Polled At Last: STEELY DAN - ILM Artist poll #50

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Was hoping for "Rikki" or "Dr. Wu" at #1. No luck. Maybe it'll even be one I've never heard.

clemenza, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:13 (ten years ago) link

i kind of seriously doubt "dr. wu"'s top 5 placement has anything to do with a minutemen cover

surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:15 (ten years ago) link

yeah, Wu was considered a highlight way back in the seventies (Xgau called it their greatest song). the minutemen version is minor.

g simmel, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:18 (ten years ago) link

dr. wu is perfect. will be miffed if peg gets #1

J. Sam, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:19 (ten years ago) link

You guys don't know Cubans and Biscayne Bay.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:20 (ten years ago) link

i voted for all of the top 3 and adore them all and would be happy to see any of them at #1.

some dude, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:21 (ten years ago) link

I think everybody here will be miffed if one or the other of these gets #1. I'm looking at you, Deacon Blues.

xp: whoops. well, I guess not.

how's life, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:21 (ten years ago) link

(xposts) As I mentioned on the other thread, Marcus also singled out the "all night long" lyric as one of the greatest ever written--it's always been an acclaimed song.

clemenza, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:22 (ten years ago) link

yeah, remember the Marcus line. Deacon Blues is the only one of the remaining three that deserves such a high placement

g simmel, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:24 (ten years ago) link

now that it's reasonably clear "chain lightning" is not gonna make a surprise top 10 appearance, this is as good a time as any to post:

donald fagen talks about "chain lightning":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_KCcxFKTuk

there are a few of these "fagen talks about" youtubes, including one about one of the tracks still to come, and they're all great chord-porn, but this is my fave. dude would make a great music teacher.

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:25 (ten years ago) link

Doctor Wu is my favorite song of all time, by SD or anyone

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:27 (ten years ago) link

I'm listening to "Deacon Blues" now. Sorry--all I can think of is the Bangs line, "tasty licks and all that Traffic twaddle."

clemenza, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:27 (ten years ago) link

fuck Bangs

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:30 (ten years ago) link

I hated it at fist but once the lyrics kicked in I was sold for life.

Xgau: "not only is "Deacon Blues" one of their strongest songs ever, it's also one of their warmest."

President Keyes: "fuck Bangs"

g simmel, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:32 (ten years ago) link

*first

g simmel, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:33 (ten years ago) link

For what it's worth, he wasn't referring to "Deacon Blues"--I am. (Fuck clemenza!) Not sure what he what he was talking about.

clemenza, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:33 (ten years ago) link

7 number ones is what really grabbed me about "Doctor Wu."

Bee OK, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:35 (ten years ago) link

Doctor Jing Nuan Wu (1933-2002), an acupuncturist and artist based in Washington DC. Emigrated from China to the US at a young age and graduated from Harvard to become a Wall Street venture capitalist, finally setting up a Taoist clinic in Washington in 1973. Apparently helped one of the band members to overcome drug addiction in the mid-70s, hence the lyrical tribute.

Bee OK, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:37 (ten years ago) link

(I love Lester Bangs of course but am at peak SD defense mode now sry)

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:37 (ten years ago) link

There's an EMP project to be written about Cuban-American/Nixon imagery in the Dan.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:39 (ten years ago) link

"cuban-american imagery, nixon's shadow and traffic twaddle: steely dan in the '70s."

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:40 (ten years ago) link

I'm a little defensive too right now--feeling a generational split in these results (old people = first four LPs/ younger = next three), but maybe I'm wrong.

clemenza, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:41 (ten years ago) link

Nope. Love the first two, adore Gaucho and Katy Lied.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:44 (ten years ago) link

guys let's not spoil this now

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:44 (ten years ago) link

age ain't nothin but a hashtag

J. Sam, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:47 (ten years ago) link

"that stupid song" was Dylan's "Visions of Johanna" -- supposedly, it was played on the PA before every 70s Dan show.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:47 (ten years ago) link

old people = first four LPs/ younger = next three

i don't agree with this at all, but if i did, i'm not sure which segment i'd give album number five to.

