rants, whether in a White Castle or practice space.