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link

Catching up late here - I was one of the number ones for "Babylon Sisters," which I've loved for like five years, but the song didn't turn mythic for me 'til I actually moved out to L.A. And I wish I still had a car every damn time I hear it. Aja and Gaucho really start to open up when you're actually on the West Coast, especially if you're a Northeast transplant like me. "Dr. Wu" another one I considered for #1, along with the song I'm pretty sure will take the top spot.

thewufs, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-bcq7GqdtriE/U0HlGb_kBqI/AAAAAAAAA4U/FrxOl8If0e4/w640-h320-no/Peg.jpg

3. Peg
B-side: "I Got the News"
From: Aja
Single Released: November 1977
1,314 Points, 57 Votes, 3 Number Ones

Bee OK, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link

I've got classic albums: aja playing right now. just got to the michael mcdonald vox part on Peg as this was posted.

Belgian Flanders Albums Chart (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:49 (ten years ago) link

love, love, love "Dr. Wu"......two of these next three, otoh, are just not top 10 Dan tracks for me. But what the hell--they're pretty great songs.

xpost: ok, gonna be VERY surprised if I have the wrong #1 now....

Swag Heathen (theStalePrince), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:51 (ten years ago) link

Aja and Gaucho really start to open up when you're actually on the West Coast

christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:51 (ten years ago) link

^^otm

christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:52 (ten years ago) link

yes

sleeve, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:52 (ten years ago) link

kinda glad it's not #1 but i do love 'peg' so much, the way the solo just careens in, maybe my fave backing vocals in any song, at a minimum my fave michael mcdonald vocals. probably one of the earliest songs i can remember being a hit, hearing on the radio, hard to describe the glee i felt at 14 putting on 3 feet high and rising and having that sample pop up.

balls, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:52 (ten years ago) link

There's gotta be some really dark subtext to "Peg" ("It will come back to you"?) but I still haven't grokked what it is.

thewufs, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link

best part of out wedding reception was leading everyone in a crazy Peg dance, like fifty people of every generation losing it in the dance floor in a sunset blvd hotel

christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link

57 votes

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link

xpost i just put it on a playlist i'm working on for a buddy's wedding, fingers crossed for the same reaction

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link

lol i almost posted that i loved how much it was a fairly straightforward sunny pop uptempo love song, like a carter era 'windy' or 'along comes mary', but decided against it as i'm sure pop up ilx is gonna reveal it's about some pornographer that becker knew from having the same dealer.

balls, Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:55 (ten years ago) link

my only regret is not closing the whole reception down w/Babylon sisters

christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link

ITS YOUR FAVORITE FOREIGN MOVIE!

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link

I am certainly one of the older voters here and I don't know, I maybe don't love Gaucho but I have lots of love for Royal Scam and Aja.

Sandy, Monday, 7 April 2014 00:00 (ten years ago) link

so...were any major critics praising Gaucho in '80?

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 April 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link

"Peg" I'm neutral on, "Eye Know" is one of my favourite songs ever.

Yeah, forget my age theory--I remembered you saying your #1 was from one of the later three. (The Royal Scam sort of bridges the first four to what came later for me--a little of what I loved before with "Sign in Stranger," a lot of what lost me.)

clemenza, Monday, 7 April 2014 00:03 (ten years ago) link

Oh jesus, there it is. I always thought there was some sort of porno angle, too. Still could be.

thewufs, Monday, 7 April 2014 00:05 (ten years ago) link

Anyway, I'm turning into one of those downer poll-guys...I'm gonna shut up and let you enjoy the last two.

clemenza, Monday, 7 April 2014 00:06 (ten years ago) link

Gaucho placed at #12 Pazz & Jop, so I would assume so (xxxp).

thewufs, Monday, 7 April 2014 00:07 (ten years ago) link

4 1/2 star review in RS in early '81, though I've never heard of the critic: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/gaucho-19810205

thewufs, Monday, 7 April 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link


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